Need suggestions for my bro

[jumpmaster82]

ok bros one of my friends is very prone to gyno and tends to retain a massive amount of water on almost everything. He's done afew cycles, mainly test deca dbol. He wants to do a cycle to cut up get vascular and put on lean dry muscle. He wants to take shit with the least chance of aromatising. I was Gona suggest eq winstrol and maybe anavar. What do yall think? Any suggestions?

 

[chris69]

ok bros one of my friends is very prone to gyno and tends to retain a massive amount of water on almost everything. He's done afew cycles, mainly test deca dbol. He wants to do a cycle to cut up get vascular and put on lean dry muscle. He wants to take shit with the least chance of aromatising. I was Gona suggest eq winstrol and maybe anavar. What do yall think? Any suggestions?

TREN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[needtogetarmy]

tren

 

[jumpmaster82]

Just tren alone? Tren is where I can't really give him advice cuz I have no experience with it. What should he stack it with

 

[Nelson Montana]

Although unlikeley, it's possible for tren to cause gyno. Impossible for winee, varr and primmo. I'd also recommened some DEFINITION to stay dry.

 

[Acela]

i am holding zero water with my current cycle of testE/MasteronE

 

[702daswoll1]

I would have him run a high/moderate dose of EQ with a very low test dose also.

 

[halfcenturian]

i am holding zero water with my current cycle of testE/MasteronE

You gonna do up the Tren on the back 9, Bro? Come on...
It's perfect for the last 4 weeks of your cycle.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Although unlikeley, it's possible for tren to cause gyno. Impossible for winee, varr and primmo. I'd also recommened some DEFINITION to stay dry.

Not unlikely at all! It's VERY possible to get (progesterone-induced) gyno from tren, speaking from experience.

I would definitely stick with Winny, var and especially primo

 

[[email protected]]

Testosterone enathate and dbol! No deca, unless there is pain in joints or if he's planning on becoming a part-time monk! LOL

 

[njmuscleguy]

Dude, the guy is very gyno-prone and he tends to blow up... why on earth would he consider test and d-bol??

 

[Acela]

You gonna do up the Tren on the back 9, Bro? Come on...
It's perfect for the last 4 weeks of your cycle.

not sure....honestly i'm leaning towards "no" because i'm getting gains off of the current stack/training/diet etc.

save it for the next cycle??????

 

[[email protected]]

Dude, the guy is very gynecomastia-prone and he tends to blow up... why on earth would he consider test and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ??

I should have elaborated a bit before making that statement. I should have written take the test and dbol at a low dosage! Along with some anti-e and some diuretic to get rid of the excess water. You see some guys over do the shots at two times a week and others at once a week. Instead of taking 20mg. of dbol, they take 40mg. or more and end up with gyno.!!!!!
I take 20mg. of dbol or tbol ed, test or deca at 750ml. once a month and I make
pretty good gains while on a cycle. I'm currently at 235lb. 6'0" tall which is damn good!

 

[theblondebomber]

Get off the d-bol.enanthate is OK up to 500mg a week.tren and EQ.

 

[khemix]

Any tren ester.
I've heard you don't hold much water on NPP. (anyone know anything regarding this)
Anavar
Turinabol
Masteron
Equipoise
Primo
Winstrol

If he's wanting a good cutter, heres my suggestion:

Tbol, 50mg/ed, 1-5wks
EQ, 600-800mg/wk, 1-12wks
Tren Acet, 75mg/eod, 1-8wks
Winstrol, 50mg/ed, 8-12wks.

I would suggest including a low dose of test (maybe prop), like 200mg/wk, as its always best to use test as a base. Tren sometimes causes problems with libido and the test will help ward that off. The tren will also help keep most all water off and really bring out the vascularity. The turinabol is excellent because its all the pros of dbol (size & strength) without the bloat and blood pressure problems.

Since he is so prone to holding water, then I suggest he have AI's on hand, just in case. Some letrozole should do him fine as a JIC.

Or maybe:

Anavar, 60mg/ed, 1-6wks
EQ, 600-800mg/wk, 1-12wks
Masteron, 100mg/eod, 1-8wks
Winstrol, 50mg/ed, 9-12wks

It all depends how hardcore he wants to go.

Chris

 

[needtogetaas]

ok bros one of my friends is very prone to gynecomastia and tends to retain a massive amount of water on almost everything. He's done afew cycles, mainly test Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . He wants to do a cycle to cut up get vascular and put on lean dry muscle. He wants to take shit with the least chance of aromatising. I was Gona suggest Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - winstrol and maybe anavar. What do yall think? Any suggestions?

primo bro. 600-1000mg ew 15 weeks.

 

[needtogetaas]

Any trenbolone ester.
I've heard you don't hold much water on NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - . (anyone know anything regarding this)
Anavar
Turinabol
Masteron
Equipoise
Primobolan - methenolone -
Winstrol

If he's wanting a good cutter, heres my suggestion:

Turanabol, 50mg/ed, 1-5wks
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , 600-800mg/wk, 1-12wks
Tren Acet, 75mg/eod, 1-8wks
Winstrol, 50mg/ed, 8-12wks.

I would suggest including a low dose of test (maybe testosterone propionate), like 200mg/wk, as its always best to use test as a base. Tren sometimes causes problems with libido and the test will help ward that off. The trenbolone will also help keep most all water off and really bring out the vascularity. The turinabol is excellent because its all the pros of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - (size & strength) without the bloat and blood pressure problems.

Since he is so prone to holding water, then I suggest he have aromatase inhibitor's on hand, just in case. Some letrozole should do him fine as a JIC.

Or maybe:

Anavar, 60mg/ed, 1-6wks
EQ, 600-800mg/wk, 1-12wks
Masteron, 100mg/eod, 1-8wks
Winstrol, 50mg/ed, 9-12wks

It all depends how hardcore he wants to go.

Chris

I like eq at least 14 weeks but good advice bro.

 

[khemix]

I like Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - at least 14 weeks but good advice bro.

Yea, you're probably right. EQ takes forever to hit you and the gains really start to come around week 6-8, right?

 

[needtogetaas]

Yea, you're probably right. Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - takes forever to hit you and the gains really start to come around week 6-8, right?

Yes.

 

[eddymerckx]

he may be able to run a low dose of test w/.50 e/d of proviron

below is borrowed from another site

Proviron has four distinct uses in the world of bodybuilding. The first being the result of its structure. It is 5-alpha reduced and not capable of forming estrogen, yet it nonetheless has a much higher affinity for the aromatase enzyme (which converts testosterone to estrogen) than testosterone does. That means in administering it with testosterone or another aromatizable compound, it prevents estrogen build-up because it binds to the aromatase enzyme very strongly, thereby preventing these steroids from interacting with it and forming estrogen. So Mesterolone use has the extreme benefit of reducing estrogenic side-effects and water retention noted with other steroids, and as such still help to provide mostly lean gains. Its also been suggested that it may actually downgrade the actual estrogen receptor making it doubly effective at reducing circulating estrogen levels.

The second use is in enhancing the potency of testosterone. Testosterone in the body at normal physiological levels is mostly inactive. As much as 97 or 98 percent of testosterone in that amount is bound to sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin, two proteins. In such a form testosterone is mostly inactive. But as with the aromatase enzyme, DHT has a higher affinity for these proteins than testosterone does, so when administered simultaneously the mesterolone will attach to the SHBG and albumin, leaving larger amounts of free testosterone to mediate anabolic activities such as protein synthesis. Another way in which it helps to increase gains. Its also another part of the equation that makes it ineffective on its own, as binding to these proteins too, would render it a non-issue at the androgen receptor.

Thirdly, mesterolone is added in pre-contest phases to increase a distinct hardness and muscle density. Probably due to its reduction in circulating estrogen, perhaps due to the downregulating of the estrogen receptor in muscle tissue, it decreases the total water build-up of the body giving its user a much leaner look, and a visual effect of possessing "harder" muscles with more cuts and striations. Proviron is often used as a last-minute secret by a lot of bodybuilders and both actors and models have used it time and again to deliver top shape day in day out, when needed. Like the other methylated DHT compound, drostanolone, mesterolone is particularly potent in achieving this feat.

 

[Acela]

You gonna do up the trenbolone on the back 9, Bro? Come on...
It's perfect for the last 4 weeks of your cycle.

too late now....I have 3 weeks left ***sniffle, sniffle***

in the spring definately. I want to be completely prepared with ancillaries (which i couldn't afford everyhtring right now) so i'm thinking for May 1st the following:

TestP 100 mg EOD weeks 1-5
TestE 500 mg EW weeks 1-12
TrenA 75 mg EOD weeks 1-5
Mastaplex 200 (50 mgs mastpr.op/150 mgs mastE) 400 mg EW 1-12

I'm not gyno prone at all but i was thinking femera on hand and dostinex on hand just in case

p'c't is my regime of H'Cg, clomid, derma-sustain & Amp02

definately looking forward to it!