need some help on sus

[coopa2011]

Hey just need some advice on sustanon 250 i dont want people telling me i dont know enough or i shouldnt being doing it because we all start somewhere and we learn as we go along, so i only want advice !
3 months ago i done my first cycle of sustanon 250 at 2ml a week for 10 weeks i gained a good 10kgs after i finished the cycle i lost 4 kgs over a few weeks obviously because i didnt do pct and i was getting a bit slack at the gym, i was told i didnt need pct for my first cycle, now iv started my 2nd cycle of 10 weeks and i am at week 4 of 2ml a week what pct is best the guy i get my sustanon from can get me 3 weeks worth of nolvadex ( 1 tablet a day for 3 weeks) i this correct or do i need something else? Please help no stupid comments!

 

[rubcs]

Hey, man, I´m not a roids expert, but you only have to read some to know that No PCT is shit. In any cycle, no matter if that´s the first one, you need to do it.

You´ll need HCG also. And Nolvadex during the cycle since the second week and two weeks after the cycle 10mg ed. Clomid would be ok as well.

And the one who said you didn´t need any PCT is a ´fucking master´.

 

[RADAR]

and if you loose these gain after PCT ,then you have no business doing steroids, because PCT is not the end of the cycle.

 

[markh7]

PCT is a must. Your hormones will be all over the place without it. And you need to keep your food intake high to maintain what you have gained off you sust and pct. I always use nolvadex and clomid for pct. I have never used Hcg. I run my pct like this:

Nolva: Days 1-3 60mg, days 4-14 40mg, days 15-30 20mg

Clomid: Days 1-3 150mg, days 4-7 100mg, days 8-21 50mg

You may not need as high a dose because I use more gear than you. The clomid will act quite similar to Hcg, it stimulates the leydig cells in the testes to start producing testosterone. The nolvadex will block estrogen receptors while your test comes back to normal. This protocol always works great for me! Most important, keep your protein/food intake high. You are only as big as how much you eat

 

[coopa2011]

Ok Thanks for the info everyone, very appreciated

 

[stevesmi]

how old are you? what are your stats?

you need to do more research before you do a cycle, not during, and not after... you don't just run cycles and learn as you go along.

hcg, HMG and low dose clomid is how I do a PCT

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

we need stat's bro... or all or this is useless.... Stats will affect PCT dosages

 

[mryar]

You may not need as high a dose because I use more gear than you. The clomid will act quite similar to Hcg, it stimulates the leydig cells in the testes to start producing testosterone. The nolvadex will block estrogen receptors while your test comes back to normal. This protocol always works great for me! Most important, keep your protein/food intake high. You are only as big as how much you eat

From wikipedia

Clomiphene acts by inhibiting the action of estrogen on the pituitary. Zuclomifene, the more active isomer, binds to estrogen receptors and stays bound for long periods of time. This prevents normal receptor recycling and causes an effective reduction in hypothalamic estrogen receptor number. As a result, the body perceives a low level of estrogen, similar to day 22 in the previous cycle. Since estrogen can no longer effectively exert negative feedback on the hypothalamus, GnRH secretion becomes more pulsatile, which results in increased pituitary gonadotropin (FSH, LH) release. Increased FSH level causes growth of more ovarian follicles, and subsequently rupture of follicles resulting in ovulation.

This states how it operates in a female. I assume the action in males is the same? IE hypothalamus doesn't see much estrogen so GnRH is released, which tells the pituitary to release more LH, is that correct?

 

[markh7]

From wikipedia


This states how it operates in a female. I assume the action in males is the same? IE hypothalamus doesn't see much estrogen so GnRH is released, which tells the pituitary to release more LH, is that correct?

Yup the LH basically makes your balls produce test, I prob should have included that information along with what I said...