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Need some bike advise

USABlackBear

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Need some bike advice

Been a harley rider for the past 30 odd years and, I can't believe I'm saying this, I'm thinking about getting me one of those superbikes. I know nothing about any of them. What's hot? Is that Suzuki 1300cc a nice ride? Any better than others as far as make and model? Gotta be quick. Thanks for any info you have.
 
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DO SOME RESEARCH ON A GSXR-1000. YOU WILL FIND THAT IT IS THE BEST BIKE ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. THAT BIKE IS F*N BAD ASS!!! I HAVE A FEW FRIENDS WHO HAVE OWNED THE HAYABUSA AND THE GSXR 1000, ALL OF THEM LIKE THE 1000 BETTER.

KAYNE
 
Yamaha R1.

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KAYNE said:
DO SOME RESEARCH ON A GSXR-1000. YOU WILL FIND THAT IT IS THE BEST BIKE ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. THAT BIKE IS F*N BAD ASS!!! I HAVE A FEW FRIENDS WHO HAVE OWNED THE HAYABUSA AND THE GSXR 1000, ALL OF THEM LIKE THE 1000 BETTER.

KAYNE

Who makes it ?
 
USABlackBear said:
Been a harley rider for the past 30 odd years and, I can't believe I'm saying this, I'm thinking about getting me one of those superbikes. I know nothing about any of them. What's hot? Is that Suzuki 1300cc a nice ride? Any better than others as far as make and model? Gotta be quick. Thanks for any info you have.

Ok, lets get serious here real fast.. Exactly why do you want a sport bike? Do you want one just for zipping down the freeway at mega high speeds, or one for speeding up windy canyon roads.. I have many opinions about many bikes, but I'd like to know why and where you'll be going fast (because that what "crotch rockets do) and I'll give my best opinion..
Include if you would prefer a V-twin, inline 4, inline 3, or a V-4. That will help out alot, because they are all so different as far as powerplant goes.
 
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harmonic said:


Ok, lets get serious here real fast.. Exactly why do you want a sport bike? Do you want one just for zipping down the freeway at mega high speeds, or one for speeding up windy canyon roads.. I have many opinions about many bikes, but I'd like to know why and where you'll be going fast (because that what "crotch rockets do) and I'll give my best opinion..
Include if you would prefer a V-twin, inline 4, inline 3, or a V-4. That will help out alot, because they are all so different as far as powerplant goes.

To tell you the truth, I think I'm having like a mid life crisis or something. I'm hittin 50 and it's doin a fuckin number on me. I'll be zippin down the hiway more than canyon roads, I live in Fl., we don't have canyons, or hills for that matter. V-twins are pretty much all I have ever ridden (w/ the exception of a couple of dirt bikes). I'm gonna test ride a few different ones, I just want to narrow down the list a bit. Hence my request for a few suggestions.
 
HS Lifter* said:
Yamaha R1.

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omg, we have a sane person on board!

yes the Yamaha R1 kicks ass (my bike), but if you're used to the Harley ergonomic, it ain't the most comfy bike around.

The Suzuki 1300cc (Hayabusa) is way more comfy, not as "finicky" and it'll pop 3rd gear wheelies no problem *cough*180hp*cough*. Also it runs 10 seconds stock in the 1/4 mile, and has a top speed of 200mph. Nice bike... but I still love my R1 :)
 
GSXR WOULD BE SUZUKI.

R1 IS A BAD ASS BIKE BUT ALL AROUND THE GSXR1000 IS A BETTER BIKE IMO.

KAYNE
 
There is always a "BEST BIKE" in the sport bike world. However only a handful of riders can ride'em to their limitations.
You most certainly cannot ride a GSX-R 1000 to its limits on the street. You can top it out if the road is long enough, but there is a HELL of alot more to riding a motorcycle.
 
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BUMP, I'm curious as to any rebuttal to my post.

I hear lots of guys talk a good game like their Matt Maladin, but I go to check out there bikes and they have a flat spot down the center line of the rear tire, and the side walls are almost untouched.

Just another foolio faken the funk, instead of just having fun like it was ment to be. Having the biggest and baddest don't mean jack IMO.

On the other hand you'll hear more a mature rider only speak of the purity and the thirll of riding a sport bike and when I check their steed I see the telltale signs of a HARD CORE enthusiast.

Scalloped front tire, blisters on the rear tire that have migrated to the farthest edges of the profile.
 
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I actually agree with minion.... More than likely you don't need the "best bike", you just need one you're comfy on. I will bet my house that you'll more than likely never outride a good 600... No need for the new gixxer 1000, unless you want to do 150mph wheelies:) Same with the 'busa, where you gonna go close to 200 at?? Get what you're comfortable on, and don't worry about passing the limits of the bike, it's probably never gonna happen...

BTW Minion....I wear the edges of my 190/50 bald long before the middle is worn:)
 
Re: Need some bike advice

USABlackBear said:
Been a harley rider for the past 30 odd years and, I can't believe I'm saying this, I'm thinking about getting me one of those superbikes. I know nothing about any of them. What's hot? Is that Suzuki 1300cc a nice ride? Any better than others as far as make and model? Gotta be quick. Thanks for any info you have.

Shit man!! Be very careful. You are wanting to go from a SLOW, oil leaking, rattle traps, leadsled to a high tech peice of equipment. Again be carefull you are going to be shocked!
 
I agree minion. In fact I had my ass kicked recently by a R6 on my R1. I'm a good rider, but this guy kicked some serious ass. People go and trick out their bikes to get more hp, but can't ride worth shit. My friend sold his R1 to get a GSXR-1000 cause it's got a bit more hp .. what a retard.

And yeah 150 kph standup wheelies are fun :D
 
my opinion.........


Since you are coming from a cruiser....


OPen class
I like my bike Honda Cbr 1100XX. Very comfy, especially with 2 people.
In addition to the Suz Eyebusa, See if you like the Kaw Ninja 12-r. I find the seating good, its a narrower bike than mine or the 'busa.

Naked bikes
If you don't want to spend $10K + for a bike you could also look at the Yam FZ1 (a naked form of the R1). You could also look at the Kaw zrx1200 (this looks sort of look like the KZ1000s of the late seventies). Both of these bikes are half faired,offer good seating, range,wind protection,and are under $8000 and less of an insurance risk.

Sportbikes
In addition to the Yam R1 and the Suz 1000...
I like the looks and sound of the Suz TLR 1000. This is a V-twin (All the bikes above are inline 4). Not as fast as R1/GSXR1000-750/929 but has a lot of low end torque. Another you could look at is the Honda 929 and the Kaw 9-R. Both are comfortable. I think the Kaw is really underated. I think Ducati should not be on you list. I like the look and sound but there are more powerful machines out there. While you can get a 996 for $17k+ (not sure about prices around you) the maintance is outragous. A valve adjustment (About every 6K miles ) is $800-1200!
I think Aprilla is a nice ride and you never see many around. Bad thing is you only have select number of dealerships to chose from. Truimph Speed Triple and Daytona are wild sounding machines. You can't really describe the whine/roar of a inline 3.

Runners up

Honda VFR800. V-4 fuel injected bike. Cycle Worlds bike of the year in 98. never rode this one. Rode an older VFR750, liked it.
BMW 1100RS/1150RS/1200RS- big dependable and expensive. will go 120K without "major" problems. I heard jut little stuff goes, voltage regulators,rectifiers etc,. Lots of happy owners.

** Don't get a Buell. You already have a Harley****


I hope I helped. My biggest suggestion is just sit on stuff you like and make another thread and we will help you choose you new "childhood"
 
minion said:
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You most certainly cannot ride a GSX-R 1000 to its limits on the street.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. I KNOW SOME GUYS WHO CAN AND DO RIDE THE 1000 TO ITS STREET LIMITATIONS. I ALSO KNOW SOME GUYS WHO RIDE BALLS TO THE WALL ON A TRACK.

KAYNE
 
YAKUZA , good on ya bro. It is it's own reward. Most guys that are awesome "SAFE" riders are also pretty cool and down to earth guys eager to help. At least from my experiance.
 
KAYNE, we all know a guy who knows a guy, who knows this guy.

What I'm talking about is motorcycles are about having fun. Get what you like, not what a magazine claims is Bike of the Year.

Being "TRENDY" has nothing to do with motorcycling. Leave that to the pimple faced kids with the lil Honda Civic and bumble bee exhaust tips.
 
Re: Need some bike advice

USABlackBear said:
Been a harley rider for the past 30 odd years and, I can't believe I'm saying this, I'm thinking about getting me one of those superbikes. I know nothing about any of them. What's hot? Is that Suzuki 1300cc a nice ride? Any better than others as far as make and model? Gotta be quick. Thanks for any info you have.

A V-twin superbike would be a good transition bike. Suzuki TL1000R, This bike has so much torque it’ll rip your nuts off.
 
Another thing Kayne, I think you and I have major difference's as to what the limitations of a sport bike are. No, stoppies and head stands don't count. Tricks are for kids I always say.

However power slides, and wheelies out of the turn while leand over do count in my book. The only time I'll do a stoppie is if I miss judge my entry speed, not cuz it looks cool. (although in that context it does look pretty cool)

Not trying to be a dick here, but when some one ask about what sport bike they should get I feel its important to stress the purity of it. Not what is "TRENDY" or fashionable.
 
Truth be told there are SOooo many good bikes out there, you almost can't go wrong. Not many guys out there that can ride as hard as Kent Kunitsugu (editor for Sport Rider) so his advice I'll take with a grain of salt.

Its as silly as following a pro body builder's routine. Too many loose variables, sometimes you have to do your own math.
 
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Last one .

I love this bike is sweeeeet as hell...
They raced it on a track against the Ferrari Meduna or whatever the hell its name is, the 250,000$ car and the Augusta ripped up the track...
 
I'm in total agreement with Ingram. The TL1000R would prolly be a great sportbike for you. Its a vtwin and its fast as hell and comfy for a sportbike.

Of course the 2002 Yamaha R1 in silver will be in my garage soon.


##spiderbaby##
 
##spiderbaby## said:

Of course the 2002 Yamaha R1 in silver will be in my garage soon.

I'd congratulate you on your EXCELLENT CHOICE, but dood.. don't get a first year fuel injected R1. Your bike will spend more time getting fixed for recalls than you'll spend riding. I want one bad, but I'll wait till they have the issues sorted out.. kinda like 98 R1 vs 2000 R1. Get yourself a 2001, as they're dirt cheap now.
 
All bike manufacturers have some minor initial qurks, but Yamaha for example has been tunning race cars and mapping out fuel injection systems for a long time now. Lets not forget the obvious, a long history of GP and WSB (world super bike) experiance.

I still stand by what I said previously, get what you like you'll be happier in the long run.
 
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Find you a bike that you're comfortable on first.
Don't worry about the speed, hell all of them will
go fast. The question is how fast do you want to go?

Personally, I would keep the Harley.
 
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