need quality gyno feedback

[jmead]

I do not think that is gyno at all. You have been trying to bulk up for awhile now. I thin k it is simply fatty tissue that can develop with bulking. If you were to lean up, it would probably go away.

If it were estrogenic related, it would be itchy and possibly hurt.

Continue running your AI's just in case it IS estro related.

I'd add in something like bromo or cabergoline as well to see if it helps at all.

IS there fluid that come out of the nipple when you "lightly" squeeze it?

If those do not help it, then I am almost positive it is just fatty tissue. If that is the case, try applying something like Yohimburn to the area and see if that helps. You may need a caloric deficit to see any kind of reduction though.

BMJ

ya im about 14 weeks in now.. i started with dbol jump.. test500 eq 600.. threw in npp around week 8 or so..

im at 253 right now.. ive gained over 30 lbs on this cycle so far.. i know my diets not clean im just eating everything in site.. i keep thinking its fatty tissue but man it just sits right around my nipples.. honestly ever since that superdrol incident i have been able to get slight lactation from one of my nipples.. i think i need to get ahold of some bromo tabs kind of hard for me to find, ive been looking.. b6 did nothing.. this liquid cabergoline is bunk i think..

i used some yohimburn ES before starting this cycle.. did nothing for the nipple fat area.. it almost seems like fluid built up.. when my nipples are hard it flattens out.. and it looks perfect.. its so strange.. my doctor simply said.. "yep you dont have a lump... DDUUUR"

 

[MR. BMJ]

If you have fluid coming out of the nipple, then it is a prolactin problem. Try some bromo or maybe even a different company for the Cabergoline.

The YES will work best when there is a caloric deficit while having some kind of deficit in calories.

I wouldn't worry about this too much right now. Just keep on with your goals and take the Bromo or Cabergoline (and AI). It may not get better until you start to lean up some, especially if it is fatty tissue. You may want to try an aerobic-type chest workout to see if that helps.......something similar to what Quadsweep is doing right now. A lot of people will get this fatty tissue build-up when "bulking," and they think it is estrogenic related.

BMJ

 

[jmead]

only thing that confuses me is, i look leaner than before i started.. the eq has really kept me vascular and striated.. my bf is still around 9-10%.. im getting off in 4-5 weeks.. gonna pct it up hardcore.. recover.. hopefully keep 90% of this weight.. then run a 8 week bulk 8 week cut cycle.. with test p tren anavar winny and maybe some primo..

if i hop on 2.5mg bromo ED.. should i also add in nolva? or just the bromo? if it IS prog/prolactin related.. is bromo going to actually help subside the swollen look.. or just stop the lactation.. its only an issue when i squeeze my nipples.. its almost hard to get anything out.. but it does leak if i work that bad boy right..

im going to continue to bulk.. i want 260 before i get off.. i dont know if you realize but i started this cycle at 212-215.. i dont know how ive gained this much size honestly.. ive ran heavy AIs throughout.. and im hardly retaining any water.. after a night of heavy drinking (ive only had 2 or so since i started 14 weeks ago) i wake up in the morning, take my piss... and only weigh about 3 lbs lighter than normal

sorry i was rambling..

so.. bromo 2.5mg ED.. with current AI schedule.. do i add in nolva? or will the upregulation of the pgr make matters worse?

 

[georgie24]

get a pill splitter cause you will want to start off at 1/2 the dose

i however dont get nausea, dizzzyness that 99% of people report, but i did have gyno and the surgery


best of luck

 

[MR. BMJ]

No, do not take the Nolva, especially since you have progestins in your system. If the swelling is prolactin-induced, then the Bromo will help a lot. However, do not continue to squeeze the nipple, as this will only agitate or trigger gyno symptoms moreso.

Take the Bromo at night, as it might make you sleepy. Also, this is when most prolactin spikes occur. You have to remember as well, that prolactin is also spiked during/after exercise and sex. Do not worry about that though. Take it at night, and get a pill cutter as Georgie suggested if you do not already have one. 2.5mg/night should be a good starting dose....you can always lower or raise it from there. You can get a pill cutter at getpinz.

I really think your problem is from fatty tissue build up though...maybe a little bit of prolactin. I really do not think it is estrogenic at all.

BMJ

 

[jmead]

what do you guys think of IP bromo, is that who your using georgie?

i dont really have another source who carries bromo.. liquid chems are just so sketchy i was on the liquid cabergoline for 5 weeks and the lactation never got better or worse.. just stayed

so i guess im asking, is the ip bromo good to go?

 

[MR. BMJ]

How much of the Caber were you taking?

BMJ

 

[jmead]

around 2.5mg liquid cabergoline E3d.. i cant list the company because everytime i do it gets deleted and they get called scammers.. so im sure you know which liquid chem site it is..i think i need to track down something i know is for REAL so i can actually see if it works.. obviously it wasnt if the lactation was still there

i also did the whole 1000mg b6 ED.. didnt do jack either.. still slight lactation and puffyness

 

[MR. BMJ]

Continue the cabergoline until you get your Bromo or other Caber pills in. Take the Liquid Cabergoline at 1mg/d from here on out. If the newer products/drugs you get in help out, then you will know that this stuff is garbage. However, if no change occurs, then it is still up in the air as to if the original Caber was bunk. That will also show that the problem is exclusively just fatty tissue build-up from bulking/wt-gain.

1,000mg per day of B6 is a lot....normally do not recommend that amount for long periods.

You have to also remember that if somebody squeezes their nipple hard enough, that it will be common for them/everybody to have a little bit come out. Do not get to obsessive on this.

BMJ

 

[Dr. JK]

you need a bromo/nolva stack

gyno surgery been there done that, i still get puffy nips if i slip up and stop taking my aromasin/nolva

NPP i got the puffy nips and bromo/nolva flatten them right out

Same here, had 2 gyno surgeries. 1st one didn't clean out everything, the 2nd one did. Now it's completely cleaned, gland removed..no problems

I had the lump for a while and then it "exploded" into this glandular tissue all around the chest area. I bombarded it with Nolva 80mg/day for a month, nothing..to late..This was 8 years ago when I just started cycling..

All I can tell you try Nolva/Arimidexc whatever you have, but if it's been there for a while chances are surgery is the only way...

Good luck