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First remove the vacuum from the vial, by injecting air into it. when the
vacuum is gone it will no longer pull the plunger down
you can use as much AA as you like. the original kits came with 1ml. most
time when i drew it into a syringe, it was't even that much, which of
course is a problem.
i personally use 2ml because it is easier to measure later when you draw
it into a syring.
after removing the vacuum SLOWLY add AA to the vial. try not to let the
stream of aa hit the powder directly, try to let it run down the glass
into the powder. when the aa is in gently swirl the vial until all is
disolved. do not shake.
a 1ml syringe is marked like this llll10llll20llll30llll40llll50llll60...etc
a 1/2 ml syringe is like this llll5llll10llll15llll20llll25llll30
on a 1ml each line represents 2 units 2,4,6,8,10
on a 1/2 ml each line is 1 unit 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. this makes it easier
to measure.
so if you use 1ml of aa, on a 1ml pin, each line is 20mcg. on a 1/2ml pin
each line is 10mcg
if you use 2ml of aa, on a 1ml pin each line is 10mcg, on a 1/2 ml each
line is 5mcg...the 5line is 25mcg, 10 line is 50mcg...etc
so you see that the easiest way to measure is using 2ml and a 1/2ml pin
your igf is stored in aa solution, nacl is added to dilute at the time of
injection. draw twice as much nacl as igf. so if you draw igf to the ten
line, draw nacl to the 30 line and you are ready to go.
C
vacuum is gone it will no longer pull the plunger down
you can use as much AA as you like. the original kits came with 1ml. most
time when i drew it into a syringe, it was't even that much, which of
course is a problem.
i personally use 2ml because it is easier to measure later when you draw
it into a syring.
after removing the vacuum SLOWLY add AA to the vial. try not to let the
stream of aa hit the powder directly, try to let it run down the glass
into the powder. when the aa is in gently swirl the vial until all is
disolved. do not shake.
a 1ml syringe is marked like this llll10llll20llll30llll40llll50llll60...etc
a 1/2 ml syringe is like this llll5llll10llll15llll20llll25llll30
on a 1ml each line represents 2 units 2,4,6,8,10
on a 1/2 ml each line is 1 unit 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. this makes it easier
to measure.
so if you use 1ml of aa, on a 1ml pin, each line is 20mcg. on a 1/2ml pin
each line is 10mcg
if you use 2ml of aa, on a 1ml pin each line is 10mcg, on a 1/2 ml each
line is 5mcg...the 5line is 25mcg, 10 line is 50mcg...etc
so you see that the easiest way to measure is using 2ml and a 1/2ml pin
your igf is stored in aa solution, nacl is added to dilute at the time of
injection. draw twice as much nacl as igf. so if you draw igf to the ten
line, draw nacl to the 30 line and you are ready to go.
C
njmuscleguy
New member
Guys,
Never used a slin pin before so I have a question about loading it up... since you can't change pins on a slin pin, you'd have to draw and inject with the same pin.... I always change pins on regular syringes to ensure a fresh, sharp pin. Won't poking the slin needle through the stopper dullen such a thin needle? I've read about backloading but that seems like it'd waste alot of the IGF (doesn't really matter with the BAC water)
Thanks!
Never used a slin pin before so I have a question about loading it up... since you can't change pins on a slin pin, you'd have to draw and inject with the same pin.... I always change pins on regular syringes to ensure a fresh, sharp pin. Won't poking the slin needle through the stopper dullen such a thin needle? I've read about backloading but that seems like it'd waste alot of the IGF (doesn't really matter with the BAC water)
Thanks!
Ive been doing lots of research on this matter and had some good advice from this forum and others and believe I have a pretty good system which takes advantage of all aspects:
The question most debated was. '' Is Baceriostatic Water Ok for mixing IGF?'' It is considered it is BUT how long will it hold before it breaks down? 1 day, 3 days, 5, 30 etc.....that causes a problem as most will mix 1000mcgs and at optimum dosage of 100mcgs per day it will last 10 days and if you use less at for eg 50mcgs daily it will last 20 days.
Well I wrote to the suppliers of BAC and here is the unedited reply I received today (14th dec):
============================
Algy,
Generally speaking, the bacteriostatic water will last up to 30 days if stored in a refrigerator between uses. The IGF powder's stability determines when it might break down in the BW. If HCG can last for 30 days then I am guessing that IGF would be good for a conservative 7-10 days.
============================================
However the cautious amongst you (or should I say us as this includes me) will use Acetic Acid to reconstitute and store and BAC to mix and inject at time of hit.
So to make it clear:
1. Take your IGF and slowly inject 1ml Acetic Acid down side of vial and allow to dikute...Do NOT mix, shake etc as it is fragile.
2. Refridgerate
3,You now have 1000mcgs of IGF @ 1ml. so if you are taking 100mcgs a day you will withdraw .1 ml from the vial
4. I like Black Sheeps method and reasoning for pulling the Bacteriostatic water first (see above). So for 100 mcgs IGF Pull up .2ml of BAC and then .1 IGF from vial
5. You now have .3ml of IGF solution. Slowly turn solution upside down a few times to allow to naturally mix/disolve. Some recomend using an airbuble to assist.
6. If you are taking 100mcgs a day it is recommended to split 3x times throughout the day so now life is easy as you have .3 ml
7. You can inject .1ml each time for even dosages or a little more/less each time as you wish.
8. That will be your days dose in 1x slin pin. Next day repeat and use a different site
Hope that helps....and these ideas as stated are not my magical system moreover they were glened from others on this forum and I have simply researched it a little and complied it to help others
Good Luck and hope it helps
Algy
UK
The question most debated was. '' Is Baceriostatic Water Ok for mixing IGF?'' It is considered it is BUT how long will it hold before it breaks down? 1 day, 3 days, 5, 30 etc.....that causes a problem as most will mix 1000mcgs and at optimum dosage of 100mcgs per day it will last 10 days and if you use less at for eg 50mcgs daily it will last 20 days.
Well I wrote to the suppliers of BAC and here is the unedited reply I received today (14th dec):
============================
Algy,
Generally speaking, the bacteriostatic water will last up to 30 days if stored in a refrigerator between uses. The IGF powder's stability determines when it might break down in the BW. If HCG can last for 30 days then I am guessing that IGF would be good for a conservative 7-10 days.
============================================
However the cautious amongst you (or should I say us as this includes me) will use Acetic Acid to reconstitute and store and BAC to mix and inject at time of hit.
So to make it clear:
1. Take your IGF and slowly inject 1ml Acetic Acid down side of vial and allow to dikute...Do NOT mix, shake etc as it is fragile.
2. Refridgerate
3,You now have 1000mcgs of IGF @ 1ml. so if you are taking 100mcgs a day you will withdraw .1 ml from the vial
4. I like Black Sheeps method and reasoning for pulling the Bacteriostatic water first (see above). So for 100 mcgs IGF Pull up .2ml of BAC and then .1 IGF from vial
5. You now have .3ml of IGF solution. Slowly turn solution upside down a few times to allow to naturally mix/disolve. Some recomend using an airbuble to assist.
6. If you are taking 100mcgs a day it is recommended to split 3x times throughout the day so now life is easy as you have .3 ml
7. You can inject .1ml each time for even dosages or a little more/less each time as you wish.
8. That will be your days dose in 1x slin pin. Next day repeat and use a different site
Hope that helps....and these ideas as stated are not my magical system moreover they were glened from others on this forum and I have simply researched it a little and complied it to help others
Good Luck and hope it helps
Algy
UK
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