Need Low-down on Amino Acids/BCAA's/LBA's during Cycle

[ConanX]

Ok guys, I'm back on cycle and I feel like I have my workout, diet, AAS, and support supps down pact. What I always neglected were the use of Amino Acids though. I've been seeing some threads pop up here and there on various forums about how good the results are, but I still don't really know what they do for us, what kinds you should buy, and what the dosing is and when to take it throughout the day, specifically when you are on-cycle.

So, anybody want to help me out and give me a basic tutorial on this stuff? I know the protein shake I use has some leucine and BCAA's in it, but I don't know if it's nearly enough or what they even do.

Thanks good bros.

 

[sonicwaste]

I can't tell you all of the technical data on why the BCAA's are so important.

Essential BCAAs help to build new proteins and are burned by muscles for energy. When you are dieting, BCAAs can become important... Being on a reduced carbohydrate intake your muscles still need fuel. The BCAAs help give your muscles the extra fuel.

When you aren't getting the amino's externally, your body can break down muscle in order to produce the essential aminos. Supplementing the amino's means that your body won't brek down muscle tissure in order to supply your body with the aminos.

And I am sure there are many more reasons why Amino's are important, but that's about all I know.

I use LG sciences BC+EAA. I drink it in between meals and during cardio. For a constant supply all through the day. I think I take about 40g or so of the BC+EAA from LG.

I also supplement an additional 10g glutamine post workout and another 5-10g before bed.

I also use the SPP protein in between because of the superior absorption rate, as well as the fact that it aids in making other proteins I take in more useful... At least that's the way I understand it.

 

[wolfman87]

I can't tell you all of the technical data on why the BCAA's are so important.

Essential BCAAs help to build new proteins and are burned by muscles for energy. When you are dieting, BCAAs can become important... Being on a reduced carbohydrate intake your muscles still need fuel. The BCAAs help give your muscles the extra fuel.

When you aren't getting the amino's externally, your body can break down muscle in order to produce the essential aminos. Supplementing the amino's means that your body won't brek down muscle tissure in order to supply your body with the aminos.

And I am sure there are many more reasons why Amino's are important, but that's about all I know.

I use LG sciences BC+EAA. I drink it in between meals and during cardio. For a constant supply all through the day. I think I take about 40g or so of the BC+EAA from LG.

I also supplement an additional 10g glutamine post workout and another 5-10g before bed.

I also use the SPP protein in between because of the superior absorption rate, as well as the fact that it aids in making other proteins I take in more useful... At least that's the way I understand it.

so do you feel that it's actually worth spending the extra dough, or is it too early to tell?

 

[laidback]

Ive been taking lba's for about a month.Just sipping them between meals.I don't know all the details of them but I know I've cut my protein intake in half and im still gaining weight.

 

[sonicwaste]

so do you feel that it's actually worth spending the extra dough, or is it too early to tell?

At this point it's kinda hard to tell, as I've implemented a few changes in my diet/routine... I am cutting hard right now...

But I doubled my SPP intake and I am taking it throughout the day, as opposed to just post workout and pre bed.

I started on the BC+EAA...

And changed my diet up...

But I can tell you the changes that I've implemented have caused a dramatic effect. I'm cutting and my workouts are remaining intense, I'm increasing LBM, and decreasing body fat... I am down to around 9%.

The most dramatic effect has been the increase in hardness, density, and vascularity.

It's hard to gauge what is causing it... Whether it's the increase in total SPP, increase in SPP frequency, addition of BC+EAA, or the changes to diet... I can't really say... But the combination of changes has caused pretty dramatic differences in a short period of time... I'd venture to say that it is a cumulative effect.

The LG sciences BC+EAA is pretty cheap. I found a place online that has it for $16 per bottle... At my dosage, a bottle lasts 10 days or so.

All the additions do get pricey... But I am on a mission and every small 3% increase adds up to a big difference in my opinion. When your diet and training is in check, it then becomes a game of inches... The small things, the details separate the marginal results from the impressive results.

Maybe future can chime in on this, as he is much more experienced with the BC+EAA protocol. I know he regularly uses it during his contest prep and I think during the off season as well. He turned me on to the stuff, so I think he can shed some light on it.

 

[future]

It's like Kool-Aid for me. I do take into consideration the caloric value so I make adjustments but keeping the aminos helps me stay in that building/anabolic state.

Lipotropic Protein from LG Sciences also is high in leucine and bcaas. If you have to chose just use this. As for as the research etc just use Google. Its there.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Amino acids are actually a pretty good idea to get some protein in between meals but people have neglected them because shakes give so much more in one shot. Still, having those extras is a good idea.

BCAA's are better because they're more concentrated and contain the aminos specific to muscle growth. If you use them consistanly, they really can make a difference.

The soon to be released product "GEAR" will go ten steps further than aminos or Bcaa's. I believe they'll be a staple of every serious bodybuilder. (Those who KNOW about them at least!)

 

[sonicwaste]

It's like Kool-Aid for me. I do take into consideration the caloric value so I make adjustments but keeping the aminos helps me stay in that building/anabolic state.

Lipotropic Protein from LG Sciences also is high in leucine and bcaas. If you have to chose just use this. As for as the research etc just use Google. Its there.

What's the caloric value? I didn't even pay attention, I thought it was 0 cals? It doesn't say on the nutrition facts.

 

[Muscle Overkill]

What the lba's and spp's ? I have a BS in Exercise and have no clue what the hell that is ?

 

[sonicwaste]

What the lba's and spp's ? I have a BS in Exercise and have no clue what the hell that is ?

Lean Beef Aminos and Super Plasma Protein

 

[aquatic_glories]

Some say bcaa s wont realy be that effective while you are getting huge amount of protein. But it works magic while dieting. What do you guys say?? I mostly used them while on cycle and cant really say it made a huge difference. But i am sure they worked above average while takin gBF to very low digits..

 

[sonicwaste]

Some say bcaa s wont realy be that effective while you are getting huge amount of protein. But it works magic while dieting. What do you guys say?? I mostly used them while on cycle and cant really say it made a huge difference. But i am sure they worked above average while takin gBF to very low digits..

Well, I think if you play the game of inches you will reap the benefits... How did you use them?

I think there advantage comes in to play when you are using them in good quantities on an every day basis, like 40g per day.

When you combine other superior forms of protein such as SPP or the new to be released GEAR, then you might really have something...

All I know is that I am cutting hardcore... I increased my SPP intake and frequency along with the aminos and I am getting noticeably bigger, denser, and harder.

 

[ConanX]

Amino acids are actually a pretty good idea to get some protein in between meals but people have neglected them because shakes give so much more in one shot. Still, having those extras is a good idea.

BCAA's are better because they're more concentrated and contain the aminos specific to muscle growth. If you use them consistanly, they really can make a difference.

The soon to be released product "GEAR" will go ten steps further than aminos or Bcaa's. I believe they'll be a staple of every serious bodybuilder. (Those who KNOW about them at least!)

So GEAR will be an all-in-one product for that? Sign me up please. I'd rather use something simple and all-in-one than a million different products. And soon to be released meaning like a week? I don't want to sleep on this...thanks Nelson

 

[Nelson Montana]

So GEAR will be an all-in-one product for that? Sign me up please. I'd rather use something simple and all-in-one than a million different products. And soon to be released meaning like a week? I don't want to sleep on this...thanks Nelson

Bro, if I can get them any sooner I would. (I want to start using them myself!) They're being made as I write this.

You can hit up needto for any discount and/or to put in a pre-order so you're assured of getting them as soon as they arrive. We're also working on a limited amount to start so once they're gone, there may be a wait for the second order.

As with any product (no matter how good) that doesn't have a ton of advertising behind it, sometimes it takes a while for the word to get out. But GEAR is kinda "pre-proven" so we're anticipating a good run.

 

[SouthernLord]

BCAAs really shine when dieting. The kcal is negligible and they keep you anabolic. I use them intra workout and during cardio. I know guys who add them to gallon jugs of water in mega doses and sip on them all day while cutting/prepping.

My brand of choice is Scivation Xtend, but from what I've seen and heard GEAR will be far superior to any amino supp on the market.

 

[sonicwaste]

BCAAs really shine when dieting. The kcal is negligible and they keep you anabolic. I use them intra workout and during cardio. I know guys who add them to gallon jugs of water in mega doses and sip on them all day while cutting/prepping.

My brand of choice is Scivation Xtend, but from what I've seen and heard GEAR will be far superior to any amino supp on the market.

I like the xtend... But found that the LG BC+EAA has basically the same ingredients and dosages but it much cheaper.

 

[aquatic_glories]

how much whey hydro powder equals how much of a whey hydro in amino capsules?? Anyone have idea?? AA servings include very little protein compared to powders even if they have the same material.
Amino s are better for a peak protein synthesis thats the reason I ask