Need help with my STRENGTH, SPEED and ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE cycle

[thebadguy54]

My goals / priorities are as follows:

#1 - Athletic performance, strength and speed
#2 - Increase in lean body mass / muscle mass (provided it helps with strength and speed)

I don't want to gain any useless (water or fat) weight, as it will only slow me down.

Week 1-14
500 mg Test E / week (too much?)
Week 1-12
500 mg EQ / week

I don't plan on using an AI but I have Nolva on hand incase it’s needed.

PCT will be:
Day after last Test shot:
1000 i.u. of HCG EOD for 20 days (10,000 i.u. HGC total in 20 days)
7 days after last shot of HCG (test should be clear by now):
50 mg Clomid ED for 21 days

I can't do HCG during the cycle like some will suggest since I only have 5000 i.u. bottles and some will be wasted (expire).

I was thinking of adding some Var but I don’t know. Also I think my PCT may be a little messed up.

Help!

 

[xrsist]

you need to up your E Q to 14 weeks at least bro to get the full benifit from it 16 weeks even. with your P C T i would just do, day after last shot shoot 500ius H C G ED for 10 days then wait 7 days to start clomid at 50mg ED for 20-30 days. enjoy

 

[needtogetaas]

yup 14-16 weeks is best for eq.add the var last 5-8 weeks.

 

[thebadguy54]

Alright, 14 weeks. Should I run the Test two weeks past the EQ or run them both for 14 weeks? I'd rather not be on for 16 weeks.

Also about my PCT.... I can't run anything (injecable) every day (as xrsist sugested) because of my work schedule. So, should I:
a) run 1000iu's of H C G EOD for 10 days
OR
b) run 500 ED when I can.... but if I can't (because of work) run 1000 the day before and nothing the day I work? (Fuuuuuuuk, does that even make sense?)

 

[thebadguy54]

51 views and 2 replies?

wtf?

Anyone out there on EQ and Test? How are you doing your PCT?

 

[drdug27]

test and eq will be great for 14

agreed with needto Anavar would be a great addition

 

[slat1]

What are your stats?
Cycle history?
Age?
What does your diet look like?

 

[thebadguy54]

What are your stats?
Cycle history?
Age?
What does your diet look like?

5'9", 200 lbs., 12%, 30 yo.

I've only done one cycle before. 10 weeks of Test E at 500mg EW. I've been working out for almost 15 years. My diet is clean and my training is in check.

 

[SpyWizard]

when using hcg, it is preferable to do lower doses for more time...

reason being a higher dose has a possibility of desensitizing the testicles

250iu-500iu is preferred..

 

[Acela]

51 views and 2 replies?

wtf?

Anyone out there on Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Test? How are you doing your PCT - post cycle therapy - ?

I am running a very similar cycle to what you proposed (Te.st E @ 420 mgs EW & E.Q @ 480 mgs EW) and 1 of the best aspects thus far is the increased endurance. I'm about 6.5 weeks into a 16 week cycle and if I knew it wouldn't be counterproductive i would workout for 2+ hours every day. take advantage by doing tons of cardio. and i am not bloating that much and i'm not taking any A-dex or the like.

 

[Acela]

Also, my PCT is protocol #2 in the "Post Cycle Therapy" forum on EF. It's the first sticky, I think, in that forum. good read.

 

[thebadguy54]

Thanks Acela. If I knew how to give K I'd definitely hit you with some. I read that sticky a few weeks ago. I just went back and had another look.

So what do you guys think about this?

Week 1-15
500 mg Enanthate / week
Week 1-14
500 mg Equipoise / week

5 days after last test shot:
1,000 IU HCG 3x/wk with 20 mg Nolva ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for 3 weeks.
After 3 weeks, I'll drop the HCG and continue with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for 3 weeks.

 

[slat1]

If you really want to improve athletic performance you may want to look into a trainer who specializes in Plyometrics.
There is a guy in my area that works with a lot of NFL prospects before the draft.
Plyometrics can help you in any sport.

 

[JarheadChiro]

51 views and 2 replies?

wtf?

Anyone out there on Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Test? How are you doing your PCT - post cycle therapy - ?

I am...

Cycle
Test-E 800 mgs/wk weeks 1-18
EQ 800mgs/wk weeks 1-15
T-bol 60mgs/day weeks 1-4
Liq Arimidex 1mg/day weeks 1-4
.5mg/day weeks 5-12
HCG 200mgs/eod weeks 1-18

Week 19 off- then:

PCT
Nolvadex 20mgs/day weeks 1-6
Aromasin 20 mgs/day weeks 1-4
Vitamin E 1000 iu/day weeks 1-3

 

[thebadguy54]

If you really want to improve athletic performance you may want to look into a trainer who specializes in Plyometrics.
There is a guy in my area that works with a lot of NFL prospects before the draft.
Plyometrics can help you in any sport.

I have a trainer and although he does not specialize in plyometrics, we do some from time to time. Your advice is right on though; plyometrics are great for explosive strength and sports performance. We do a lot of jumping squats, box jumps, Olympic lifts... we also flip tires, push cars and run laps around a track carrying bags of gravel. My trainer is a sadistic lunatic.

 

[thebadguy54]

I am...

Cycle
Test-E 800 mgs/wk weeks 1-18
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 800mgs/wk weeks 1-15
T-bol 60mgs/day weeks 1-4
Liq Arimidex 1mg/day weeks 1-4
.5mg/day weeks 5-12
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 200mgs/eod weeks 1-18

Week 19 off- then:

PCT - post cycle therapy -
Nolvadex 20mgs/day weeks 1-6
Aromasin 20 mgs/day weeks 1-4
Vitamin E 1000 iu/day weeks 1-3

Thanks.

HCG during huh... I'll have to try that if I can ever get bottles smaller than 5000 iu's.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Thanks.

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during huh... I'll have to try that if I can ever get bottles smaller than 5000 iu's.

It doesn’t mater if you waste a little.

Your better off shooting 500iu hCG every week in the middle of the cycle for a few weeks, than waiting till the end.

I think 1000mg/wk total AAS is more than you need or want. Cut both the Eq and Test down to 350mg/wk.

-Pp

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I think 1000mg/wk total anabolic androgenic steroids is more than you need or want. Cut both the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Test down to 350mg/wk.

-Pp

Agreed.

 

[thebadguy54]

It doesn’t mater if you waste a little.

Your better off shooting 500iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - every week in the middle of the cycle for a few weeks, than waiting till the end.

I think 1000mg/wk total anabolic androgenic steroids is more than you need or want. Cut both the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Test down to 350mg/wk.

-Pp

Will do. Thanks.

 

[Papa Lion]

you'll need to run an AI.... you stated one of your priorities being no water weight or fat but with aromatization comes estrogen which will increase both.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

you'll need to run an aromatase inhibitor.... you stated one of your priorities being no water weight or fat but with aromatization comes estrogen which will increase both.

But he needs strength and speed, and is (likely) an athlete, and an Anti-estrogen will compromise joint integrity. He needs to stay away from them, and lower the dose if he is gaining too much non functional weight.

 

[Papa Lion]

agreed^^^ ... but you don't get to have your cake an eat it too!!

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

there is nothing that improves performance more than EPO...pm me if you wanna talk about it...cause it should come with a book it is so complex to run..but good luck...a little test and a good amount of EQ should help...for me...var pumps actually decrease endurance

 

[black panther]

as cauliflower ear has said epo is da nuts for performance. nothing and i mean nothing beats it and cauli is da best man to guide u

 

[thebadguy54]

Thank you everyone for your advice.
Here is what I decided to go with since everything has already been purchased and I need to start in two days.

Week 1-15
350 mg Enanthate / week (1.4cc)
Week 1-14
375 mg Equipoise / week (1.5cc)

5 days after last test shot:
1,000 IUs HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 3x/wk in combination with 20 mg Nolvadex ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for the first 3 weeks.
After, discontinue HCG and continue with 50 mgs Clomid ED for an additional 3 weeks.

I'd love to run the HCG during but I'd waste most of it. I was told it should be used within two weeks of mixing it. If I used 500 iu EW during I'd only use 1500 - 2000 iu's out of every 5000 iu bottle.

 

[Zircon]

your other options are 2-6 weekers with tprop/halo or tren.

I would bloat far too much on your cycle. I can handle bloat for 1 week or so on a 2 weeker, but even on 150mg eod, it gets to me after 2 weeks.

with 2 weekers as well i have amazing recovery everytime (blood tests) within 10 days im fully recovered.