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Need help with first cycle

Dmo

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Im a 22 year old college football player and plan to run my first true cycle during the off season. I ran an 8 week cycle of H-drol, the PH for oral turinabol, this past summer but thats the only "steroid" iv done. Im 5'11 and usually around 210-220 lbs. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. I want to get bigger but i dont need to gain that much weight. I want to increase strength and speed. I was thinking of Test E along with some oral. Ive heard bad things about winny for high impact athletes though and anavar is just too expensive. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
Im a 22 year old college football player and plan to run my first true cycle during the off season. I ran an 8 week cycle of H-drol, the PH for oral turinabol, this past summer but thats the only "steroid" iv done. Im 5'11 and usually around 210-220 lbs. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. I want to get bigger but i dont need to gain that much weight. I want to increase strength and speed. I was thinking of Test E along with some oral. Ive heard bad things about winny for high impact athletes though and anavar is just too expensive. Any advice would be appreciated.

Test is gonna be good to run in anything you want, Winstrol is gonna be good as well most use it for cutting so you wont gain much weight and it will be lean gains. Read this link man will tell alot about winstrol, sides ecspecially dry joints. http://www./Winstrol.php So as you can seeI wouldn't do winstrol if I were you.

As with running virtually any compound, testosterone supplementation (i.e. running test in a cycle containing Winstrol) is warranted to avoid possible sexual dysfunction.
There are many conflicting reports on tendon strength and Stanozolol, even in medical journals. Some reports state that it weakens tendons, others that it strengthens them (and some speculation on the internet among many "guru´s" is that it strengthens them unevenly, leading to possible injury). For this reason, it may be best for athletes in explosive or high-impact sports to stay away from this drug. It has certainly been shown to be beneficial in some bone ailments induced by glucocorticoid induced stress (5) as well as having collagen producing properties (11), but with all of the anecdotal problems athletes have suffered with their joints while on Stanozolol, I simply can not recommend it with confidence to strength/speed athletes.
 
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I would reccomend dieselbolan 2.0 for strength and size or Beastdrol both are nice. In my opinion from what I have read in several threads I compare them like this. Of course everyone is going to react different but like I said for the most part from what I have read this is how it seems.

Dieselbolan 2.0- More size, Some strength, Less sides
Beastdrol - Some size, More strength, More sides

Dieselbolan 2.0 is the new version it is supposed to be like the old one but more like beastdrol giving leaner gains, so I am assuming it will have slight water retention which I would like because you'll want it when you start lifting even heavier weights with it. There was a poll comparing 4 Designer Steroids these 2 were in here as well as Epistrong and Katanadrol. Beastdrol won it overall. So you may want to do some reading and see if you can deal with possible side affects of each. I would not choose epistrong because it is like winstrol will dry the joints. I am pretty sure katanadrol is a cutter also. There is also one more I did not mention, helladrol definately look into that one I have not looked into it much but the reviews have read on it were all positive, it gives a ton of strength I hear but not sure how it compares to beastdrol. Can find these items in the bottom 2 links in my signature.
 
Do you recommend an Anti E to run with it? I dont want my joints to dry out though but i dont want alot of water retention. How do you feel when you run test?
 
Yep, just use some hg test e or c, around 500 mg week for 8-10 weeks and focus on your hcg, pct, diet, training etc.

Do you recommend an Anti E to run with it? I dont want my joints to dry out though but i dont want alot of water retention. How do you feel when you run test?
 
Do you recommend an Anti E to run with it? I dont want my joints to dry out though but i dont want alot of water retention. How do you feel when you run test?

bro,

when i was active athlete the last thing i wanted were joint issues. i dont know how sensitive your joints are but mine had problems if they dried out. stay away from winny imo some dont have problems but if my joints get dry it takes two months for them to get back to normal and a lot of times that was in season so i just had to sack up but that shit sucked.

it depends a lot on what sport and what your job is on the team. I played a few sports and one cycle that i can say was most beneficial to all was test+eq. unless your trying out to be a linemen, speed endurance strength take precedence over size. if you're 210 5'11 you are pretty close to a sustainable peak physically. if you load up on a 750 test e 400 deca cycle you're going to have a hard time maintaining that in season. I strongly recommend something light because you have fresh receptors. 300 test-e 400 eq/ week 8-12 weeks (10 works best for me) I started experimenting with orals on top of that but benefit overall from doing so is debatable.

there are a lot of variables for an athlete and the individual body but you will keep 10 lbs lean from this and thats huge when you are at your physical peak.

good luck
 
bro,

when i was active athlete the last thing i wanted were joint issues. i dont know how sensitive your joints are but mine had problems if they dried out. stay away from winny imo some dont have problems but if my joints get dry it takes two months for them to get back to normal and a lot of times that was in season so i just had to sack up but that shit sucked.

it depends a lot on what sport and what your job is on the team. I played a few sports and one cycle that i can say was most beneficial to all was test+eq. unless your trying out to be a linemen, speed endurance strength take precedence over size. if you're 210 5'11 you are pretty close to a sustainable peak physically. if you load up on a 750 test e 400 deca cycle you're going to have a hard time maintaining that in season. I strongly recommend something light because you have fresh receptors. 300 test-e 400 eq/ week 8-12 weeks (10 works best for me) I started experimenting with orals on top of that but benefit overall from doing so is debatable.

there are a lot of variables for an athlete and the individual body but you will keep 10 lbs lean from this and thats huge when you are at your physical peak.

good luck

I thought about running EQ before. How exactly did you run test and eq exactly with pct n everything? and what was your experience while on the cycle?
 
Winny is really bad on joints really drys you out. If you wanna stack on your first cycle id recommend anavar otherwise drop the winny. Just my oppinion
 
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