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need help with dosage on 1st cycle

the hose

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Hey guys this is my first post i am new to this, i hav trained for the last 3 years hard and went from 170 to 220 i am 6'2. i hav never really taken n e thing until m-one-t which worked well but was mostly water but i did keep some size and the strength. Now i hav decided to go to the next level. I just got a hold of 3 bottles of enanthate and 4 of propinate both are qv. my friend told me to look them up and check the batch numbers which i did and they are real but i am not sure how much to take and how often i know i will hav to take the prop more but i just wanted another opinion. thanx guys
 
Well you are going to have to inject them...

Take the test E 250mg-500mg a week for 10-12 weeks
THen do your pct. Search is your friend.
 
Neo22 said:
Well you are going to have to inject them...

Take the test E 250mg-500mg a week for 10-12 weeks
THen do your pct. Search is your friend.
^
Also the prop is usually run EOD @ 100mgs
 
I should not take them both at the same time? i had heard from someone else that i should shoot the prop 3 times a week and the enanthate twice for 10. This is all new 2 me im sorry if i sound retarted. Is there n e thing else that i should stack with the test?
 
This is only my opinion and my advice:

Do not try to use that "thing" on yourself if you don't know what it is, what is made from, what is used for, how to use it, how reacts in your body, what could be possible side effects, how to combat and control side effects. You need to read, research and learn a lot first for your own safety. You can get a lot of benefits from those little bottles, but only if you know enough to take advantage of them. If you don't know enough, you'll get bloated, will increase strenght, after using them you'll loose that water, strenght, and you'll keep side effects for a long time...
 
do more research bro

since this is your first cycle, this would be a good start

Week 1-10 Test Eth. 500mg/week in 2 dosages (Monday morning, Thursday Evening)
Use Nolva for your PCT, that will be plenty since its your first cycle.
Use something like 10mg ED or EOD throughout and bump it up to 20-40mg if you start seeing some sides or bloat. Run that for atleast 3-4 weeks past your last injection.

Good Luck.
 
Thanx for the help and dont worry i will read more into it before i do anything i was planin on sittin on it for awhile thats y i started askin questions.
 
well, its good you came here to ask questions. i'm not a big fan of the "shoot first,ask questions later" aspect. "oh man, i'm taking 4 shots of test and i have a big knot and my face is breaking out and looking like a moon face". i do'nt like hearing that, but i'm glad you decided to ask questions before you poked. read more and this is what i'd do.

week 1-12 500mg(2cc's) test enanthate
week 1-4 50mg/ed(1/2cc) test propionate.

the lay out will be this. just to put in laymens terms.

sun. 1/2cc test p.
mon. 1cc test e / 1/2cc testp (use same syringe, cuts down on pokes)
tues. 1/2cc test p.
weds. 1/2cc test p.
thurs. 1cc test e / 1/2cc test p (ditto^^)
fri. 1/2cc test p.
sat. 1/2cc test p.

now that will outline your first 4 weeks. keep in mind it looks like a lot, but 1/2cc is practiacllly nothing, very small amount. you can shoot 1/2cc almost anywhere, bis,tris,calves etc. but when you shoot the full 1 1/2cc i'd go w/ a big bodypart, like glutes or quads.

the following 8 weeks will consist of just the mon. and thurs. 1cc injects. your just using the prop to jumpstart your gains cuz the enanthate will take so long to kick in fully, like 4-5 weeks. hope this helps, and keep on researching bro, knowledge is power!!!!
 
^ Ya make sure you know that 1ml/cc is 250 mg of test. And also, get 3 cc syringes (not 10)! Believe it or not, people have made mistakes on the doses. Make sure you know this stuff inside and out before you start.
 
Yeah i hav plenty of 3cc 21 gauge syringes and can get more easily that was goin to be my next question. Where to shoot. but i hav not hit that stage yet
 
Ulter said:
Use the enanthate for 8 weeks and then switch to the prop for 2 more. Keep your dose around 500mg/wk and be sure you have nolvadex or like product to use with the test. You really should read more here for a while first.

Solid.
 
you could go with a higher gauge needle than 21 a23at 1.5inches will be more comfortable for ya and the glute would be your best place to shoot and the thigh would be my second fav.a-bombs cycle layout looks good another way would be to use the prop at the end of the cycle so you can clear your body of the drug quicker while you start pct (using hcg)hope this helps bro.
 
the hose said:
I should not take them both at the same time? i had heard from someone else that i should shoot the prop 3 times a week and the enanthate twice for 10. This is all new 2 me im sorry if i sound retarted. Is there n e thing else that i should stack with the test?


throw in some deca with the test e... 400/wk
 
quizkid said:
I would go heavy 750mg of the test, because your first cycle will be the best. Eat big train hard.

chilly

horrible, horrible advise :rolleyes:

I'm with ulter. The only thing that I would add is prop @ 50mg/eod for the first two weeks as a kickstart. It's still just one compound, just different esters.
 
IM 21 years old i waited for a few years of trainin hard. I wanted to use the deca instead of the prop but i was not able to get my hands on any. I dont think i want to take the dosage up to 750 i thought 500 would be plenty of the test e. my diet is real good i cheat from time to time but nothin to serious.
 
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