Need help with a cutter cycle

[cswole]

Starting to plan out my cutter I'll start in Feb. This will be my first cut cycle ever. At 200 lbs at 5'8, roughly 12.5% bodyfat. Plan on being same bodyfat at around 210 by December(Sustanon, it's whats for dinner currently).

So yea, I'm thinking Tren Ace, 75mg ed, winstrol 50-75mg ed, Test prop, 75mg ed. Figuring on running it for around 15 weeks. PCT will be in order of course. Should I worry about taking arimidex ed on this stuff or just keep some nolva on hand?

Also should I run all three all 15 weeks, or cut them off at some point. Ahh yes, also plan on running clen 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off, etc for 14 weeks total(including off time).

Anything you guys would change about this or advice on time period to run these? Figure a good diet around 1500-1800 cals a day, with moderate protein and carb intake, all clean of course, running first thing in the morning, lifting at night with very little downtime between sets.

 

[cswole]

I should add. Previous cycles include the following

Deca 600 mg/w, Eq 400 mg/w for 12 weeks.

Currently In the middle of 500mg sustanon/w, 100mg e/d anadrol(finished with this already). 12 weeks total, 6 weeks on the drol.

 

[djsf]

If you want to cut and you also want to include test, I would run arimidex to eliminate bloat as much as for gyno protection. I would run arimidex 1mg ed through the whole cycle (3 days before starting your cycle until a couple days after starting nolva in your PCT). I am on a deca/test cycle (700mg ew of each) with arimidex and I am very pleased with the results: very lean with lots of vascularity and no bloat at all, and 11 lean lbs gained in 3 weeks. A-dex works!

Also, if you are going to run winstrol, I would run it for only the last 6 weeks of your cycle at 50mg ed (divided into 2 doses), not for thw whole cycle. It is fairly liver toxic.

You might also want to run dostinex at 0.25mg to .5mg e4d, as the tren starts to kill your libido after a few weeks. Other than that, you should love the energy boost and raw drive you will get from tren, though the night sweats and sleeplessness are something you will have to deal with.

Lastly, I would boost your calories way above 1500-1800 per day if you want to gain lean mass. Your body will probably demand upwards of 4000-5000 calories to grow! Also, you said "moderate" protein. I would commit to eat 1g of protein per lb of body weight (200g for you) per day. I would try to keep your calories up and only drop it if you find you are gaining too much fat weight. At only 1500 cals I think you would not be able to grow effectively on your cycle.

 

[cswole]

Not trying to grow really. If I get some lean mass, great, if not, oh well. Main goals are hardening up, and cutting fat. That's why so low of calories. Figuring the average person's maintenance calories = 2500ish, I need to be below that to burn off fat effectivley.

The test is to help somewhat with retaining strength, but also to keep the libido up b/c of the tren. Winny for hardness and strength retention. Tren for strength and energy.

Currently bulking, so I'm more along the lines of the diet you suggested, except 6000-7000 calories per day, 300-350g protein per day, with a good amount of carbs to keep the lifts hard and heavy.

 

[djsf]

Not trying to grow really. If I get some lean mass, great, if not, oh well. Main goals are hardening up, and cutting fat. That's why so low of calories. Figuring the average person's maintenance calories = 2500ish, I need to be below that to burn off fat effectivley.

The test is to help somewhat with retaining strength, but also to keep the libido up b/c of the tren. Winny for hardness and strength retention. Tren for strength and energy.

Currently bulking, so I'm more along the lines of the diet you suggested, except 6000-7000 calories per day, 300-350g protein per day, with a good amount of carbs to keep the lifts hard and heavy.

Maybe if you don't want to grow, you can accomplish your goal without steroids. You can try:
- Low calorie, high protein diet eaten as 6 small meals throughout the day
- Do cardio first thing in the morning when your blood sugar levels are low (body will dip into fat reserves)
- You can add a fat burner, anything from Thermorexin to Clenbuterol
(see Radar's good post in http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437920)

These things work. You may not even need gear.

 

[cswole]

Yea, I just don't want to lose muscle mass. The gear is there for the above listed reasons+ muscle mass preservation. My ultimate goal is to be around 235-240 ripped, so I still have a lot of bulking to do, but I feel that I need to go ahead and cut this fat off or the bulking might get out of hand with the little bit of fat I put on in a bulk cycle(not much, but it adds up).