Need Help on an Athlete's cycle

[little chris]

OK, forget BB'ing for right now and concentrate on an athlete's cycle. Come Oct/Nov football/hockey season starts for me. Since I've pretty much always trained as a BB I wanted to switch it up and train as an athlete. (Fonz I could use your help here) My project size would be 5'6" 175lbs keeping BF around 6-8%. As for gear I'm leaning toward Sust/500mg EQ/500mg Var/40mg for 12 weeks, 8weeks with the Var.

Now more importantly how should my diet look. How many carbs, cals, fat, protein do I need.

I'll be weightlifting 4-5x p/w along with 2-3 days of cardio. The Cardio will be all dry-land exercises, 40yard dashes 100yard dashes with mini-parachute, and other various polymetric exercises.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

 

[georgie24]

i would say winny with minimal doses of test prop. winny is amazing

 

[little chris]

i would say winny with minimal doses of test prop. winny is amazing

Almost everyone says that var is superior to winny. Less toxic, no injects, more strength, less joint pain. Var maybe alittle more pricey but seems likea no brainer. As for the Test, sust works fine for me since my body doesn't suffer from any water bloating.

 

[season7445]

As for the Test, sust works fine for me since my body doesn't suffer from any water bloating.

I wish i could say the same!

 

[bambam34]

ya there r guys on my football team who use winny n they r always out with joint problems....stick with the var

 

[little chris]

bump
Need more responses for the diet.

 

[Judo Tom]

i think its a great cycle for an athlete if you have tried test at that dosage and like it the var and eq will be great!

basically if your not restricted by weight class you might not want to look at the scale.. just look at your 40 time or your speed on the ice..

have you tried full body routines with reduced volume? and have you tried doing something like this.. basically pick a major muscle/exercise like a row machine.. start it at a weight you think you can get 30-40 reps perform the reps then rest 10 secs and crank out another 25-30 reps wait 10 more secs then perform a 3rd set then move on to another exercise and repeat. I love doing sessions like this and my overall endurance both aerobic and anaerobic have jumped considerably since adding this type of circuit

diet is a very specific thing.. you really have to listen to your body.. at time with the lifting and the training your body will NEED more food and if you deny it the food you will not perform at your best and will be more like to suffer an injury.

make sure you eat good balance meals after you train ... you do not need just protein as an athlete you need to rest and recover as quickly as possible for your next session so if you are feeling run down add more cals around your workouts.. both pre and post.

after a workout i like to have 1 shake with carbs and protein.. then a nice big meal with chicken/steak and veggies/potatoes/ or even pasta if i am craving the carbs

the shake and the meal will help control cortisol and let you recover quicker

i would make sure you have some carbs like fruit about 45 mins before your workout. it will help performance as well as help you absorb more of the protein you take in after your workout.

if your workouts are in the evening i would not completely cut off carbs at nite and not even after the shake and the meal i would still try to get some slow digesting carbs in before bed with fats/proteins

i would think 6% is too low of a % to remain during a season. i would rather stay around 8+ but that is just my experience

are you integrating any of the olympic lifts into your routine.. if you havent i really suggest you give it a try.. it will really help your start/stop speed in hockey as well as your sprints both on and off the ice

good luck

 

[little chris]

Thanks Judo

I really don't do High repetion workouts but rather High intensity.

As for Olympic lifts I do some clean and presses and regular cleans.
I do keep in track with my powerlifting exercises though.
My best 40 yard dash time was 4.38 last year and I wasn't in terrfic cardio shape either.

Fruit before a workout is a good idea that I'll try.

 

[GenSci26]

Thanks Judo

I really don't do High repetion workouts but rather High intensity.

As for Olympic lifts I do some clean and presses and regular cleans.
I do keep in track with my powerlifting exercises though.
My best 40 yard dash time was 4.38 last year and I wasn't in terrfic cardio shape either.

Fruit before a workout is a good idea that I'll try.

You should definately give Power Snatches and light jump squats (no more than 15-25% of full squat 1RM) a try!
I've done 12 weeks of the canadian ascending-descending routine, by Chris Thibaudeau which consist of step-ups jumps, depth jumps, jump squats, power snatches and full front (or back) squats on day 1, and the same exercises just the sequence reversed on day 4. Honestly I thought I was totally overtraining until I took a full week of rest after 12 weeks and then BAM, standing vertical jump improved by 4 good inches. 40 time was cut by .2 sec.
You might be able to find the full routine on t-mag somewhere.

As for gear I've found that cycle to be very effective:
1-14 GH 5iu ED
1-12 Prop 75mg EOD
1-8 Var 50mg ED or 1-5 Halo 35mg ED
Try not to go above 600mg of AAS per week if your priority is speed and you don't want to gain much more weight. With more you tend to gain more mass but not really more strength or power.

 

[bambam34]

dude with a 4.38 40 i dont care who u r u have a chance to play in the NFL

 

[Fonz]

Almost everyone says that var is superior to winny. Less toxic, no injects, more strength, less joint pain. Var maybe alittle more pricey but seems likea no brainer. As for the Test, sust works fine for me since my body doesn't suffer from any water bloating.

Var is the better choice. The reason people prefer winny over var is simply because of the price and availibility. If you can get it and can afford it, use it. Your joints will thank you later on.
You should look into Masteron. It's great for an added adrogenic effect(Better than test), and seems to definately improve your speed.

 

[little chris]

dude with a 4.38 40 i dont care who u r u have a chance to play in the NFL

HEHE
Most people don't believe me when I say that, but when they see me run they believe. I think its because I have legs like a black sprinter. Thin ankles with high small calf muslces and big thighs.

 

[Fonz]

HEHE
Most people don't believe me when I say that, but when they see me run they believe. I think its because I have legs like a black sprinter. Thin ankles with high small calf muslces and big thighs.

4.38 is definately fast.

I haven't done it in ages though.

 

[little chris]

Like I said this was my best not my average. My average is in between 4.4 and 4.5

 

[mrjrock19]

Like I said this was my best not my average. My average is in between 4.4 and 4.5

a 4.38 is haulin ass... the fastest i ever ran was a 4.6