need help from the big boys...

[creep]

Well I’m finally ready to start my first cycle. My goals are to gain as much permanent mass as possible while keeping BF% down. I’m lifting 5 days a week followed by 30 minutes of cardio. I may increase the cardio to 45-60 minutes depending on how I feel. I’m keeping my protein intake high and cards/fat low. My current stats are: 5’7, 175lbs, 12%-14% BF (not really sure). I was considering Tren and Dbol but I think I’m going to hold out for another cycle. I’d like to know what you guys think about this. Should I frontload the test? Should I go for cypionate or enanthate?

TEST 500mg wk 1-10
EQ 400mg wk 3-10
LDEX 1mg ED
Clomid Therapy
ECA, NYC and CLEN rotated every 2 wks’

Is this to much TEST and EQ for a first cycle? Should I lower the dosages and how much? Should I front load the TEST or go for 600mg wk?

Thanks for taking the time. I’m going to take pictures throughout the cycle for you guys to review.

creep

 

[jc21]

too much test imo...no need to front load imo. just take 500mg for 10 weeks...drop the eq to 400mg/wk...and dont run less than 10 weeks. glad to see you are using ldex. this will be a great cycle..good luck!

 

[creep]

I actually ment to put down 400mg of EQ.

 

[HighIntensity]

everything jc is correct, get ready to grow.

 

[creep]

cool, and if I drop EQ down to 400mg and run test at 500mg I'll have enough for 12 weeks instead of 10.

 

[creep]

I was planning on shooting the test 2x a week 250 on Mon and 250 on Thurs. Which day would be ideal for the EQ inject? Or should I split the EQ into 2 days?

 

[HighIntensity]

yes shooting eq twice a week is min. what kind is it?

 

[creep]

It's Equi-bol 200mg/ml.

 

[HighIntensity]

yes 2 shots a week

 

[creep]

Same day as the test? can I inject both together?

 

[PaPaPumPPP]

yup ....1cc of each twice a week...

 

[creep]

Can I draw the EQ and TEST into the same syringe? is 23 G to small?

 

[me2dammit]

hey

this is just my opinion but go on a strict diet for like 2 weeks before you cycle and get that BF down to like 10%.

Then run your cycle, it will give you alot more room to eat when bulking and your body will be primed for the muscle gains and you will be thankful in the end.

 

[creep]

Re: hey

this is just my opinion but go on a strict diet for like 2 weeks before you cycle and get that BF down to like 10%.

Then run your cycle, it will give you alot more room to eat when bulking and your body will be primed for the muscle gains and you will be thankful in the end.

I'm on a strict diet now and trying to eat atleast 5 small meals. Very low carbs and fat and very high protein. I'm eating clean absolutly no fast food, no junk food and I'm only drinking water. I'm using ECA Stack which will be rotated with NYC/Clen as soon as they get here and I'm also using Yohimburn. I won't be starting my cycle untill a couple weeks of so I'm using this time to get lean.

 

[jc21]

since you have a little extra test run the test for 11 weeks and the eq for 10. and start the clomid 2 weeks after you last test shot and 3 weeks after your last eq shot.

 

[Nathan]

Enan or cyp doesn't matter really. Looks good with what you have now. If you are bulking then drop the cardio down. 5 times a wekek at 30 minutes each go is gonna hamper gains. Try for maybe 2 times a week at that amount. Eat clean and you'll do nicely. Don't try to gain mass and cut at the same time on your first cycle especially. You don't know how your body will react and you are unfamiliar with the bloat which complicates things. Good luck bro.

 

[NoLimits]

I’m keeping my protein intake high and cards/fat low.

creep

I don't think you should keep the carbs and fats low! Just keep them clean (Oatmeal, Brown rice, red potatos....) Same with the fats... (flax oil, fish, Nat. Peanutbutter... any of your good Omega 3 & 6's) Also, keep raw, unsalted nuts (Almonds, Walnuts, Sunflower seeds) around to snack on all day! You are going to need all of them to put on any serious muscle! Just my $.02

 

[jc21]

I don't think you should keep the carbs and fats low! Just keep them clean (Oatmeal, Brown rice, red potatos....) Same with the fats... (flax oil, fish... any of your good Omega 3 & 6's) You are going to need them to put on any serious muscle! Just my $.02

i definatly agree

 

[Realgains]

Not bad but I would do this...and I have been doing gear for 19 years bro....

You are only about 10 pounds below your natural maximum lean weight bro so your dose can be a little more than some other newbies

Test cyp or enanthate 700 mg on day one and Eq 700mg on day one as front loads. It is important that you front load, especially the very slow acting EQ, or it will take 2-3 weeks to reach optimum blood hormone levels.
Don't be afraid of the front loads as they are very safe. It is far safer than using a 17aa roid like d-bol to kick start a cycle. Blood hormone levels DO NOT sky rocket with this practise as the hormones still need to have time to de-esterfy. It just gets blood levels up in a hurry so you don't waste any time.

After the front loads do 350 each of test and EQ every 4 days with the first dose coming 3 days after the front load. thats 700mg every 8 days and should be plenty. Run it for 8-10 weeks. Three weeks after your last EQ shot shit the clomid hard at 300 mg on day one in divided doses and then 50 per day for at least three weeks more.

Drop the estrogen inhibitor as you will not get much bloat from this cycle. Also some estrogen is needed in order to stimulate IGF-1...the whole arimidex thing has gotten way out of hand!
Take nolva at 20 per day as it will help slightly with bloat and will prevent gyno. It also acts as an estrogen in the liver and helps to maintain a decent lipid profile, as long as moderate doses of non 17aa roids are used.
I take nolva on ALL cycle as does Bill llewellyn for cholesterol reasons...it helps. Bill Roberts also agrees.
Estrogen inhibitors terribly affect ones lipid profile bro....this is a fact that few understand...avoid them if you can. Always remember this one bro.....the #1 worst side of AAS use for the vast majority of men is a shitty lipid profile. A shiity profile for even a few years = time off your life!


RG