Need Hardcore Expert Advice

[Nance]

Ok guys, here is my problem. Did my 3rd week of injections. Sust and Primo. Very low mgs. 250/wk sust 400/wk - Primo
I am naturally a little puffy in the nip area and got what I believe are gyno symptoms by the 2nd week. Itchy nips, sensitive nips... So I started nolvedex. 40mgs for a few days and tappered to 20 per day. The symptoms occasionally re-occur and when they do I just up the dosage again to 30 or 40 mgs again.

Ok here it is:
I also hurt my damn shoulder. Not too bad but I think I need to rest it a week and a half, whirlpool it and should be good to begin back slowly.

My cycle only runs 8 weeks which Im already 3 weeks in and I still get gyno symptoms off and on even with low dosages of sust..

1. With my shoulder, should I continue the cycle and loose a week of training or abort the whole thing...?

and if so how long should I take nolv and clomid post cycle... Consider that I am at the end of my 3rd week now..

2. Should I boost my nolv intake until the symptoms are completely gone for an extended period of time instead of feeling them every 2 days and just continue the cycle..??

3. Should I switch from the test to say anavar or winny to go with the primo....??

NEED HELP FELLAS...!!!

Thanks... Big Nance

 

[Nance]

I definately plan on doing that but for how long after the cycle ends...??

Also, I wonder if I should abort the cycle since I've injured my shoulder and will lose a week or two getting it back..??

Also, is it possible to switch from using the sust now and slide onto Winny for a replacement without butchering the cycle..??

 

[Nelson Montana]

Lower the dosage of sus. Add some winny if you like. Get some proviron. Shorten the cycle, but keep it going a bit longer and work legs a lot. They probably need it.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

How sure are you on the legitmicay of your primo?There's a lot of fakes out there,and in most cases,it's actually deca rather than primo that you're actually injecting.In either case,keep running the nolvadex ED.If gyno symptoms persist,I would consider coming off,and running low to non-aromatic compounds-only in the future,or running gear that aromitizes with femara,aromasin,or liquidex.

Taking a week off mid-cycle won't hurt you at all.In fact,if nutrition is kept on track,you will probably come back with an additional couple of lbs gained.The gear will help speed recovery time as well.

 

[BigPapaPump]

I'd check out the primo....sounds fishy too me. 250 mgs of sust should not give anyone gyno this soon.

Is also sounds like you're taking the anti's, stopping them and then taking them again. You must realize that you will subject yourself to rebound by doing this. Nolvadex will only prevent extrogen from binding, it does not stop it from occurring. Once you stop the novaldex, the estrogen is still around and then will attach itself and you get worse symptoms. SO by all means, do not decrease your intake to nothing.

As far as the training, I probably would stop the gear, the esters in the sust should hold you over for the week without any major drop off.

BPP

 

[Nance]

Great advice bros.. Thats why I sought you dudes out specifically...

I think I will come off the gear for a week and recover a bit on the shoulder.

As far as nolveldex, I will come up to about 40mgs/ed and stay there through one month after last injection. I had a little puberty gyno coming up and suspect that I might be extremely sensitive

As far as authenticity of the primo, I can only verify by site so I went to several sites and verified the box and ampules that I have and it seems to check out.

Question 1: Is that a good way to verify...????

and one last question......

Question 2: If I wanted to swith to winstrol injectable for example would I just simply start that and not worry about jumpstarting the nads with clomid at this time..?? I ask because winstrol will not surpress like test so I wonder if that makes sense for me to start clomid too..??

Thanks again bros...

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I was going to give some advice, but looks like Huck & Papapump beat me to it. Good advice guys, karma for both of you.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

The best way to have your primo verified is by having a lab analysis done on it.But you can always post up pics of the amps/boxes here and see if one of our counterfeit spotters recognizes it.
Winstrol will suppress your endogenous hormone production,maybe not as dramatic as some of the heavier androgenics/aromatics,but it will still shut you down,so bare that in mind.Start the clomid after the winstrol,or whatever A/S you're running.