Need advice on big cycle to gain 40lbs

[rhino1]

When I started out I wasn't on any aas (of course) and weighed 140 something lbs at 6'2" and was 22 years old. Obviously I had a high metabolism (young, male, tall, skinny) and found out quick that I had to eat a lot to gain anything. My normal daily intake was probably around 2200 calories per day. I bumped that up to 3500 calories. And, it was hard to do. As a skinny guy I just didn't crave tons of food- let alone half-way clean food. So, I was taking in an aprox. extra 1300 calories per day. Guess what? I didn't gain anything. I bumped it up to 3800 calories for 2 weeks, still nothing. Finally I forced myself to eat exactly 4000 calories per day (it was about all I could do to do that! so believe me I was counting down the cals every day). Within a week I was up several lbs! A week later I was up a few more lbs. Then, I had to bump it up again slightly. My point to this rambling is that it was that last little 200 calories that tipped me over the metabolic edge. I know it doesn't make logical sense. But, it stuck with me.

Any time I feel I'm just not growing well I only have to look at my diet. Generally (being lazy) I get plenty of rest, and as I love to train hard (big ego) that's in check. All that's left is food, for me anyhow. And, it's funny, I can stall out and quit gaining on a gram of test, gh and slin if I'm not eating properly. Up the calories sufficiently and, boom, there's the gains!

Hey youre totally right if im not eating right or enough for that matter my gains stop regardless of what im on, il have to experiment a bit with food intake, ive allways found it hard to gain weight and I can eat a lot, so il up it as much as I can and see what happens, thanks for the advice.

 

[andrecarrara]

Exactly !

1500 mg test no AI ..probably put another 5 of tits..

 

[Dogfox]

What you have laid out is pretty good, definitely stick with the beastdrol (AKA superdrol). Id look into adding some tren into the mix, and if you can get it test susp in place of the anadrol. Def consider tren tho. Go for 14-16 weeks

 

[HarryHarry]

Dont see what all the talk about calories and how high they should be is all about??

Eat until you get fat. If you arent adding fat you arnt eating enough. In the end id rather be a tad fatter on the BF% side and know I gained maximum muscle than lean out and wonder if I could have got more. Unless its a cutter which it isnt.

Week 1-13 Test @ 500-750mg a week
Week 1-12 Deca @ 400-600mg a week
Week 1-4 ABombs @ 100mg ed
Week 8-12 Beastdrol @ 30mg ed

4 weeks PCT, hcg and post cycle liver support during and after...
12 weeks rest...

Week 1-16 Test @ 500mg a week
Week 1-14 Primo @ 400 - 600mg * or high as you can afford to run it* a week
Week 1-14 EQ @ 250mg a week
Week 1-4 TBol @ 40 - 60mg a week
Week 10-14 Beastdrol again if you liked it. 30mgs ed as before.

Both cycles will jack you up so up to you. The first is a bulker and the second I chose is the dream clean bulker. Costly tho but lol. You might get a hell lot more weight from the first cycle but I bet you look twice the size lean and hard from the second. In the end id rather look a good 200 pounds than a shitty 250 lbs.

Could always change the primo for tren if you wanna save money and dont mind the sides.

Harry

 

[jacshelb]

Dont see what all the talk about calories and how high they should be is all about??

Eat until you get fat. If you arent adding fat you arnt eating enough. In the end id rather be a tad fatter on the BF% side and know I gained maximum muscle than lean out and wonder if I could have got more. Unless its a cutter which it isnt.

That's actually a good point. You can go about it that way. But, If you don't know how many calories you are eating per day, then how do you know how many to cut to lose fat once you need to back off. If everything is done by feel and kind of "wait till you see fat showing" kind of techniques then you really just get what you get and don't have much say in the matter. It's all guess work. Trust me, I do a lot of it. But, when I need to step it up and really hit it hard (either gaining or losing) that's when it's time to start taking "inventory" to see what I'm doing and what needs changing.

 

[HarryHarry]

That's actually a good point. You can go about it that way. But, If you don't know how many calories you are eating per day, then how do you know how many to cut to lose fat once you need to back off. If everything is done by feel and kind of "wait till you see fat showing" kind of techniques then you really just get what you get and don't have much say in the matter. It's all guess work. Trust me, I do a lot of it. But, when I need to step it up and really hit it hard (either gaining or losing) that's when it's time to start taking "inventory" to see what I'm doing and what needs changing.

Completly true for cutting I agree. Bulks get too complicated for me tho sumtimes and it makes more sence just to have fun with it and eat as much as possible. Completly agree tho for maintaning a good figure or cutting you need to have these numbers diald in.

Harry

 

[thelocal]

id just use test e,test susp,tren,and eq.ull gain big if u eat enough