Need advice on 1st cutting cycle - test prop only

[syko]

I'm 33 220lbs 17% BF. Looking to get down to about 220lbs and 10% ~which is a loss of about 10lbs of fat and a gain of 10lbs of lean muscle. This will be my 3rd cycle.

Main requirements are few to no sides. Anything else is a go.

I've posted on this before and with some more research and the help in that thread I've come to this:

Cycle:
wk 1-10 Test Prop 500mg/wk
wk 4-10 HCG 250iu e4d
wk 4-10 Aromasin 12.5mg ed

PCT starts day after last shot of Test Prop;
wk 11-13 HCG 1000iu every m/w/f
wk 11-13 Aromasin 12.5mg ed
wk 11-16 Nolva 20mg ed

Precuationary stuff:
Nizerol shampoo throughout cycle
What other supps would you recommend for healthy liver and kidney function?

You'll notice there's no Clomid in here. I opted not to take it because I'm going through a divorce and feel shitty enough as it is, plus I've gotten psychosis from Ephedrine before so I'm sure Clomid would f*ck me up. Am I going to be okay without it? What would you sub, if anything.

You'll also notice there's no propecia/proscar in here for hair loss. I am worried about hair loss, but not enough to put up with the potential long lasting sides of that shit.

Do I need any other compounds to accomplish these goals? Anything else I'm missing?

 

[oyvind_1989]

I like the cycle!
and a tip Clenbuterol is great for redusing body fat and keeping muscle! 100mcg ed take it in the morning... start low 40mcg and upper the dose... use it 3-4weeks on, 3-4weeks off...

 

[endojuicedr]

Clen, even in small doses, has been shown to cause serious long term heart problems in animals which could very well translate to humans. I wouldn't advise anyone on using it or t3 without telling them potential risks.

Your cycle looks fine even though I think your goals are a little unrealistic, you might be able to get close to what you want though. Here is what I would change:

wk 1-10 test prop 500/wk

wk 1-11.5 HCG 250 iu e4d

wk 1-11.5 aromasin 12.5 mg ed

PCT wk 12-17 nolva 20mg ... instead of aromasin get some liquid toremifene and use it 120/90/60/60/30 along with the nolva, this is about the best pct you can do. very few people report sides on tore and the long term use of it looks positive.

You shouldnt need anything for liver or kidneys here, maybe some spiro to protect your hair.

 

[syko]

Sh#t, now I'm thinking of adding Var to this at 50-75mg/day. Anyone have input on that?

I'd like to add ECA to this cycle too, but that shit literally turns me mental. You think I could get the desired results with good diet and cardio on either version of this cycle?

 

[endojuicedr]

Ya Var last 6 weeks is good, you could add primo also if you can afford it. The great thing about primo is you can actually gain muscle mass while on a caloric deficit(losing fat). I would just forget about the stimulants and get your diet and cardio right.

 

[syko]

cost isn't an issue here. I'm just concerned with lean gains, low risk of counterfeits, and low sides.

If I went with Primo would I need to switch up the the "support" medicines at all?

I'm hella prone to gyno, have some from a cycle of A50 years ago that I'd like to get rid of, to say nothing of my significant concern for getting any more...

 

[syko]

I know this thread is old. But im back to my plan again. I got a line on some var. Thinking of running 60mg ed for 8 weeks. Thinking of lowering test prop levels just so I can keep my sex drive like 75mg eod (262mg/wk). I don't want to use Clomid so need suggested pct for this new idea that doesn't include it pls.

 

[syko]

I'm gonna be 40 this year so my prime concerns are health and my new wife not finding out ;-)

 

[EZ_E]

Start a new thread dude