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Mac173

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I'm not gonna get into details, but lets say a "friend" of mine was recently busted w/ possesion of AAS. It doesn't really matter how, it was just some bad luck and some unfortunate events. LE says that if he is willing to cooperate then he may get off, and by cooperate he means sources, sites and addy's. He says absolutely not. But then he gets to thinking, what if he handed over addys of only busted labs or scammer websites? He could come up w/ enough to keep them running around in circles for a year. He would rather go to jail than jeopordize in anyway any source that is actually legit and still running.

Give me some advice for my "freind" bros.
 
They will not let him off completly, a guy I knew was busted and narked out my fucken source and still got 3 years. He had a bunch of other charges also though.

I'll I know is he better stay out of town!

Using busted sources sounds like a good idea though.
 
iceman7230 said:
They will not let him off completly, a guy I knew was busted and narked out my fucken source and still got 3 years. He had a bunch of other charges also though.

I'll I know is he better stay out of town!

Using busted sources sounds like a good idea though.
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That's what I was thinking. He was never a rat and he said he's not gonna start now.
 
iceman7230 said:
That sucks man, how nuch did he get caught with? Was it from customs coming after him?
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I wasn't customs. About 50 amps test e, HCG, adex, clomid, needles.
Everything to cmplete a cycle and PCT.
 
iceman7230 said:
Did they say how many years he could be charged for?
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No, they just called him this morning and had him come down to the station.

Not sure if it was all threats.
 
They are gonna try and scare him with 10 years in prison but they always use the scare tactics in order to get information.

Hope everything goes alright man.
 
iceman7230 said:
They are gonna try and scare him with 10 years in prison but they always use the scare tactics in order to get information.

Hope everything goes alright man.
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Me too.
 
gslben said:
Can you give us a LITTLE detail i.e. a scenario for how he may have been busted?
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Let's just say that they were found by LE in his dresser. Can't really give anymore info. than that.
 
He should have never went down when they called him. If they had any thing on him they would never had called him. They would have just arrested him.
 
if he was PUSHING juice, HE KNOWS he needs to skip town


if he dosnt, hes a fucking idiot

MAC, i think you know the answer to your own questions

It sounds like he was pushing, so tell him to get his nuts out of their palms and be a man and get the FUCK out !@!!!
 
needtogetaas said:
He should have never went down when they called him. If they had any thing on him they would never had called him. They would have just arrested him.
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They had no search warrant either. They were in the house due to something totally unrelated and happened to stumble upon the AAS.
 
Mac173 said:
They had no search warrant either. They were in the house due to something totally unrelated and happened to stumble upon the anabolic androgenic steroids.
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Witch means they can not use it in a court of law.
 
Mac173 said:
Let's just say that they were found by LE in his dresser. Can't really give anymore info. than that.
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Cool, I know you and I live near each other that's why I was asking. Needto/Acela and a few others do too for that matter.

Best of luck to your "friend"
 
LE would need a search warrant to go in that dresser, even if the LE was there on a call i.e.(domestic....911..etc.etc.)if the LE was there for some reason even if he was called, he cant just go looking thru dressers and such unless he was given permission to do so , if he did and found the stash all he can do is seize it.....no charge, they will try to get as much info as possible and make you (your friend) try to cop to it, the best reply is he doesnt know whos it is, or how it got there and an attorney wouldnt be a bad idea either, depending on the circumstances........good luck......fla2tn
 
needtogetaas said:
Witch means they can not use it in a court of law.
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That's what I was thinking. I'm no lawyer, but w/ out a warrant I don't see how that would ever stand up. I'll put it this way, they were in the house for a medical emergency along w/ the peremedics (the emergency had nothing to do w/ steroids) but they started searching and found his stuff. He was not there and had no idea that this was happening. Now they want to charge him w/ possession.
 
Just get a good lawyer...anyone decent and you will end up with 3 yrs drug offender probation..thats it..even giving up busted sources wont do much, they will eventually find out, and ratting wont get him completely out b/c they have as long as 7 yrs on felonies to come back and charge you as far as the statute of limitations...
 
Another thing is that the incident happened the beginning of Oct. and he hears nothing until today. They call him and say that they want to talk to him about some of the things they found in his room. He goes down and they start making threats. He tells them he will not cooperate and the meeting ends immediately.
 
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your friend seems like an idiot

i feel bad for him, but if he was really in some deep shit, he would be halfway across the country by now
 
Is there any lawyers on the board or anyone that could give some solid legal advice. Thanks to all that have contributed so far. Just a little worried about the guy.
 
holy ghost said:
your friend seems like an idiot

i feel bad for him, but if he was really in some deep shit, he would be halfway across the country by now
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It's not that simple holy. This was not his fault, just an unforunate situation that happened to bite him in the ass.
 
Mac173 said:
I'm not gonna get into details, but lets say a "friend" of mine was recently busted w/ possesion of anabolic androgenic steroids. It doesn't really matter how, it was just some bad luck and some unfortunate events. LE says that if he is willing to cooperate then he may get off, and by cooperate he means sources, sites and addy's. He says absolutely not. But then he gets to thinking, what if he handed over addys of only busted labs or scammer websites? He could come up w/ enough to keep them running around in circles for a year. He would rather go to jail than jeopordize in anyway any source that is actually legit and still running.

Give me some advice for my "freind" bros.
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Dude cops lie, I was in a situation with the cops no drugs or alcohol kinda a messed up story that I don't want to get into, but even though I didn't do anything wrong and told them the truth they told me at the time that nothing was going to happen to me and I probably would just walk out of there with nothing. BULLSHIT! Thats all I have to say, luckily the lawyer I hired was the mentor to the Prosecutor. They tried to throw me under the bus. I ended up with just community service when I should've had nothing cuz NO LAWS were even broken. Never talk to cops without a lawyer present. Plain and simple, and don't tell them shit. Even labs that were busted. F-Them! If he was busted and just a user he won't be in too much trouble, but if he's dealing it could be a problem.
 
Mac173 said:
They had no search warrant either. They were in the house due to something totally unrelated and happened to stumble upon the anabolic androgenic steroids.
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Dude thats awesome tell him not to say a word, no busted labs are nothing. Without a search warrant he's pretty much safe cuz they can't use that in a court of law. If they were smart they would've found it and then got a search warrant and came back, thats the only way. They can't bring his stuff in as evidence thats why they are calling him and trying to get him to incriminate himself. HE SHOULD SAY NOTHING AT ALL, again unless a lawyer is present. Legally they can't use the shit that they found, it was an illegal search and seizure.
 
Bro..all he has to do is say he knows nothing about it and it is not his, doesnt know how it got there, especially if he wasnt even there when they seized it.....etc.etc., unless he has already cracked and said it was his then hes got a problem, im no attorney but I am pretty versed on the law... been retired for 2 yrs now and was on the job for 20............fl2tn
 
Trendsetter21 said:
Dude thats awesome tell him not to say a word, no busted labs are nothing. Without a search warrant he's pretty much safe cuz they can't use that in a court of law. If they were smart they would've found it and then got a search warrant and came back, thats the only way. They can't bring his stuff in as evidence thats why they are calling him and trying to get him to incriminate himself. HE SHOULD SAY NOTHING AT ALL, again unless a lawyer is present. Legally they can't use the shit that they found, it was an illegal search and seizure.
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He knows not to say anything without a lawyer present. His conversation w/ LE was no more than 2-3 minutes. They only thing that they asked him was if he put it under his tongue, mainlined it or injected it. After that it was just asking for cooperation to bust other people. He immediately said absolutely not and his hand was shaken and he was shown to the door.
 
fla2tn said:
Bro..all he has to do is say he knows nothing about it and it is not his, doesnt know how it got there, especially if he wasnt even there when they seized it.....etc.etc., unless he has already cracked and said it was his then hes got a problem, im no attorney but I am pretty versed on the law... been retired for 2 yrs now and was on the job for 20............fl2tn
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It was found in his dresser though. The only thing w/ saying it wasn't his is that that means it was someone elses in the house or he is dealing. What about if he was holding it for someone else. Which is actually the truth, but he would never say who though.
 
well i dont think he is an any trouble at all i think they were just trying to scare him into names or a conviction on him which if what u said is true then he has absolutely nothing to worry about
 
I am being trivial because My name went down in that bust too

I just moved back to MX , no skin off my back

Im inviting you and your friend down here, If you guys want to crach

for a few days and have some beers pm me
 
LB55 said:
well i dont think he is an any trouble at all i think they were just trying to scare him into names or a conviction on him which if what u said is true then he has absolutely nothing to worry about
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How sure are you about this? Not doubting you just want to make sure.
 
holy ghost said:
I am being trivial because My name went down in that bust too

I just moved back to MX , no skin off my back

Im inviting you and your friend down here, If you guys want to crach

for a few days and have some beers pm me
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Sorry to hear that. No conviction of any type though right?
 
holy ghost said:
Allegations

no convictions yet!

I did 8 months for importing steroids bro, Just got out mar 2007
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Damn that sucks. Sorry to hear that. No concictions but you did 8 months.
 
No I volunatirly turned myself In with about 50 bottles of stallion strapped to meself

OF COURSE I GOT CONVICTED FOR THAT LMAO

im taking about for ORD
 
Bro......possession is still 9/10th's of the law, you have to remember this, plus assumptions are all they can go on, stop being so paranoid , if all you said is true dont sweat it, they wont think about someone else in the house or anything like that, or dealing, or any other bullshit like that, and im hoping he didnt say he was holding it for someone else, because remember what i said at the beginning............9/10th's of the law,its not his,doesnt know how it got there,and they must be crazy"i dont do that shit" theres all the right answers bro.................fla2tn
 
hey i have g2g, but just make sure he confides with his lawyer before he SPEAKS at ALL bro!!! they will fuck you every angle!
 
fla2tn said:
Bro......possession is still 9/10th's of the law, you have to remember this, plus assumptions are all they can go on, stop being so paranoid , if all you said is true dont sweat it, they wont think about someone else in the house or anything like that, or dealing, or any other bullshit like that, and im hoping he didnt say he was holding it for someone else, because remember what i said at the beginning............9/10th's of the law,its not his,doesnt know how it got there,and they must be crazy"i dont do that shit" theres all the right answers bro.................fla2tn
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No he didn't say they were for anybody else. Thanks for the advice bro.
 
holy ghost said:
hey i have g2g, but just make sure he confides with his lawyer before he SPEAKS at ALL bro!!! they will fuck you every angle!
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No doubt, they will everytime.
 
iceman7230 said:
They are gonna try and scare him with 10 years in prison but they always use the scare tactics in order to get information.

Hope everything goes alright man.
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iceman so right here. they gonna try 2 scare your friend into believing its "life" or something crazy. my best advice is 2 find a friend, or a friend of a friend, or a damn cousin of a friend of a lawyer & find out what the laws are in your state regarding sentencing. its probably got something 2 do with whether or not they (le) say he was source or personal use. I could be wrong but its that way in FL & GA. Good luck. Stick by him & be supportive.
and remember what Jimmy says in Goodfellas: "you learned the 2 most important things in life; never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut".
 
kidd73 said:
iceman so right here. they gonna try 2 scare your friend into believing its "life" or something crazy. my best advice is 2 find a friend, or a friend of a friend, or a damn cousin of a friend of a lawyer & find out what the laws are in your state regarding sentencing. its probably got something 2 do with whether or not they (le) say he was source or personal use. I could be wrong but its that way in FL & GA. Good luck. Stick by him & be supportive.
and remember what Jimmy says in Goodfellas: "you learned the 2 most important things in life; never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut".
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He would do life before he did that. I'm pretty sure at this point its mainly scare tactics.
 
the reason im so confident on this is because i have had similar experiences and it shouldnt be a problem for your friend long as he plays it smart and dont talk to any one but lawyer
 
LB55 said:
the reason im so confident on this is because i have had similar experiences and it shouldnt be a problem for your friend long as he plays it smart and dont talk to any one but lawyer
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That's good to hear. So nothing happened w/ your situation.
 
gslben said:
Cool, I know you and I live near each other that's why I was asking. Needto/Acela and a few others do too for that matter.

Best of luck to your "friend"
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good lookin out mang :artist:
 
gslben said:
Can you give us a LITTLE detail i.e. a scenario for how he may have been busted?
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Let's put it this way. One individual comes home and finds another passed out and calls 911. Cops and paramedics show up and start looking for anything that may give clue to the cause of the OD. Individual is still alive but not coherent. While searching they find the stash of the third individual who is not currently there. Now they want to charge the third individual w/ possession.
 
fla2tn said:
LE would need a search warrant to go in that dresser, even if the LE was there on a call i.e.(domestic....911..etc.etc.)if the LE was there for some reason even if he was called, he cant just go looking thru dressers and such unless he was given permission to do so , if he did and found the stash all he can do is seize it.....no charge, they will try to get as much info as possible and make you (your friend) try to cop to it, the best reply is he doesnt know whos it is, or how it got there and an attorney wouldnt be a bad idea either, depending on the circumstances........good luck......fla2tn
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If they were there looking for something else that could be hidden in the dresser they can use it. They dont have to have a search warrent if he consented to let them look. if he let them in and gave them the Ok to search then they can use whatever tehy find.
 
Mac173 said:
That's what I was thinking. I'm no lawyer, but w/ out a warrant I don't see how that would ever stand up. I'll put it this way, they were in the house for a medical emergency along w/ the peremedics (the emergency had nothing to do w/ steroids) but they started searching and found his stuff. He was not there and had no idea that this was happening. Now they want to charge him w/ possession.
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What kind of emergency?

if this is the case tell him to get a lawyer.
 
Mac173 said:
Let's put it this way. One individual comes home and finds another passed out and calls 911. Cops and paramedics show up and start looking for anything that may give clue to the cause of the OD. Individual is still alive but not coherent. While searching they find the stash of the third individual who is not currently there. Now they want to charge the third individual w/ possession.
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he was pased out? The medics look for probable causes as to why one is passed out. they can go through your draws and stuff to see if there are any drugs that may have caused this. this type of info is very useful in the ER. They went through, found it and showed the cops. I am not a lawyer but they discovered the stuff looking for a probable cause of the person being passed out.

not sure how it will stand up in court especially if there are many roomies. he needs to lawyer up. Just my opinion MAC coming from someone who deals with "pt found down" calls on a daily basis. medics say they searched the house for any drugs and found such and such or found nothing.
 
errn247 said:
he was pased out? The medics look for probable causes as to why one is passed out. they can go through your draws and stuff to see if there are any drugs that may have caused this. this type of info is very useful in the ER. They went through, found it and showed the cops. I am not a lawyer but they discovered the stuff looking for a probable cause of the person being passed out.

not sure how it will stand up in court especially if there are many roomies. he needs to lawyer up. Just my opinion MAC coming from someone who deals with "pt found down" calls on a daily basis. medics say they searched the house for any drugs and found such and such or found nothing.
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The individual was passed out due to an OD on RX meds. He never consented to the search obviously due to his state. Another member of the household called 911 and that's when the search was innitiated. There was no consent by anyone, they searched w/ out request.
 
Yea but teh medics dont have to have a search warrant. i am not 100% on this mac so dont quote me, but from my experience they have the right to look for what the drugs may be. it helps on the other end come up with the best treatment diagnosis. Was the guy passed out in his bed room?

I honeslty thing if the have probable cause to search they can. This may be a stretch of the law but by calling 911 you are giving both medics and the police permission to enter your house. like i said he needs to lawyer up. No one here unless they have a law degree can give good solid advice.

Maybe the guy that was a cop on this thread can chime in and respond to what i said.
 
i got busted afew years ago for dwi and had a bottle of test in the car and they treated it like nothing. only spent 16 days in jail for the dwi and possession combined
 
errn247 said:
Yea but teh medics dont have to have a search warrant. i am not 100% on this mac so dont quote me, but from my experience they have the right to look for what the drugs may be. it helps on the other end come up with the best treatment diagnosis. Was the guy passed out in his bed room?

I honeslty thing if the have probable cause to search they can. This may be a stretch of the law but by calling 911 you are giving both medics and the police permission to enter your house. like i said he needs to lawyer up. No one here unless they have a law degree can give good solid advice.

Maybe the guy that was a cop on this thread can chime in and respond to what i said.
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He was in his bedroom. The officer found the gear not the medics.
 
Mac173 said:
He was in his bedroom. The officer found the gear not the medics.
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then here's what he does.....keeps his mouth shut...only talk to an attorney if needed. cops don't make deals, they fuck you, that's all, always have, always will. the fuckers always look for something to make them look like fuckin' heroes, if only for a few hours of glory. cocksuckers.
 
he needs to keep his mouth shut and lawyer up
 
ill email cracker and ask him. he seemed to know the law
 
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