natty gyno, how to lose it

[a-bomb83]

ok, let me give you a picture of what i look like, to help you guys help me out a lil better. i'm 5'10" 185lbs 21%bf. 16"bis 44"chest decent "v" taper to my back. i have decent sized love handles, nothin i'm ashamed of on the beach, but at the same time, i don't want em there. i had a question. when i flex my chest, the upper and mid part are hard, but around my nipples its soft, i can litteraly push it in its so soft. and when my nips are tweaked there about the size of a dime, when not maybe a lil smaller than a quarter. now do you think that simoutaniously (sp) taking trex, yohimburn directly on the nips and the surrounding area and taking nolvadex 40mg/day for 1 week, then 3 weeks of 20mg/day would pretty much do away with that for good??? i hope so, cuz i don't look that bad when my nips are cold, but when there normal, they tend to have a v taper, and thats not cool. thanx for any help bros,

a-bomb

 

[IHateCrunches]

a-bomg the sad things is i have the same problem and trying to get the same type of question answered and what i have come up with is taking yohimburn and bromo. You opted totake nolvadex.. but i think i might try the bromo

 

[ArnoldColeman]

ok, let me give you a picture of what i look like, to help you guys help me out a lil better. i'm 5'10" 185lbs 21%bf. 16"bis 44"chest decent "v" taper to my back. i have decent sized love handles, nothin i'm ashamed of on the beach, but at the same time, i don't want em there. i had a question. when i flex my chest, the upper and mid part are hard, but around my nipples its soft, i can litteraly push it in its so soft. and when my nips are tweaked there about the size of a dime, when not maybe a lil smaller than a quarter. now do you think that simoutaniously (sp) taking trex, yohimburn directly on the nips and the surrounding area and taking nolvadex 40mg/day for 1 week, then 3 weeks of 20mg/day would pretty much do away with that for good??? i hope so, cuz i don't look that bad when my nips are cold, but when there normal, they tend to have a v taper, and thats not cool. thanx for any help bros,

a-bomb

if you got the funds...surgery will fix it for sure!

 

[calveless wonder]

Are there lumps? or just puffy nipples? If no lumps you dont needa nolva

I'm doing yohimburn DF /t-rex/clen with 40 mg's of nolvadex right now and i can say in a short time they've gone down dramatically, mostly fat and some hard tissue. Alot of people say to be on the nolva for up to 3 months....i'll see what size they are when it comes to that point...but its a good stack overall.
You';l definetely see an improvement with that unless its prolactin related.

in that case you'd need to get some bromo. That is exactly what am i considering if it doesn't resolve the issue.

and of course...surgery is the last option.

 

[glennds]

before reading arnold's post about surgery i was thinking the same thing. it does not sound logical that this type of thing could be improved with steroids or medications. but i have been wrong before.

this reminds me of a recent episode of "Nip/Tuck," the cool new series on FX. there was a guy who went to see the plastic surgeons about fixing his "bitch tits." they were really disturbing looking. there is a proper medical term for this condition but the name escapes me.

apparently this is a very painful, expensive operation and the patient has to wear some sort of bra for several weeks.

 

[calveless wonder]

before reading arnold's post about surgery i was thinking the same thing. it does not sound logical that this type of thing could be improved with steroids or medications. but i have been wrong before.

this reminds me of a recent episode of "Nip/Tuck," the cool new series on FX. there was a guy who went to see the plastic surgeons about fixing his "bitch tits." they were really disturbing looking. there is a proper medical term for this condition but the name escapes me.

apparently this is a very painful operation and the patient has to wear some sort of bra for several weeks.

No, it definetely can be improved and sometimes cured completely. lots of guys on the board have lessened/eliminated their gyno with extended nolva/liquidex/bromo in combination with dieting. surgery is a great option if insurance pays for it or if you have the money.

and btw...its not painful at all. i know several people who've gotten the operation before and had no pain whatsoever, just a little post surgery soreness. also, the bra you're speaking of is simply a compression vest to tighten up the skin. Its not that bad unless its summertime and you live in somewhere like SoCal or South florida

 

[chewyxrage]

Puffy nips could hardly be considered bitch tits.
People with low bodyfat and great pecs can still have puffy nips.
I don't think the surgery would be as extreme as some dude getting a pound of fat out of each bitch titty

 

[c3ntrifug3]

Gyno is generally characterized by harder lumps under your nipples. I'd bet 5 bucks that what you're experiencing is just subdermal fat.

 

[ceo]

Gynecomastia (to simplify this...gyneco=female; mastia=breasts...thus the slang "bitch tits").

What you have doesn't "sound" like gynecomastia to me...however, I may not have enough info. to make a proper diagnosis. Consult your physician, even then he/she may not be able to tell you for certain.

I've had 2 surgeries. Came back both times. 2nd surgery I developed complications post-op. I had a hematoma (internal bleeding) and my left breast looked like someone shoved a baseball under the skin.

The surgeon was an idiot and told me to put a heating pad on it day and night. I was a bigger idiot for listening to him, instead of demanding he drain it. One night it burst. I woke up hot and "sweaty" and had to go pee. When I went into the bathroom and was peeing my "sweat" felt sticky...I looked down and had blood all over my left side, arm, back, ass and leg.

I went in the next morning and he pushed out the rest of the coagulated blood. It looked like dark grape jelly and made a nice farting sound as it was squeezed out of my chest.

After a while (year maybe) the gyno started slowly growing back...again. 4 years after the 2nd surgery, it was absolutely unbearably painful to any touch and was about 2 inches in diameter.

At this point I self-medicated with Nolvadex (tamoxifen) at 60mg a day in divided doses of 20mg 3 times daily. The gyno began feeling better after a few weeks (~3-6) and began disappearing (getting smaller). I continued the course for approx. 4 months and my gyno had completely disappeared and has not returned since.

A course of tamoxifen at 40-60mg daily in divided doses approximately every 7 hours should be ran for 3-4 months (4 is better). This, according to studies has about an 80% probability of reducing or eliminating your gynecomastia (although in the study they used 20-40mg and ran the course for 3 months).

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic934.htm

 

[Boss Ballin]

get yourself down to around 8-10% BF

use yohimburn DF and try nolva like you are doing

if they're still there, have surgery

I had the surgery done about 6 months ago for the exact same description you gave.. natural gyno too. the surgery is so simple, and the best decision i've ever made, and teh scars are invisible.