My winter bulker

[joeljuice]

Ok i am 23 yrs old guy lifted enough and have had cycles before. Currently i am 23 220lbs 6'1 bf is like 15%.

here is the cycle

1-10 cyp 1250mg
1-10 eq 800mg
1-6 dbol 50ed
7-12 tren 60ed
11-12 prop 100 ed
1-12 arimidex 0,5ed
13-15 clomid
16-24 dbol bridge 10am

or

1-10 cyp 1250mg
1-10 eq 800mg
1-2 anadrol 100ed
3-6 dbol 50ed
7-12 tren 60ed
11-12 prop 100 ed
1-12 arimidex
13-15 clomid
16-24 dbol bridge 10am

For hair finasteride 1.25mged and nizoral ed

those are all chinese stuff so i wanna take little higher doses. I might get testoviron depots, somekind sustanons, anapolan and thai's. But i may take all from china.

I have been thinking of taking anadrol 100mg ed for 2-3 weeks and then continue with 50mg ed dbol, what dou think guys?

My goals are to gain as much as possible and offcoruse i try not be too fat/bloated. 15-20lbs muscle would be awesome and 40lbs increase to bench.

And what about those chinese products? i think that they should work well. Finnish bodybulding competitors use them and are happy with em.

 

[joeljuice]

bump

 

[joeljuice]

come on bro's! some critique is welcome!

 

[B-legit]

I like the first cycle (and will do a similar cycle - the prop). I also like the first cycle better because i have never tried a-bombs so i wouldn't know what diff. to expect. Good luck!!!

 

[Warmachine]

<sigh> why do you think you need so much juice? Do you realize you could gain 15-20 lbs of any ONE of the parts of your cycle?

Take a step back, stay clean for a 3-4 monthes and work hard. Then use half a gram of test a week for 8-10 weeks.

I dont mean to insult you, im just trying to help

you could have got to your current size without juice but probobly(like me) wanted it sooner. thats alright, i made the same decisiion. However, dont let the drugs do the work. Use small amounts till you cant gain anymore, then add more.

just think how much money you could save doing "small" cycles

 

[Stryker1992]

<sigh> why do you think you need so much juice? Do you realize you could gain 15-20 lbs of any ONE of the parts of your cycle?

Take a step back, stay clean for a 3-4 monthes and work hard. Then use half a gram of test a week for 8-10 weeks.

I dont mean to insult you, im just trying to help

you could have got to your current size without juice but probobly(like me) wanted it sooner. thats alright, i made the same decisiion. However, dont let the drugs do the work. Use small amounts till you cant gain anymore, then add more.

just think how much money you could save doing "small" cycles

I could not agree more. Everyone is overdosing lately. That is a lot of juice for a very long time. You will probably get huge but you will lose your gains (therefore your money) shortly after and then you will get depressed and start your next cycle way too soon.

 

[IronFist]

Go with the first one but extend the fina and prop out another week...

And, for you guys complaining about the doses, he's using sub-par gear which in my opinion is less effective and accurate than vet gear. Also, you have no idea what his prior cycles were, what the doses were, or how his body responds to gear...

 

[guards]

<sigh> why do you think you need so much juice? Do you realize you could gain 15-20 lbs of any ONE of the parts of your cycle?

Take a step back, stay clean for a 3-4 monthes and work hard. Then use half a gram of test a week for 8-10 weeks.

I dont mean to insult you, im just trying to help

you could have got to your current size without juice but probobly(like me) wanted it sooner. thats alright, i made the same decisiion. However, dont let the drugs do the work. Use small amounts till you cant gain anymore, then add more.

just think how much money you could save doing "small" cycles

EXACTLY!!!!!


You are using gear as the solution instead of the tool that it should be.

 

[t48]

I also agree. What's fun is finding out just how much you can accomplish with little to moderate dosages. Start out with a combination of two, such as cyp and eq. Then see what happens. If you have that much on hand then you have enough for some good future cycles (with breaks in between.) You're smart to think of the anti-est's so that tells me you've done some research.
Bodybuilders tend to use the "if little is good, more is better approach." Sometimes that can bite you in the butt.

 

[AlPhASiLvErBaCk]

dude, i just gained 15 pounds in 2 weeks on 100mg of prop every other day, i've also juiced before(twice)i'm also 23,220,15% bf, so either i'm responding really well to the sauce, or this is proof u don't need that much shit bro, i'd say cut it in half, or just start diggin your grave right now.

 

[GENETIC_FREAK]

IronFist Go with the first one but extend the fina and prop out another week...

And, for you guys complaining about the doses, he's using sub-par gear which in my opinion is less effective and accurate than vet gear. Also, you have no idea what his prior cycles were, what the doses were, or how his body responds to gear...

LOL the guy is 23 and using 2400mg/week. I guess when he is 25 he will be over 5gms weekly. If his body responds slow to gear then he had better plan on growing slow.......Liver failor is a horrible way to die.
Joel: your only 23 and big. 1/3 the dose with the right diet and you can be 250 by 25 and leaner-----------stay safe---Freak

 

[gunslinger11]

i really like the second cycle bro, if you are experianced with gear. however if i were you id cut the cype dose in half and use the tren from week 2-9. good luck you should no problem gaining 20lbs and you will easily put more than 40lbs on your bench(ive honestly heard of people putting that on with 3 weeks of anadrol).

 

[joeljuice]

Well bro's u might be right that my doses are little too high, but i have used gram test before and 50mg dbol ed. The only reason why i take ip's eq 800mg week is that i hear it is little underdosed. I think it is closer to 600 than 800mg, i could be wrong though. I really would wanna try that anadrol, because i wanna have that massive strenght gain. Some people say that anadrol affects negatively to ur gains. I mean that after u stop taking it, other gears wont work anymore. Anyone had experience of this?

Cycle history:

1-8 500mg testex cyp
1-2 600 mg norma deca
3-8 400 mg norma deca
1-2 50ed russia prop
arimiedx 0,5 eod 1-8

I gained about 20lbs and good nice strenght gains, but i think testex is way too slow...took 5-6 week to get kick from it.

1-6 virormone prop 100ed
1-4 thai dbol 40ed

I gained huge 30lbs and strenght gains were out standing!!! My best cycle so far. Bad thing is that i lost almost all gains post cycle because i had diarrhea and i was sick for 3 weeks.

1-8 testen 750mg
1-6 russian dbol 50ed
8-11 winny 50ed
8-11 prop 100ed

This cycle gaved me back those results i had with earlier cycle and i was able to bring down my bf at the end of cycle with clen and eca. I had fever and very nasty pains from testen 250. I will not use that shit anymore.

1-9 testex cyp 1000mg
1-4 thai's 50ed 1-4
tren 80ed 6-11
prop 100ed 10-11
proviron 50ed 1-10
this cycle was ok. thais gaved me awesome sterngh gains again, but i didnt get the results i wanted from testex. I did stop this cycle at week 9 because i broked my finger and hurted my shouler so i couldnt train enough hard.

Thats about my cycle history... I have had little bad luck.