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The_Eviscerator
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CYCLEON said:
In other words, since we can't get our slimy hands on the money that people spend on these "underground steroids" that means that they are all bad and will kill you instantaneously. What a crock of shit.
My vote for #1 loser dr of the year goes to:
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In other words, since we can't get our slimy hands on the money that people spend on these "underground steroids" that means that they are all bad and will kill you instantaneously. What a crock of shit.
MuSuLPhReAk
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thegame65_ve
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Hmmm...of those same 8th and 10th graders I wonder what percentage drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes and weed?! If parents would take the time to sit their kids down and educate them (and themselves) about the pros and cons of using these drugs life would be much easier for us all and we would not need the government to keep us in a headlock.
CYCLEON
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whats perhaps even more scary is this idiot thinks that prohormones work and therefore should be "controlled" by big brother - while the dea knows for sure that they dont and thats why they dont give a rats behind.
while asprin is OTC and kills more than 100 people per year, ever heard of anyone dying from prohormones
this genius would likely give the big pharmacuetical companies complete control over our lives and everything we eat "ohhhhh, big brotehr hasnt approved of that yet so its daaaannnnggggerous. wait till next year when the pharm co gets a local patent on it and can charge u 10x as much and then it will be good for you."
Creatine
Damn, I may have to get a dialysis machine. I have done a couple of 8 week cycles of creatine.
What complete and utter bullshit. Fuck them, fuck the doctor with a steel dildo up the ass sideways.
Heaven for-fucking-bid I might take something that a doctor does not approve of. Shit I might die right then and there. Hell, Baycol was approved and it damn near killed my uncle. He got home from the hospital on the day they pulled it. And they certainly had tested and gotten their money for this "safe, government tested and controlled" substance.
Damn, I may have to get a dialysis machine. I have done a couple of 8 week cycles of creatine.
What complete and utter bullshit. Fuck them, fuck the doctor with a steel dildo up the ass sideways.
Heaven for-fucking-bid I might take something that a doctor does not approve of. Shit I might die right then and there. Hell, Baycol was approved and it damn near killed my uncle. He got home from the hospital on the day they pulled it. And they certainly had tested and gotten their money for this "safe, government tested and controlled" substance.
CYCLEON
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amaf - DO NOT SPEAK ABOUT THINGS YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR WE WILL HAVE YOUR CURRENT NAME BOOTED OFF AS WELL!!!! - creatine has not been shown to cause kidney/renal failure in anyone. - some geniouses like urself and the DR above jump to conclusions too easily - creatine can disguise kidney problems (due to a seemingly normal amount of creatinine excretion in the urine) but IT DOES NOT CAUSE IT!!!
Another misguided, alarmist that hasn't a clue of the facts. These guys are a dime a dozen, find them in any clinical setting. They cause more harm than good with their alarmist rhetoric and further erode what little credibility the medical community has left in the world of ergogenic aids.
His statement regarding AAS, "They pose greater health risks because they are not regulated by the government and may not be pure or labeled correctly" has some truth to it. But on the other hand, if it weren't for the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, Ttokkyo and others wouldn't exist today, the quality of Mexican vet steroids would still be less than shit, d-bol, tren, T-400, 10 mg Winny tabs and paper products, etc. and soon Primo would be scarce or non-existent and everyone would be paying $12 a tab for A-50, $4 a tab for a 2.5 mg oxandrolone tab and $60 for 5 cc of test enanthate at American pharmacies. In addition, there'd be a ton of fake US shit out there because its easy to counterfeit and cost effective to do so. Aside from some good bros getting busted for a few hundred tabs of D-bol these days, the Anabolic Steroid Control Act was a blessing in disguise for steroid users and even one of the top advisors to the DOJ on ergogenic drugs acknowledges that making AAS controlled substances in 1990 was a mistake. I doubt if the laws will ever change, but I also think that this will further strengthen the steroid black market and the production of decent quality, high potency AAS from numerous vet and underground labs throughout the world.
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His statement regarding AAS, "They pose greater health risks because they are not regulated by the government and may not be pure or labeled correctly" has some truth to it. But on the other hand, if it weren't for the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, Ttokkyo and others wouldn't exist today, the quality of Mexican vet steroids would still be less than shit, d-bol, tren, T-400, 10 mg Winny tabs and paper products, etc. and soon Primo would be scarce or non-existent and everyone would be paying $12 a tab for A-50, $4 a tab for a 2.5 mg oxandrolone tab and $60 for 5 cc of test enanthate at American pharmacies. In addition, there'd be a ton of fake US shit out there because its easy to counterfeit and cost effective to do so. Aside from some good bros getting busted for a few hundred tabs of D-bol these days, the Anabolic Steroid Control Act was a blessing in disguise for steroid users and even one of the top advisors to the DOJ on ergogenic drugs acknowledges that making AAS controlled substances in 1990 was a mistake. I doubt if the laws will ever change, but I also think that this will further strengthen the steroid black market and the production of decent quality, high potency AAS from numerous vet and underground labs throughout the world.
W6
Let people live their fucking lives!
Lots of people smoke and drink. If you can do your drug, why can't I do mine? I should have the right to put into my body whatever the hell I want to.
Have you ever heard of a guy who shoots some test, get in his car, then crashes and kills some people. Think about it.
Lots of people smoke and drink. If you can do your drug, why can't I do mine? I should have the right to put into my body whatever the hell I want to.
Have you ever heard of a guy who shoots some test, get in his car, then crashes and kills some people. Think about it.
I agree with what all of you are saying, but...
we can't assume that we know anything. Anyone can set up a research and prove whatever the fuck they want to prove. Creatine is probably not a dangerous supp, but when you are using excessive amounts, who knows what damage it can do.
we can't assume that we know anything. Anyone can set up a research and prove whatever the fuck they want to prove. Creatine is probably not a dangerous supp, but when you are using excessive amounts, who knows what damage it can do.
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