My up coming dbol/test run

[Jack steel]

So I have been on a low does of test for a little while now. I've been pinning 125mg of test E once a week and I've been loving it. My plasma levels are sitting around 250 mg peaked right now. In about 1 week I will be starting my first Dbol cycle. I'm getting venom capsules so I'll have to run it at 50mg a day. Normally I'm a lower is better kind of person, but I think with my receptors' androgen experience lately, starting out max dose seems like a good idea... Especially since I'm looking for 10 more pounds by July. I'll be doing about 6 weeks of 50mg Ed, and I think I will lower the test dose a tiny bit more just to really see the results from the dbol.
As soon as dbol is done, I'll immediately start 200mg of masteron E a week. Max size... Max shred. My only question is: should I use aromasin to help be more dry on dbol, or is 20pumps of forma Ed enough? Experienced users only please suggestions welcome.

 

[bigbassturd]

Why wouldn't you start the mast from day one with dbol? As soon as the dbol is over (assuming you are being smart and running 4 weeks) the mast will just be kicking in....

Masteron also has AI properties to help with water, but I would stash the forma for later and use aromasin at 12.6 eod at least while on the dbol

 

[Jack steel]

Thanks big bass I guess I didn't think of that! Yeah i guess using it ass a kick start would be my efficient. I guess I just wanted to see clear difference while running both completely separate but now that you mention it, it would take down time off of the cycle which is good because I aim to compete in July. Thanks for the aromasin suggestion. I'm going to try out mpresearchsupplies' exemistane caps hopefully. Anyone had experience with mp aromasin?

 

[bigbassturd]

I have used it and liked it, only thing of theirs I am skeptical of is the caber

 

[Jack steel]

Great to hear. I'm skeptical about anyone's cabergoline after getting dooped by gwp last time. Ya never know.

 

[digit0x]

Great to hear. I'm skeptical about anyone's cabergoline after getting dooped by gwp last time. Ya never know.

Really? Damn man, I have used them in the past, so far so good but that sucks to hear. I'm going out on a limb for some caber myself but I've got some prami already in hand. Mind if I ask how you know it was bunk?

 

[Jack steel]

Well I used it for a week on tren and Gyno and sex drive issues never changed. It may have been very underdosed but definitely didn't do the job. Then I got chemical need prami and. Problems both stopped within a few days.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

The quality or the dosing of dostinex was probably the issue, as you should have seen results from using it with trenbolone. As far as an AI, you'll need a good AI during your cycle, stick with ED aromasin or arimidex.

 

[bonacris]

Well I used it for a week on tren and Gyno and sex drive issues never changed. It may have been very underdosed but definitely didn't do the job. Then I got chemical need prami and. Problems both stopped within a few days.

How was the prami for sides, nausea etc

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[meathead96]

Yeah I would start the mast from day one as stated above. If it were me I would use aromasin with that dose of dbol but I am sensitve to estrogen and gyno will flare fast. It really just depends on the person. I would def keep and eye on blood pressure. Yeah I don't trust any research chem caber. Only will use pharm grade now. I'm using prami right now as I'm waiting for some caber to come. Sides can suck, for me I get insomnia so I dose in morning and afternoon. Twice a day is good because of how short the half life is. I start low and work my way up. Right now I do .5 in the morning and .25 in the afternoon. I always take it after a meal or I get sick. For me if I work my way up on dosing and take it with meals earlier in the day I don't have any sides to speak of.

 

[biesel13]

So I have been on a low does of test for a little while now. I've been pinning 125mg of test E once a week and I've been loving it. My plasma levels are sitting around 250 mg peaked right now. In about 1 week I will be starting my first Dbol cycle. I'm getting venom capsules so I'll have to run it at 50mg a day. Normally I'm a lower is better kind of person, but I think with my receptors' androgen experience lately, starting out max dose seems like a good idea... Especially since I'm looking for 10 more pounds by July. I'll be doing about 6 weeks of 50mg Ed, and I think I will lower the test dose a tiny bit more just to really see the results from the dbol.
As soon as dbol is done, I'll immediately start 200mg of masteron E a week. Max size... Max shred. My only question is: should I use aromasin to help be more dry on dbol, or is 20pumps of forma Ed enough? Experienced users only please suggestions welcome.

Glad to know you def got dbol this time haha. Not gonna run the trans winny along with mast to end it off bro?

 

[Jack steel]

The quality or the dosing of dostinex was probably the issue, as you should have seen results from using it with trenbolone. As far as an AI, you'll need a good AI during your cycle, stick with ED aromasin or arimidex.

Using mpresearch aromasin. So far so good. I've heard good things as well. On day 3 now.

 

[Jack steel]

How was the prami for sides, nausea etc

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Quality was great. Seemed accurately dosed. Definitely strong enough. I didn't get much nausea from it. Took it before bed. Also smoke a little pot so I don't get nauseated much lol it knocked out side effects quickly.

 

[Jack steel]

Glad to know you def got dbol this time haha. Not gonna run the trans winny along with mast to end it off bro?

Funny you mention that lol. I'm thinking about doing the winny, yes. I'll dry as a bone, I know that much! I really hope that dbol isn't total water gains. I've been looking at pubmed studies and some of it suggests it is. So do a lot of people, but then again I don't remember how long the study was conducted or what the subjects ate... So muscle mass isn't necessarily going to be portrayed there. Anyway... I brought that up because I'm just thinking out loud about how long I want to make this bulk. I don't want to start cutting too early. Still in the air. I won't update here anymore but I'm logging a little bit in my other thead. Just FYI.

 

[Jack steel]

Funny you mention that lol. I'm thinking about doing the winny, yes. I'll dry as a bone, I know that much! I really hope that dbol isn't total water gains. I've been looking at pubmed studies and some of it suggests it is. So do a lot of people, but then again I don't remember how long the study was conducted or what the subjects ate... So muscle mass isn't necessarily going to be portrayed there. Anyway... I brought that up because I'm just thinking out loud about how long I want to make this bulk. I don't want to start cutting too early. Still in the air. I won't update here anymore but I'm logging a little bit in my other thead. Just FYI.

For the record I haven't gained any water so far either. Not sure if that's the Aromasin yet or what.

 

[biesel13]

Funny you mention that lol. I'm thinking about doing the winny, yes. I'll dry as a bone, I know that much! I really hope that dbol isn't total water gains. I've been looking at pubmed studies and some of it suggests it is. So do a lot of people, but then again I don't remember how long the study was conducted or what the subjects ate... So muscle mass isn't necessarily going to be portrayed there. Anyway... I brought that up because I'm just thinking out loud about how long I want to make this bulk. I don't want to start cutting too early. Still in the air. I won't update here anymore but I'm logging a little bit in my other thead. Just FYI.

Got ya. Yea some people say all gains are lost post cycle, meaning you basically piss out all the water you held onto, but others say when you run an AI and have a great diet, it's comparable to SD. I personally find it hard to believe since SD is just ridiculous, but I've never touched Dbol. Ill take a look over at your other thread and sub for progress man hope you kill it

 

[bonacris]

It does bloat the hell out of you.. and once that water is gone it can be mentally hard to take but your a not a noob so you know what is muscle and what is water.. I'm goung to run SD next week yonder how they compare for use in future cycles

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