My Quest to COMPETE - BEAT THE DISEASE!

[BiggT]

JK....how's your weekend going, brother? I'd imagine better than mine being OH State won big and Penn St got violated, lol......about your question on deads, if you can progress on both conventional and SLDL, keep going, once something starts to give, I'd sub in GMs for SLDLs and train them progressively and still try to push the DL......you should just simply progress at this point, BUT, we all suffer from the handicap that is called being human, you will stall out at some point, EVRYONE does, how you handle it is what separates the men from the boys....you can take it like a man and tweak and adjust your program and bust through it, or you can freak out and derail everything....when you do slow down, there is a way through it, so just stay focused on the big picture, which is to keep getting better.

 

[BiggT]

Thanks for the long thread bro....Its totally mental and I attribute 99% of it to finding the internet and these bb boards....The big difference between me and the others as I was too once 245ish and sub 12%, stong and looked good...didnt know shit about nutrition and lived the active college football life. Then I stumbled into an office where I sit all day, found these boards that say dont eat this past this time and dont eat that with that and thats too many carbs and thats too high of gi etc....seriously.....thats where this whole fucking thing started.

I still look at my abs, still get depressed, still do 20 minutes of a crawl cardio....still feel like shit (feet are numb, ankles swollen) and although I am getting stronger or think I am (maybe I started out too light???) and maybe the scale is all water retention?? There is gonna be a time where I go to the gym like today for legs and cant do what I did last week........let alone beat it. Thats where I will lose it.....

Don't pay any attention to this crap.....the guys spouting off about that crap are typically about 5'10 and a whopping 170lbs soaking wet with a brick in their pocket and don't know the first thing about being either big or strong. They also probably haven't grown an ounce of muscle or progressed a lick in the gym since the Clinton administration, lol.......you're not trying to follow Oprah's average Joe workout.....you were a 250lb middle 'backer, forget about all the crap you read for the average Joe and the Abercrombie crowd.

 

[JKurz1]

Hey BigT - Thanks brutha for everything.....scale I think is stuck at 159, cause that was my weight again today. Did my 20 minutes of light walking even though my calories well carbs, were too low yesterday, and the scale is still in the same spot...I thought it would be down. Oh well, didnt sleep well. Squats were up 5lbs, so each week it's getting better. Today I got chest, but tris are a tad sore...I always start with dbell press, but today I might switch it up to incline barbell press than hit dbell press. So I obviously wont set a new pr this week, but def, shock the muscles. Good idea? You know, I was thinking...I am only getting in about 175g of carbs pretraining....isnt that low? 3 meals of pro/carbs, then my premeal is fats and protein (flank steak and tuna) about 1.5 hours pre......oh well....I need to lose this bloated ass feeling.....lower stomach region makes me feel about 350lbs....

Oh and my ankles and feet are really swollen...is it poor circulation and holding water from the test?? I'm using aimf.....hmmm....

 

[al420]

Hey BigT - Thanks brutha for everything.....scale I think is stuck at 159, cause that was my weight again today. Did my 20 minutes of light walking even though my calories well carbs, were too low yesterday, and the scale is still in the same spot...I thought it would be down. Oh well, didnt sleep well. Squats were up 5lbs, so each week it's getting better. Today I got chest, but tris are a tad sore...I always start with dbell press, but today I might switch it up to incline barbell press than hit dbell press. So I obviously wont set a new pr this week, but def, shock the muscles. Good idea? You know, I was thinking...I am only getting in about 175g of carbs pretraining....isnt that low? 3 meals of pro/carbs, then my premeal is fats and protein (flank steak and tuna) about 1.5 hours pre......oh well....I need to lose this bloated ass feeling.....lower stomach region makes me feel about 350lbs....

Oh and my ankles and feet are really swollen...is it poor circulation and holding water from the test?? I'm using aimf.....hmmm....

As always you are mind fucking it to death bro - just eat and train and wake up when the Test is gone and replan from there. Do what Tony and your trainer telly ou and you will be fine.

I really am hearing improvement in your posts - besides the micro managing of each meal, etc.

I am bulking right now and I agree that the bloated feeling is tough to deal w/. I feel like a fat ass eating 2hrs after I just ate - especially when I am still full!

 

[Bruce]

Jk i am amazed that you are still debating over cardio. you really need to drop it all together my man. i am packing on muscle here and not getting fat at all, no cardio just lots of lean steak and chicken. you don't need cardio till you fill out that XL tee and feel its time to cut down a bit

 

[JKurz1]

Tuesday - Sept. 12th

Well, my weight is skyrocketing........for me anyways....to think I started at a anicpated 140lbs (actually 139 at one point) 2 weeks ago Sunday, today I hit the scale in the exact same attire at 160!!!!!!!! The abs are fading AND I am doing 20 minutes of cardio most every am. It's obviously too light of cardio and I cant imagine my weight if I didn't do it. Abs are really blurry. WOndering if I am holding a ton of water from the cyp, even though it's at 250mg a week. Ankles are swollen by the end of the day.

In other news, all my lifts are going up. 70lbs dbell press wasnt possible two weeks ago because my delts are so weak. I was getting 60s for 8 at the end...yesterday I got 70's with 5 smooth reps and then a little help for 2-3 more...2 sets. I know I am weak but progressing.

BigT - what did we decide on the str8 deads I have today? Wondering if my lower back pain is from deadlifting 2x a week.....should I go higher rep for the deep stretch today? Does that still build mass in the 8-10 range vs the 6 range? I have also been doing 3-4 sets of good ams, higher rep. Looks like this:

HAMS
SEATED CURL 3 X 6-10
LYING CURL 3 X 6-10
DEADS (2 WARMS)
8,8,6,6
HYPERS X 3

CALF
STANDING RAISE
4 x 6 to 10
SEATED RAISE 4 X 10-15

ABS
haning leg raises
cybex runch 3 x 15 to 20 each

He's changing my diet today...just go the email. I think it's gonna be crazy...9 meals! I'll post it later.......

 

[BiggT]

JK, with the SLDls...you can build an area with 8-10 reps, just so long as you're adding to the bar every week.......it is tough after a point to push both SLDL and DL in the same cycle.....I'd try the SLDL lighter and for a stretch and treat it as more isolation and keep hammering the DL heavy and hard as a main staple to the routine. Also, be careful with the GMs, they're tough with SLDL, I'd rather do one or the other and really make it count. Personally (this is just me) I always found GMs to be the superior exercise.

Congrats on the 20lbs gain.....are you starting to feel like your old self again?

 

[blut wump]

Try not to count water weight. Certainly don't count it as fat and then try to account for it by reducing calories. By all means attempt to control it with an AI but, otherwise, try to ignore it since it merely clouds the issue of your bodyweight as well as clouding your abs. Since you have practically no idea how much water you're holding, it really is time to stop worrying about your weight. Check on it every few days to be sure that the general trend is upwards but the scale can tell you very little that's worth knowing at this stage of your cycle.

Forgive me if I've missed something but I'm pretty sure that you were in the 160s in your previous thread.

 

[silver_shadow]

Forgive me if I've missed something but I'm pretty sure that you were in the 160s in your previous thread.

turns out he started at 140

 

[blut wump]

The camera can add 20 pounds. Congrats on your weight gain.