My Proposed Fall Cycle....Your Thoughts?

[NJstacked]

The summer cut went well and I was happy with my progress.....I want to gain the mass back, but do not want it to bring my waist to a 36 again.....Anyway...he is my proposed cycle.....Not to harsh, just very basic....

Weeks 1-10....Sust @ 500mg
1-10....Test Enth @ 200mg once a week
6-12....Fina @ 75mg ed..
Already got the HCG and Clomid for post cycle......

I do not feel like doing the EQ thing and will most likly savee it for cutting to maintain gains along with a little test.........

This is a simple cycle, basic, easy etc...

Diet will be 1/3,1/3,1/3 except I will eat about 3,000 cals....and shoot for 15 solid pounds and keep it all.......I am currently 195 @ 5'10......What are your thoughts????

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I like it very much but do not do HCG post cycle...Use it during to avoid testicular atrophy but Clomid and Clen will do the job post cycle

M18

 

[deppnade]

i think that cycle is for a baby

hey stacked, its almost nyc clubbing time, u should be getting bloated and huge, then january comes u can cut up, thats the fun of it all, do a gram of test, leave the sus out and do some enanthate and or cyp, with the fina and maybe some dbol and low dose deca, then u will factory worthy, i got offered a bouncer job at world, u think it is worth it or u think school time is party time???

anyway, kingwinny says whats up, he wants u to go with him to see me in the hamptons at neptunes

like i said, ur a big boy, its time for big boy doses...

lastly, mustang, why cant u use hcg post cycle??curious

 

[CN1]

I agree, that cycle wont do shit........I myself believe in nothing less than 1000mg of sus and 1000mg of enanthate at the least..........you should add deca, winstrol and some type of oral like halotestin or anadrol, and basically I suggest in not taking each test, each week, take the sust one week and the test enanthate the other week, it will keep your juice supply and you can stretch out the weeks, and plus test enanthate can be taken bi-weekly along with sust, since the esters in sus work at different times.

 

[CN1]

ohh yeah I also think that shit that guys do, you know bulking cycles then switching to a cutting cycle is bullshit, why not just take cutters and test together, whats the use in bulking up then cutting down, unless your doing a contest, I think that is so stupid, if the goal is to get bigger, bulking and cutting is hindering the overall goal of being a huge ripped motherfucker, I myself prefer this kind of stack:

anadrol
winstrol
cypionate
sustanon
deca
eq
fina
halotestin
enanthate: this is a good stack!!!!!!!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

lastly, mustang, why cant u use hcg post cycle??curious

HCG acts as an receptor antagonist and substitutes for LH. HCG will stimulate increases in natural testosterone so it will inhibite LH production so it is not recommended post cycle

M18

 

[HammerHead]

so how does the clen. help out at the end of the cycle and what is bridging?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

so how does the clen. help out at the end of the cycle and what is bridging?

Clen is anti-catabolic and bridging is when you take a low dose of Anavar or Primo to let your HPTA recover while keeping your body in an anabolic state allowing you to keep more of your gains made from a cycle

M18

 

[deppnade]

CN1............i guess thats a good question, why do pros do it that way???

lets say for instance our goal is to be as big and ripped as you can be for memorial day weekend, with training for it starting this september, it is almost like we are training for say an "olympia"

you say to bulk and cut at the same time which basically means u are trying to get as much lean muscle as u can with some or no fat, and if we arent competing then why bulk and cut??

i think that is an easy answer, if my goal is to be as big and shredded as i can be memorial day weekend, then i am going to bulk with high dose test and high dose orals and maybe some deca/eq, then guage my progress in december, and then cut up and shed that fat over that new muscle, or.....if my goal is to always have that 6 pack or tight abs and get bigger without getting that off season style bloat and added fat, then i guess u would come up with another cycle yes

but, i do it like the pros, and obviously they dont do it wrong, isnt it true if coleman wanted to be as big as he could be for the olympia or for instance me and next years memorial day weekend, they bloat up and bulk the f#ck up all winter, then 12 weeks out they cut up.........isnt that true?? i think they do it for a reason, that if u dont mind as most people dont, if u dont mind the loss of ur veins and abs in the off season, then when u cut up the reward is that much sweeter than it is, whats the use of being say 240 in september, then doing little cycles to just get lean mass and getting up to say 250 tops memorial day at that same bf %, when u can bulk up, that 240 goes to at least 270 by christmas time, at least depending on what u eat, how u sleep, and the gear u take, and then cutting that up to 255 at least, and looking sicker than u have ever looked???

 

[Nimrod25]

HCG acts as an receptor antagonist and substitutes for LH. HCG will stimulate increases in natural testosterone so it will inhibite LH production so it is not recommended post cycle

M18

Mustang u are right on as usual. Using HCG post cycle while androgen levels are dropping is begging for estrogen related sides. As for clen sustaining gains, that is debatable. I beleive there was a post about clen a while back that had something to do with Beta-3 receptors being responsible for it's anabolic effects, however humans lack enough beta-3 receptors for clen to do much more than burn fat. As I said it is a debatable subject. IMO u should use clomid and low doses of anavar post cycle.