My Proposed Fall Cycle....Your Thoughts?

[MUSTANG_18]

Mustang u are right on as usual. Using HCG post cycle while androgen levels are dropping is begging for estrogen related sides. As for clen sustaining gains, that is debatable. I beleive there was a post about clen a while back that had something to do with Beta-3 receptors being responsible for it's anabolic effects, however humans lack enough beta-3 receptors for clen to do much more than burn fat. As I said it is a debatable subject. IMO u should use clomid and low doses of anavar post cycle.

Great info bud...I always thought Clen affected the Beta 2 receptors and E/C/A affected the lesser known Beta 3's..That is correct right ?

M18

 

[Nimrod25]

Great info bud...I always thought Clen affected the Beta 2 receptors and E/C/A affected the lesser known Beta 3's..That is correct right ?

M18

Yes Bro I am pretty sure that is correct, beacuse clen is a beta-2 agonist, however I am not convinced that it has any anabolic effect through beta-2 mechanisms though. ECA affects the lesser beta-3's that is why its used in the off clen weeks. I beleive that clen is a weak beta-3 agonizer and that is responsible for any anabolic effect, however due to our minimal amount of beta-3 receptors, the effect is not great at all.
Any Thoughts?

 

[CN1]

well I know about doing bulking cycles and doing cutting cycles..........but doing it like the pros means..............you never get off, you take 12-20 drugs at once, and basically your fuckin the man, but did you see I agree in bulking and cutting cycles if your competing, but bro I see these guys on here who weigh 185lbs and their doing cutting cycles, that is just stupid, bro i wouldnt do a cutting format cycle unless I was 270, now that is about 30 lbs away for me right now, so at the current time, I dont get off, I do test, size orals, combined with cutter like winny, eq.........and if your on deca your always gonna be hard, so basically a 175-220 guy doesnt need to do a fuckin cutting cycle, he should do it all at once and train like a fuckin crazed, psycho, intense, jacked up bastard.........thats what I think!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Yes Bro I am pretty sure that is correct, beacuse clen is a beta-2 agonist, however I am not convinced that it has any anabolic effect through beta-2 mechanisms though. ECA affects the lesser beta-3's that is why its used in the off clen weeks. I beleive that clen is a weak beta-3 agonizer and that is responsible for any anabolic effect, however due to our minimal amount of beta-3 receptors, the effect is not great at all.
Any Thoughts?

Very good info....It makes sence and I think I read Dan Duchaine saing something similar to that a while back so I think you hit the nail on the head. How is the current cycle going?

M18

 

[CN1]

I mean dont you agree, I know all bodies are different, but if your not an experienced bb with atleast 250lbs of symmetrical mass, you shouldnt be doing a cutting cycle,

for example(hypothetical situation) this is joel anavar talking:

yeah bro Im gettin stacked, Im wayin bout 182, im huge man, summers comin, Im gonna hit me some winstrol and some fuckin anavar, and some clenbuterol, gonna be ripped and bro I might even hit 140lbs cut as hell.......

Now anyone can get cut and definition, bro I see pro bb's every fuckin day in the gym......from flex wheeler to the barbarian brothers.........and a fuckin 200lb guy who is doing a fuckin cutting cycle can do it........but while Im weighing 275 lbs...............he is gonna be a fuckin sack of potatoes standing next to me.

 

[Nimrod25]

Very good info....It makes sence and I think I read Dan Duchaine saing something similar to that a while back so I think you hit the nail on the head. How is the current cycle going?

M18

Actually, I just posted a new pic on the picture board. I also must say that u have inspired me to add Fina to my next cycle which will begin in late september. Im thinking of Prop/Fina for 6-8 weeks. I am a huge fan of short frequent cycles, as I seem to have a problem growing beyond week 7. I may be bothering u with Fina questions when the time comes, so just a heads up.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Actually, I just posted a new pic on the picture board. I also must say that u have inspired me to add Fina to my next cycle which will begin in late september. Im thinking of Prop/Fina for 6-8 weeks. I am a huge fan of short frequent cycles, as I seem to have a problem growing beyond week 7. I may be bothering u with Fina questions when the time comes, so just a heads up.

hehehe very good choice...Fina is awesome so far for me and with Test you will love it

M18

 

[CN1]

yeah I try to tell guys in the gym and people I know, they must use finaplix in their cycles, I havent took any in about 8 weeksand I am gonna snort about 120mg a day starting tommorrow, but guys I tell to use finaplix, they just dont get it, they think I am bullshitting about the gains and strength and hardness off of fina, ohh well, while I am getting size they can just wonder.

 

[deppnade]

cn1, i see what u are saying, but in my opinion, if u are over 10% bf, whatever weight u are at, u dont look nearly as good as if u are 8 or under in terms of bfat percentages

i work in the hamptons on the island, were we get the biggest guys in the world to come to our clubs(argueble obviously), but a guy that is shredded and has good muscle looks a ton better than a guy that is a big bloat ball with no cuts and no definition, but that is why i am saying that in the winter it is tough on the head, losing the abs, etc, but when the summer comes, regardless of weight and what not, it is time to show off that muscle, and get under 8% bf, u might as well show it off in the summer, in new york that is really the only time u can showcase it

and about that hypothetical situation, yes, that guy should realize u gotta have quality mass on you to look good when u lose all the fat, but that is them, and this is us, weight is weight, all that means is what a scale says u are, the mirror tells another story bro, good talking with ya, i gotta hit the gym

 

[sausage]

i personally think that clen does have anabolic effects cause after four weeks of ending my cycle, using clen and clomid ive gotten even stronger and havent lost any strength.