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My pics before and after juiceeeee.

I really don't see a lot of difference, but it could just be the pics. You looked good to me before you ever started a cycle. I just don't see much gain in mass at all. Legs maybe?
 
I defintly gained 20lbs since last year..I look alot bigger mainly from the side view..Much thicker than last year..these pics came out kinda shitty..But there def is a big difference from last summer, look at the back comparison...
 
V-SHAPE 2 said:
thanx serge

bro, the culprit is your cycle structue, you are an ectomorph.....classic ectomorph i might add, your cycles should not be fina/winny, you wont get much out of those; realisticly you should focus on cycles heavy in testosterone stacked with some kind of anabolic like deca or eq or fina, if i trained you, one of my stacks would blow all of your cycles away and end up costing you much less money
 
your traps grew immensly.. but that is about it.
 
I dont think Im a ecto bro, I gain fat very easily..I was just dieted down on low carbs in those pics. Those pics make me look much thinner than in peron.
 
is that gyno in your right tit? the pics are hard to see a difference, you have a good body shape tho imo. one of your boobs is bigger then your other. you look thicker, you just had a good shape to begin with.
 
thanks bros. I def dont have gyno, in that pic my left pic is slightly flexed giving the illusin of a bigger tit on tha right.
 
holy fuck some off these guys are being harsh.....

your first pick you are DEFINATELY alot leaner but it doesnt mean you didnt gain quality mass....your chest is fuller for sure and your delts are bigger.

your arms also have alot more mass.....i could see it being 20 pounds.....i dont know what the fuck these other guys are talkin about.

b.A.
 
Looks like you are missing a few things in the URL...
 
V-SHAPE 2 said:
lol thanks BigAgragorn your tha man:fro:

hey no problem....im just giving an objective assessment and man the first pick you looked great....i think that was a cause for some of these "no difference" responeses....hatin.

b.A.
 
Your obviously thicker in the after shots. It does look like your carrying more fat in the after shots but it's clear their is some more muscle mass is there too. However, to me it sure does not look like your carrying 20 more pounds in the after shots.

How much did you weigh immediately before and after your cycle? How much weight did you cut when you dieted down after the cycle? How long did you wait before dieting down for the second pic?

How was your training structured? Split, off days, sets per core exercises, reps per set, etc. How was your diet during the cycle?

How exactly was your cycle structured?
 
I see a diference. You look better and thicker. Your posing sucks almsot as bad as mine does.lol. though. And to whoever said "look sliek you jsut got fatter" you are the type of person who WILL NEVER EVEER BE BIG.. in order to get bigger we have to gain soem extra cushin pushin and or and be bloated.

Peace
 
nice

Big Traps.....I can see the difference in the back spread, but very little in chest area. The Pics aren't the same as the year before. that's why it doesn't look like there's much difference.
 
macDbol said:


your from france,,,go stick your finger up a guys ass or something

bro, these are just opinions, they are not facts, dont mean much at all, so there really is not need to get rude
 
I think you have a great physique, but would be disappointed if those were my only results from fina. I gained more and was more defined from 10 wks of creatine/glutamin/protein =/
 
yeah,,but before u do i want u to look at my bum hole after i downed two myopro shakes so i can dump gallons of shit on your face
 
Whenever someone posts his pics and asks for comments, he needs to accept all opinions and take the negative as 'constructive criticism'.

Honestly, it's hard to tell the before pics from the afterwards, but the closer you look you can see differences. From experience I know that cameras hardly do justice to some of the physiques.

From what I see, keep with it and don't worry what other people think of you. Be where it makes YOU happy.
 
You guys that are saying you can't see a difference must be fucking blind! I can see a HUGE change in this dude. 20 pounds of muscle spread all over the body will not make the difference between Steve Urkel and Vin Diesel.
 
Bro you look good, but i have no idea which are the before and after pics. In my mind they are all the same...

NFG
 
The look you have is great man.......before and after...I can tell a solid diffrence in the b/a pics.
I have the same body as u do just higher BF. I am going for the same look........I know that it's tough to workt he rear delts and the front dealts, but you gota do it man. Your shoulders will help you look much bigger than you do.........but u do look great.

FOCUSED
 
Thanks for all the replies bros, Im not lying about my weight gain , and I defintly gained a lot of size from last year but the pics arent tooo obvious as you would expect. Look at a pic of yourself 20lbs lighter its not going to shock the shit out you. All you faggots talking shit grow some balls and post your pic before you write negative comments.
 
V-SHAPE 2 said:
Thanks for all the replies bros, Im not lying about my weight gain , and I defintly gained a lot of size from last year but the pics arent tooo obvious as you would expect. Look at a pic of yourself 20lbs lighter its not going to shock the shit out you. All you faggots talking shit grow some balls and post your pic before you write negative comments.

Its true......ive gained about 29 pounds off of my first cycle but it's distribution over my entire frame makes it look like only 15..... its easy to pass judgement on someone but do it objectively.....the man posted his pics: its not like he said i gained 20 pounds and then didnt back it up....the simple fact that he posted his pics shows that he isnt lying......keep working bro you have a quality physique and dont worry about the haters!

b.A.
 
you asked therefore i speak.........i dont see much of a difference but you looked much harder natural. you shoulders look a bit bigger but not much of a change.
 
damn got some haters on the mofo

you look thicker, but also you are carrying id say 4 percent more BF

either way your solid and got a nice frame, now go hit some test my boy.
 
It did look like a little gyno, but whatever... your back looks a lot thinker, and you look good man...

Keep it up...
 
Bro, I can indeed see a difference. The trick for you is going to go to the next level and keep it on. It is true you are a true ectomorph and keeping the muscle on your frame is going to be a task.

Keep on lifting, your improving. Remember its gonna be a slower process that for some guys.
 
##spiderbaby## said:
Bro, I can indeed see a difference. The trick for you is going to go to the next level and keep it on. It is true you are a true ectomorph and keeping the muscle on your frame is going to be a task.

Keep on lifting, your improving. Remember its gonna be a slower process that for some guys.

the progress does not have to be slower, its all about tailoring anabolic/nutrition/training program to each specific bodytype and goal

the kid has a great frame, small joints, wide shoulder, small waist; now just has to build on it
 
V-SHAPE 2 said:
Thanks for all the replies bros, Im not lying about my weight gain , and I defintly gained a lot of size from last year but the pics arent tooo obvious as you would expect. Look at a pic of yourself 20lbs lighter its not going to shock the shit out you. All you faggots talking shit grow some balls and post your pic before you write negative comments.

damn...i didn't think any of the comments were mean-spirited. if you post a pic, you gotta' be prepared for some positives and negatives.

you made progress, but understand that to a lot of us there doesn't appear to be a 20 pound difference. not a flame...keep up the good work.
 
i can see a nice difference between the first and last pics. definitely some improvement in back/traps thickness. but i gotta ask, wheres the legs?
 
First off bro, you are going to get good and bad comments. It's good that you seem to be taking it well.

It doesn't seem as if you gained 20lbs. On a guy your height, I would think 20lbs would have been more dramatic. BUT 20lbs fills out differently on everybody. 20lbs on me at 6'3 looks like NOTHING. Your lats don't look like they gained any width at all, in fact I think your back in a weak point that could use some attention. Your arms however have filled out nicely. Your small waist can be used to your advantage, giving you an illusion of being bigger than you are. Thats a big plus. All in all, you don't look bad. I think you are using the wrongs cycles, and probably not eating right for your body type though. Hit up some test, no need to stack 50 different things, or perhaps some deca. Do that, and eat everything in site, and you will put on the lbs, big time. Also stick to only compound movements. Bro, you look good, better than most people walking around on the streets. Don't let any comments get you down, because they are just that, opinions and comments. Now get out to the gym and then hit up a buffet and grow!

ps. Oh yeah, your delts look a lot better too. :)
 
Looks like you lost definition in your abs is all I can see. I would rather look like the before pics than the afters.

If you decide to do more cycles definitely focus on test.

JC
 
trial0r my legs grew a lot since that last pic, I never even squatted last year. Ill def put in a leg shoot soon
 
ok since you only like positive comments and not true comments then..........YOU ARE FUCKING HUGE I MEAN I HAVENT SEEN ANYONE GROW LIKE YOU IN YEARS!!!!! 20LB? I THOUGHT YOU GAINES ATLEAST 53LB, I CANT BELIEVE THAT ITS ONLY 20LB???? YOUR BODY FAT WENT UP BUT WHO CARES WHEN YOU PUT SOOOOO MUCH SIZE ON!!!! I WOULDNT FUCK WITH YOU AT ALL YOU ARE HUGE!!!! DID YOU HAVE TO RE-DO THE DOORWAYS AT YOUR HOUSE TO FIT THRU OR WHAT??? GREAT FUCKING JOB BRO.
 
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