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My PCT with dbol after a coulpe of years ON

MrRTTB

MrRTTB

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For you guys who are sceptic that 10mg in the morning would help for recovery after a cycle, I have news. I started a cycle with EQ, Tren and test a few years back. After that cycle I started clomid/nolva and HCG and thought I was recovered. After 3 weeks I crached big time, got depressed and decided to go on again. I was on for 6 months and after that started another cycle, low doses with test and dbol I beleeve. After that cycle I couldn't stop. I never totaly went of until last year, I decided to go off after another 6 months but as nothing else worked for me I decided to try dbol in the morning at 10mg. I did this for about 60 days. drive was stable and I dropped the dose to 5mg in the morning for a couple of weeks. My nuts came back to normal and I felt great.

Today I'm free from S and have been for about one year. I never crashed and recovered totaly doing just dbol in the morning. My values went back to normal and today I feel like a million bucks and sexdrive is very high.

I'm not saying dbol is the way to go for everyone, but I just felt like sharing my experience with it.

Thanks
 
congrats bro. ive always contemplated this - done it for a week between cycle and pct one time, not sure if it helped...
 
Wow, what a story. I've used a lot of d-bol(10 a day at times) and never had a problem like this. I guess I am lucky or your case is very unusual. Anyway, congats on getting back to normal. That sounded like a guy coming off heroin or something crazy. Is great you back to normal.
 
goal200 said:
Interesting stuff man. Wanna hear more from the vets about this...
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i did the same for my pct and at 10mg in the morning!!!i posted this awhile back and i also added teslac to my pct and it opened those receptors up. good note to go by is i gave blood after my pct and i was on a long cycle!!!! my blood was so thick after doing so much test i am lucking my heart even pumped the blood through!!!! anyway by giving blood it helped my blood flow freely and i never shut down at all.i am getting ready to jump back on in 2-weeks i will run d-bol for 5-weeks until the test kicks in.
(give blood you will be surprised how much it will help) i ran a 20-week cycle i know it was my first cycle but everything worked out great for me. just my 2-cents dont want to h-jack thread just telling my experience. good luck bro,s
 
KD1 said:
Cool story. I wonder if Var at those same doses would do something similar.
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var is good at 100mg ed and that is were the magic starts/as a side note take care of the liver!!!!either tylers or milk thistle
at a 1000mg a day. also if you do decide on d-bol i took it with letzrole makes for a interresting cocktail!!!! what i mean is a poor mans anavar!!!but much stronger. you will need some estrogen so watch your doses on let/and d-bol i usually took a half a dropper a day and 10mg/d-bol every morning and then spaced it out through the day at 25mg a day. also i chewed my d-bol up instead of just swallowing it i get awful a-bombs when ingested. but what work for me might not work for you. you will have to do what works for you and your body will let you know just like a car overheating!!!
 
Dellyo said:
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Well, as I wrote I used 10mg in the morning. During my PCT I managed to increase in strength and lost the water and a great deal of fat. This is by far the best shit I've ever used for a PCT. I do not think I lost any of the muscle I gained from the cycles.

The "classic" PCT with HCG and either clomid or nolva OR Nolva + Clomid is probably a good thing for many of you guys. But still, the body needs to get back on track by itself and I beleeve mine did this with the dbol.

My nuts went back to normal whilke on PCT. Remember I had been on and of for a very very long time.
 
MrRTTB said:
Well, as I wrote I used 10mg in the morning. During my PCT I managed to increase in strength and lost the water and a great deal of fat. This is by far the best shit I've ever used for a PCT. I do not think I lost any of the muscle I gained from the cycles.

The "classic" PCT with HCG and either clomid or nolva OR Nolva + Clomid is probably a good thing for many of you guys. But still, the body needs to get back on track by itself and I beleeve mine did this with the dbol.

My nuts went back to normal whilke on PCT. Remember I had been on and of for a very very long time.
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good job bro!!!!!
 
Glad to hear it, I've been on for nearly 7 months now and have been contemplating the dbol am dose because I tend to lose in the weeks after PCT even after using hcg/nolv/clomid
 
so did u do PCT with hcg and nolva and THEN do dbol in morning, or did u do both simulatanously, or just the dbol and no HCG??....im confused a little, sorry.... but im definatly interested in this as ive been on for a while
 
ricorico said:
so did u do PCT with hcg and nolva and THEN do dbol in morning, or did u do both simulatanously, or just the dbol and no HCG??....im confused a little, sorry.... but im definatly interested in this as ive been on for a while
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i wanna know that too.bump
 
You take 10mg every morning from the time you end your cycle. I usually start taking the dbol the same day I start PCT.

YES, you do your PCT like you normally would. The dbol does not take the place of anything. Its just an addition to help you keep your gains.
 
JuicedAthletics said:
You take 10mg every morning from the time you end your cycle. I usually start taking the dbol the same day I start PCT.

YES, you do your PCT like you normally would. The dbol does not take the place of anything. Its just an addition to help you keep your gains.
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as juice said!!! do this your gains will stay and you will not have to use any creatine. i started 2-weeks before the end of my cycle!! i ran a 20-week cycle so at 18-weeks start d-bol in the morning at 10mg/ed i did this and added letzrole 1/2 a dropper every morning a then at lunch take another oneat the end of your cycle just do as your suppose to (pct) clomid /hcg, this will work great for yah!! alot of pro body builders do this and some add teslac it is expensive but works very well for opening up those receptors to let more test into the blood stream. now after your cycle give some blood this will free up more test and lift some of the thick as blood you have flowing in your veins!!! and also your heart will thank you for it. try this and see for your self it will work and you will love the results.
 
Ok, so the people that have tried this say it works great to maintain gains throughout PCT... I'm just as concerned though about not losing libido, not feeling lethargic... in other words, not crashing....and to make sure that natural hormone levels will recover while using the dbol method.... so for those of you who tried this sucessfully, did your bloodwork come back "normal" after PCT with dbol?
 
MrRTTB said:
For you guys who are sceptic that 10mg in the morning would help for recovery after a cycle, I have news. I started a cycle with EQ, Tren and test a few years back. After that cycle I started clomid/nolva and HCG and thought I was recovered. After 3 weeks I crached big time, got depressed and decided to go on again. I was on for 6 months and after that started another cycle, low doses with test and dbol I beleeve. After that cycle I couldn't stop. I never totaly went of until last year, I decided to go off after another 6 months but as nothing else worked for me I decided to try dbol in the morning at 10mg. I did this for about 60 days. drive was stable and I dropped the dose to 5mg in the morning for a couple of weeks. My nuts came back to normal and I felt great.

Today I'm free from S and have been for about one year. I never crashed and recovered totaly doing just dbol in the morning. My values went back to normal and today I feel like a million bucks and sexdrive is very high.

I'm not saying dbol is the way to go for everyone, but I just felt like sharing my experience with it.

Thanks
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Thank you. This is a great post for me. I've been preaching this for 5 years. And I get a lot of bullshit for it. AM Dbol works and you proved it here.
 
njmuscleguy said:
Ok, so the people that have tried this say it works great to maintain gains throughout PCT... I'm just as concerned though about not losing libido, not feeling lethargic... in other words, not crashing....and to make sure that natural hormone levels will recover while using the dbol method.... so for those of you who tried this sucessfully, did your bloodwork come back "normal" after PCT with dbol?
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Bump^
 
Ulter said:
Thank you. This is a great post for me. I've been preaching this for 5 years. And I get a lot of bullshit for it. AM Dbol works and you proved it here.
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Tell us more Ulter??
 
Ulter said:
It's all on the post cycle recovery consensus statement at anabolicfitness.com
It's just using 10mg/day of dbol upon rising. You do this only when your normal PCT is failing you. It's used to prevent a crash.
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Well are you running the dbol until the PCT is done or keep the dbol in when the PCT is done?
 
I am about to do this now with proviron,25mg of clomid per day, aimf and HCG,I will bridge and get back on or possibly come off for a few months depending on how I look and feel.
 
gymratforlife said:
I am about to do this now with proviron,25mg of clomid per day, aimf and HCG,I will bridge and get back on or possibly come off for a few months depending on how I look and feel.
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Well would Proviron take the place of dbol? And for some 1 not going back on for a few mos do you think that the dbol PCT add-on is better?
 
Dellyo said:
Well would Proviron take the place of dbol? And for some 1 not going back on for a few mos do you think that the dbol PCT add-on is better?
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Proviron doesnt retain muscle mass nor improve gains. It's for HPTA and endogenous test recovery. Dbol acts as endogenous test as your body recovers. The body produces about 7mg of test/ed, so 10 mg of Dbol will put you in the higher end of the normal range. It's not overkill which is key.

Great post MrRTTB. kkkk
 
you have to take it in the morning when you wake up because your produces test in spurts. when you take the dbol, your body thinks this is one of the spurts and will not supress you. dbol has a short half life so its gone by the end of the day. as you lower to 5mg, your body will adjust, and produce more test. in reality, you have to taper down every medicine you take. most people dont with a pct. they just stop the exo steriods and hope the body will recover fast. im sure you could do this with test suspension when you wake up but eating 2 pills is much easier.
 
There are two correct explanations here. One mis-statement.
Your body makes about 7mg/day of test. 10mg/day of dbol is NOT 10mg of test. So it won't put you above what your body would make naturally. Proviron is no substitute for this. You would do this after a couple weeks of PCT if the PCT is not proving effective for you.
 
Nighthawkk said:
Glad to hear it, I've been on for nearly 7 months now and have been contemplating the dbol am dose because I tend to lose in the weeks after PCT even after using hcg/nolv/clomid
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im in the same boat bro
 
drrman said:
im in the same boat bro
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I first heard about the AM dbol dosage over at T-nation.. This sounds very promising, and I am considering adding it to my PCT.. I've known people who have used an AM oral methyltestosterone with great success..

I also remember reading about pyramiding testosterone down to 100mg/wk during PCT to help retain gains.. Any thoughts on that?

T-Matt
 
T-Matt said:
I first heard about the AM dbol dosage over at T-nation.. This sounds very promising, and I am considering adding it to my PCT.. I've known people who have used an AM oral methyltestosterone with great success..

I also remember reading about pyramiding testosterone down to 100mg/wk during PCT to help retain gains.. Any thoughts on that?

T-Matt
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From Steroid.com
"In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won´t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you´d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT."
The trick here is to be sure and run the Nolva/Clomid/HCG therapy AS WELL.
As Ulter said, do this IF your PCT is not working well.

Personally I think fully recovering HTPA without AAS (and this includes Proviron for me) and time on=time off keeps me healthier and allows my receptors to recover so I keep my cycles lower dosed and safer. It's all about balance, bro's.
 
I have done this before, and loved it. If I ever shared my experience, people would bash me on here and tell me that it was the same as being on. I say, SO WHAT! There ARE people that are on year round. Pretty soon, I'm going to be one of them. I had been following my usual PCT protocol until this thread reminded me how good this works. If people would just give it a try, I think you would all be pretty impressed.
 
every morning eh? same time everyday or just as soon as you wake up? I've done AM Dbol before and never found myself to recover that well.
 
JuicedAthletics said:
LOL 10mg (ten)
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what he's saying is that the article quoted above states that up to 100mg ED will not suppress natural test, LH, and FSH levels enough so that PCT is impossible
 
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derailed said:
my question is how long do you run the dbol pct. Some have 6 week cycles while some have monster 20 weekers.
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I don't know if anyone can truly answer that with a standard number... it's like any aspect of AAS, it's trial and error... apparently some people start the dbol just prior to the end of the cycle, some start right at the end....some people start at the same time as PCT and for as long as PCT lasts.... best bet is to try it several different ways (especially if PCT has been unsuccessful in the past), and see which way works best.... most PCT's are anywhere from 4-6 weeks... the best way to gauge how long to run the PCT is to see how you feel physically.... then confirm it with bloodwork
 
Best thing for PCT is a new girl! Hands down. You find yourself a new playmate and it will do wonders!
 
I may try this for when I come off.

As far as the test taper, I used it my last PCT and it was the best I ever felt, no crash. I also used .5mg adex every day. I just ran 250mg for 3 weeks, then 125mg for 3 weeks. Almost a seemless transition. Previous to this I had tried HCG+clomid+nova, and then then a nova only.

Monopoly
 
I am interested in your gains after the typical cycle...for example....being on so long, were youstill making gains and solid gains at week 20, 30, 40....what are your stats and diet like?
 
galaxy said:
Best thing for PCT is a new girl! Hands down. You find yourself a new playmate and it will do wonders!
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agreed.. im down with that comment.. broke up with my girl during cycle had a bad week , finished up decently.. Found a new girl within a week of moving away and PCT is wonderFULL =)
 
monopoly19 said:
I may try this for when I come off.

As far as the test taper, I used it my last PCT and it was the best I ever felt, no crash. I also used .5mg adex every day. I just ran 250mg for 3 weeks, then 125mg for 3 weeks. Almost a seemless transition. Previous to this I had tried HCG+clomid+nova, and then then a nova only.

Monopoly
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Test taper? tell us more
 
I like the theory behind this - 5 - 10mg of Dbol clears very quickly, and it will certainly help you feel better.

It could not hurt to run it for 2 - 3 weeks during a month-long PCT.


Bluesman
 
JKurz1 said:
I am interested in your gains after the typical cycle...for example....being on so long, were youstill making gains and solid gains at week 20, 30, 40....what are your stats and diet like?
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:chomp:
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
I like the theory behind this - 5 - 10mg of Dbol clears very quickly, and it will certainly help you feel better.

It could not hurt to run it for 2 - 3 weeks during a month-long PCT.


Bluesman
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^^
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
I like the theory behind this - 5 - 10mg of Dbol clears very quickly, and it will certainly help you feel better.

It could not hurt to run it for 2 - 3 weeks during a month-long PCT.


Bluesman
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this is what I want to know more about....right here...
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
I like the theory behind this - 5 - 10mg of Dbol clears very quickly, and it will certainly help you feel better.

It could not hurt to run it for 2 - 3 weeks during a month-long PCT.


Bluesman
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What up Blues.. It's good see some familiar faces other than mods.. :)
 
Dellyo said:
Test taper? tell us more
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I dont think that will work any better - 125mg of test will shut you down 100%, just like 500mg will.

Maybe it will get your body more accustomed to normal androgen levels, but it wont help your HTPA recover any quicker I dont think.
 
too damn scary for me.....good luck......do some good research bro....99% will tell you you can't mix aas and pct....it's assinine....this is just what many say, not my view as I am truly uinsure
 
JKurz1 said:
too damn scary for me.....good luck......do some good research bro....99% will tell you you can't mix aas and pct....it's assinine....this is just what many say, not my view as I am truly uinsure
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I don't really think the ration is 99%/1%. Create a poll if you like. I would say it's closer to 50%/50%, especially based on those who have actually used it.
 
string_bean00 said:
I did it in April after a six month cycle and had my best recovery yet.
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Explain please....your entire cycle and then your pct procol.....blood work? be honest!
 
JKurz1 said:
Explain please....your entire cycle and then your pct procol.....blood work? be honest!
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Weeks 1-24 were test, various dosages from 750mg to 350mg
Weeks 1-4 were dbol, 35mg
Weeks 1- 10 deca, 400mg

HCG was used @ 500iu every four days or so in the last couple weeks before I began PCT.

PCT:
Weeks 1-3: 40mg nolva and 10mg am dbol
Weeks 3-6 20mg nolva

I didn't get bloodwork done but this was the only cycle that I did not crash after. In previous PCTs I became very depressed, zero sex drive, loss of strength. None of that happened here. I didn't really notice coming off.
 
string_bean00 said:
Weeks 1-24 were test, various dosages from 750mg to 350mg
Weeks 1-4 were dbol, 35mg
Weeks 1- 10 deca, 400mg

HCG was used @ 500iu every four days or so in the last couple weeks before I began PCT.

PCT:
Weeks 1-3: 40mg nolva and 10mg am dbol
Weeks 3-6 20mg nolva

I didn't get bloodwork done but this was the only cycle that I did not crash after. In previous PCTs I became very depressed, zero sex drive, loss of strength. None of that happened here. I didn't really notice coming off.
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What week did you start the nova and dbol ?
 
it most certaintly is if you never recovered....not saying you did or didn't, but we arent 100% sure....
 
JKurz1 said:
it most certaintly is if you never recovered....not saying you did or didn't, but we arent 100% sure....
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jkurz is right the only thing we are 100% sure of is that jkurz is an obsessive compulsive annorexic
 
JKurz1 said:
it most certaintly is if you never recovered....not saying you did or didn't, but we arent 100% sure....
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True. While I can't say I know 100% that I was fully recovered, I can say without a doubt that I did recover faster than previous, conventional PCTs, based on sex drive, strength, mood, and ability to hold onto muscle.
 
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