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my opinions on steroids.....

buck, you know i agree with your desicion, i would not do it myself but i dont disagree at all...and if it helps with your career go for it..and also im sure no one disagrees you are one huge mofo..

peace
 
Steroids certainly aren't for everyone, but considering I put on 40 lbs with my first (last shot was today) I think they are for me :D
 
steriods shouldnt even be an issue,,,if they are out there and they can help you acheive your goals,,then why not take them? I say if your gonna use drugs might as well get muscle off it:D
 
The Varnsen said:
Hey Buck you showed your pic and you said you juice several times, how will they let you play football?

As long as I'm clean when the drug test rolls around I'm fine. That can't PROVE that I ever did steriods...MMMMMUUUUUHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAA!!!
 
i didnt read the whole thread so if i repeat what someone already said, i apologize.

im really fucking sick of people saying gear is the easy way out, IMO using gear is so much more work and dedication then training natural.

when you train naturally you can still do normal things like go out, have a couple drinks a week, stay up late, chill with girls; on the other hand when you go on gear you must give it all up; socializing, partying, late nights- to me thats a hell of a sacrifice, and im sure others will agree with me on this one.

it took me a long ass time to decide whether or not to use gear, not because of the money, the sides, or the moral issue, i simply was not ready to dedicate my whole time "on" to sacrifice basically everything that meant something to me.

in my opinion theres nothing more hardcore and dedicated then gear usage, as long as you do it responsibly and in moderation.

like me, im taking anavar right now at 50mg ed, but when september hits im taking two years off, as a "break" from all that dedication and hard training; dont get me wrong, its not that i dont train hard when "off" but its much more forgiving and "layed back" so to speak.

what im trying to say is that theres nothing "easy" about using gear, if or when you decide to hit your first cycle, you will know exactly what we mean.
 
i am not trying to say it is easy or easy way out..i know i takes dedication and a lot of research too..but i am saying i feel that people need to bust ass natural first and try to max natty before they juice, read the whole post, and youll see what i mean

peace
 
I want to throw another wrench in here and say it doesn't matter what a guy looks like when he is on,most likely he will look more muscular then when he
started the cycle. But whats more important is what he looks like and what he gets to keep after going off, meaning does he continue to eat and train hard to keep most of the gains.
Unfortunantly from what I have seen with people who jump right into juice thats not the case. Most of these type of people I am talking about go about it with this scenario.

1-Buy the drugs they want
2-set up a training program where they are training chest and biceps at least 4-5 times a week, everything else is trained maintenance because according to them those other parts grow too easy for them(sarcasm)
3-Increase protein intake to at least 1/2 a gram of protein per lbs of bodyweight:D
4-Increase meals from 2 meals to at least 4 a day

Now they go on the cycle train hard for the 6-12 weeks or whatever time the cycle is. Gain 10-30 lbs, 1 third water, 1 third fat, 1 third muscle.
Finish the cycle then they go back to eating and training like before the cycle, although truthfully they usually disapear from the gym for a few weeks only to retern looking worse then they did before the cycle.

I usually see this breed of "bodybuilder" during the late spring and summer months and in the weeks before spring break.
 
Amen

Yeah, MIllhouse got that one nailed down.

I would venture to say 50% of the juice bought is by those dudes. And none of them do more than one or two cycles because they don't keep their gains.

They're also the guys that screw the system up for the rest of us. They don't use the right stuff and get bad sides, end up getting busted and then spend the rest of their lives collecting transmissions from camaros to store on their lawn.
 
I personally plan to juice once I know enough info about them to put together a cycle and once I can afford.

I don't see anything wrong with them but I just do not like people that think they are doing better than you becuase they juice. It's like they forget that I am natural and they are not.

I have proven to myself that I can do alot without the use of them, and once I aquire the knowledge to use them, I will.
 
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