my opinions on steroids.....

[JustinM]

this should open up a good discusion..keep in mind this is only my opinion and i have nothing against people who do roids at all but we need a good discussion...i know big buck will agree with me on this one..

now i feel that too many people are giving up and just taking roids on this board..now i am no monster i am just a kid and i am not that big but you can def tell i workout..now...i think that when i go over to the pictures of our members board and i see people who have done like 2 cycles and arent even that massive i just think that they are resorting to roids too soon..now i see the need for steroids to some people but once they are ver big natural..for example i respect wodin for usuing roids because he does it intelligently (not saying the rest of you dont but i am not too sure about details)..he says that he only uses roids when he reaches a sticking point which is cool because once you are so big you can;t grow that much more being natural..but i am just saying that some people are resorting too soon..i would rather see someone who is not on roids and isnt that big yet (but is trying real hard) than somone who is a little bigger and has done like three cycles..just how i feel...

lets discuss..

peace

 

[runner]

i'll play devil's advocate.

if steroids will help improve my progress, and if i am aware of any negatives and/or side effects in using them and take any necessary precautions, then WHY NOT use them? why is it okay for a big behemoth to use them to gain 20 pounds but not okay for a marcus camby or an average guy who works out to use them to gain 20?

my view is....if i can take something that will help my progress, then what is so wrong about that?

 

[Milhouse]

I have nothing against people using roids either. I tried em a few years ago myself(winny) but I was well over 220lbs at the time when I tried em.My priorities have changed somewhat the past couple of years since and being big is not my only reason to train anymore.

My only problem is exactly what Justin M said. That there are way too many people jumping right in and doing them without exhausting natural potential, let alone having a base. Some of the pictures on the boards of guys who are on their second cycle of d-bol and anadrol(sarcasm) are a joke because some of these dudes look like my little brother who doesnt even train hardly.

 

[Big Buck]

yeap, I've seen some of those pics on the pic board, and some are like "I've done 3 cycles...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH"...and they MFs look like they've never stepped in the gym...

 

[rudedawg]

I am thinking of doing them cuz I go to the board and see some huge ripped mofo's....... I am 6'2" 230lb but damn it would be cool to be 245 at the same BF%

 

[Imnotdutch]

Not everybody uses to get bigger.....you can maintain your bodyweight and get stronger with gear. So I'll assume that you mean only experienced lifters should use.....which is something I agree with. I'm now 28....I didnt even consider starting until I was 25 (I trained since I was 14....mostly wrongly!).....then I need a years homework.

Too many people see it as an easy way out. I think that you need to spend alot of time learning about how your body works before taking anything. You need to make mistakes and find what works for you. If you dont then you could easily waste your cycles.

It does seem to me that too many 6 foot tall, 160 lb guys who have trained for a year or less actually want to use thinking that they will blow up. Whatever happened to working for what you want?

this should open up a good discusion..keep in mind this is only my opinion and i have nothing against people who do roids at all but we need a good discussion...i know big buck will agree with me on this one..

now i feel that too many people are giving up and just taking roids on this board..now i am no monster i am just a kid and i am not that big but you can def tell i workout..now...i think that when i go over to the pictures of our members board and i see people who have done like 2 cycles and arent even that massive i just think that they are resorting to roids too soon..now i see the need for steroids to some people but once they are ver big natural..for example i respect wodin for usuing roids because he does it intelligently (not saying the rest of you dont but i am not too sure about details)..he says that he only uses roids when he reaches a sticking point which is cool because once you are so big you can;t grow that much more being natural..but i am just saying that some people are resorting too soon..i would rather see someone who is not on roids and isnt that big yet (but is trying real hard) than somone who is a little bigger and has done like three cycles..just how i feel...

lets discuss..

peace

 

[Milhouse]

Another thing I notice is that alot of the guys who post pics like Buck and Justin pointed out could have got those builds(not all the builds are bad) without drugs, basically with a good diet and nutritional supplements.

 

[The Varnsen]

I don´t agree with that! The peak in a lifter´s strenght is in average reached around 35-40 years old... Will i wait until that age to use steroids? Bah... I, personally, lift for the looks and to feel stronger than the average fellar... I can take more advantage of that if i´m 20-25 years old... And more: some of us don´t have the natural ability to be very big... Everyone is different... What is funny is that guys who have started taking roids at age 18-22 and now call themselves gurus tell people "hey until you´re 25 you can´t take steroids, that will hurt you"!!!
I´m 5"10, 170 lbs... about 10% bf...I´ve been 190lbs at around 17% bf when i was bulking... I reached a point where no matter what i did for each pound of muscle i gained i would gain 1 more pound of fat... i don´t want to be a fat strong guy... I don´t have the genetics to be very big naturally without getting fat... I´m not going to wait until i´m 25 to use steroids! If i continue lifting with the purpose i will use steroids...

 

[rudedawg]

Another thing I notice is that alot of the guys who post pics like Buck and Justin pointed out could have got those builds(not all the builds are bad) without drugs, basically with a good diet and nutritional supplements.

Ever seen this natty? http://www.skiplacour.com/gallery.htm

 

[JustinM]

skip is great i have mad respect for him..now (keep in mind this is only my opninion) i feel that if you are into bodybuilding for the reasons that i am...(some people are only in it for puss) now that is one of the reasons that i do it but there is sooo much more..let me tell you repect is just as much as a reason for me as puss...but maybe some people want to get just puss and go the easy way out but to me bodybuilding is a life long thing and i will stay natural and always strive to be better...im sorry if i said easy way out but i feel that it is for some people who dont try enough..hey dont get me wrong im sure some people who take steroids early bust their ass but to me not enough..i am naty an i am only 17..now..this year i was stuck at a weight but now i am realizing i need to eat 1.5g of protein per pound in order to gain weight...not just 1...i think some people have it in them to get better but they don;t want to try new things...my views..

peace