My freind runs var between cycles

[Powerlifting57]

So i was talking to a buddy of mine who does his pct and runs var between cycles. He does high doses of test/deca/masteron and sometimes tren. Now would this be similar to cruising with a low dose of test or would this be less harsh on the body other than the liver?

 

[needtogetaas]

So i was talking to a buddy of mine who does his pct and runs var between cycles. He does high doses of test/deca/masteron and sometimes tren. Now would this be similar to cruising with a low dose of test or would this be less harsh on the body other than the liver?

It all depends. Make no mistake about it he is not doing it right though. He is not coming off or doing pct right. He is just doing pct and then going on a long var cycle. My problem is it may be hell on his lipids over time. Ya its more mild when it comes to chut down (dose depending) but liver,cholesterol,bp will all suffer in the long run. Unless we are talking a real low dose. Kind of like the 5-10mg dbol pct crap that used to be popular years ago.

I got a new product coming out called bridge ( I hope) and if you ask me going over the product and whats in it it would be just the same to use this as it would a low dose var.. No I am not talking a cycle of var but more like a 10mg ed kind of effect. So staying on a light light dose like your friend maybe doing now. Only a fuck of a lot more healthy.

I make no claims about any product I make that i can not put my money where my mouth is with. Everyone knows this. Everyone gets the satisfaction of knowing they are buying a product from some one who will give them there money back if they are not happy. A product That I stand behind with my money in my mouth ready to back it up...


But fuck all the product selling shit... If you are going to run hrt just do it right and do the 200mg test every week. Or even 100... I say you should just do pct and recover from cycles for as long as you can though.... For health reasons alone but not only that if you do pct or stay natural for a wile and then go back on cycle the cycles are always better in the end.




And other then that how you doing today Powerlifting?

 

[Powerlifting57]

Yea i kind of figured it would fuck your lipids and cholesterol in the long run. I do not plan on being on hrt untill im old as fuck and cant get wood to save my life. I hope "BRIDGE" does hit the market.

Ya i think im just going to take some time off here soon maybe 4 mos after my pct. I should be finished end of sept.

Its going good, went and picked up some new bands to get ready for my next meet. Had a great leg work out, actually i still cant really walk. Applying for positions as a Personal trainer and looking at chiropractic schools out west.

How about yourself needto?

 

[needtogetaas]

Yea i kind of figured it would fuck your lipids and cholesterol in the long run. I do not plan on being on hrt untill im old as fuck and cant get wood to save my life. I hope "BRIDGE" does hit the market.

Ya i think im just going to take some time off here soon maybe 4 mos after my pct. I should be finished end of sept.

Its going good, went and picked up some new bands to get ready for my next meet. Had a great leg work out, actually i still cant really walk. Applying for positions as a Personal trainer and looking at chiropractic schools out west.

How about yourself needto?

I could be a lot better but could be worse too.. Things are ok right now in needto land I guess.

 

[future]

So i was talking to a buddy of mine who does his pct and runs var between cycles. He does high doses of test/deca/masteron and sometimes tren. Now would this be similar to cruising with a low dose of test or would this be less harsh on the body other than the liver?

Its called bridging. Some do this also with low levels of dbol. Using the var with pct is great BUT I still think the body needs some time off. There is research the igf-1 with pct is GREAT for gains and getting back to normal faster.

DBol bridge

This is a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.


Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.



He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)

5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.

Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.