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My freaking elbow is KILLING me !

split endz

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This tendonitis/tennis elbow is about to put me out of commision. Just bending my arm, once I go past 90 degrees, feels like sombody stuck a knife in my arm. It feels like it has a point at which the tendon rides over a bone in my elbow; when it does that, the pain makes me shudder. It's killing half of my workout exercises & is on my mind 24/7. Something bad has happened there & it's not getting any better. I am calling a Chiropractor today to see if they think they can help (never been to a chiro), if not I guess I'm off to see an orthopedic doctor. Anyone experienced tendonitis this bad ?
 
I've been developing elbow pain myself. It sucks. I hate it. From my elbow to my wrists I have a pain much like shin splints too.
 
split endz said:
This tendonitis/tennis elbow is about to put me out of commision. Just bending my arm, once I go past 90 degrees, feels like sombody stuck a knife in my arm. It feels like it has a point at which the tendon rides over a bone in my elbow; when it does that, the pain makes me shudder. It's killing half of my workout exercises & is on my mind 24/7. Something bad has happened there & it's not getting any better. I am calling a Chiropractor today to see if they think they can help (never been to a chiro), if not I guess I'm off to see an orthopedic doctor. Anyone experienced tendonitis this bad ?

I had a elbow problem like that in high school.. my elbow wouldnt bend without severe pain.. i went to a chiro and had it "adjusted" and that fixed 85% of the problem.. just had to deal with discomfort for awhile and eventually worked through it
 
I have the same problem right elbow it comes and goes usually happens when I am sparring if I miss with the right hand overextend it hurts like a mf. Rest is your best remedy I usually take 2-3 days off and it hurts when I do tri's.
 
Go to a specialist that knows what they are doing.It will only get worse.I had 4 cortisone shot in about 18 mos in mine just so i could train and work.Had surgery on it about 3 years ago and am just now able to grow again.
 
Hey Split, if you're having pain THAT severe, you most certainly should not be doing anything that makes it hurt, you should be resting it!!! And, yes, by all means do get it checked out - I'd go see a good sports doc. Once you've healed and this acute phase has passed, you'll need to figure out what's at the root of it. In my case, dropping certain exercises, notably triceps extensions of all sorts, has eliminated all elbow problems I had.
 
Mookie said:
I have the same problem right elbow it comes and goes usually happens when I am sparring if I miss with the right hand overextend it hurts like a mf. Rest is your best remedy I usually take 2-3 days off and it hurts when I do tri's.

Stopy relying on overhand rights, and go more to your jab and left uppercuts.



DIV
 
i am wearing a tennis elbow support as i type now on my left elbow. it kills me even when i make a fist. but this support has helped a lot especially durring my workouts.
 
I'm so active with working out & sports, for something like this to take me out is really depressing. Most injuries in the past I have been able to work through. : ebear, what do you do for triceps now, since most , if not all, tricep exercises involve an extension ? Thanks for the advice everyone.
 
split endz said:
This tendonitis/tennis elbow is about to put me out of commision. Just bending my arm, once I go past 90 degrees, feels like sombody stuck a knife in my arm. It feels like it has a point at which the tendon rides over a bone in my elbow; when it does that, the pain makes me shudder. It's killing half of my workout exercises & is on my mind 24/7. Something bad has happened there & it's not getting any better. I am calling a Chiropractor today to see if they think they can help (never been to a chiro), if not I guess I'm off to see an orthopedic doctor. Anyone experienced tendonitis this bad ?
I have the same problem, I went up so fast in muscle strength that my tendons and ligs weren't keeping up. Dropped my weight and upped my reps for the last 2 weeks and it has helped alot. I didn't want to stop my routine because I was seeing such significant gains but just couldn't take the pain anymore, I couldn't even roll down the window in my truck without losing my breath from the pain.
Hope you get better bro....it sucks.

Dave
 
split endz said:
I'm so active with working out & sports, for something like this to take me out is really depressing. Most injuries in the past I have been able to work through. : ebear, what do you do for triceps now, since most , if not all, tricep exercises involve an extension ? Thanks for the advice everyone.

Close-grips are my primary triceps exercise, I've learned to love 'em. I also do heavy kickbacks. No pain at all with these. Working through (or, better, around) injuries can be done sometimes, depending on the injury, but with pain as acute as you've described, rest is the very best thing you can do for it.
 
Went to the chiro today. She was doing all these tests where I would hold my arm in a certain position, she would pull while I resisted. Went through about 10 different positions, then, in one certain position (arm @ a 90> & wrist @ a 90 >), when she used force, I buckled. It hurt so bad, I stayed bent over for about a minute just holding my arm. I can't even tell you how much that hurt. I started sweating & thought I was going to pass out. I had to sit down in a chair & was just trying to stay conscious, I didn't hear anything else she said after that. All I know is I have to go back this evening for x-rays & first adjustment/treatment. Man, just thinking about that pain gives me chills. I hope she can help... this sux.
 
dahamn said:
I have the same problem, I went up so fast in muscle strength that my tendons and ligs weren't keeping up. Dropped my weight and upped my reps for the last 2 weeks and it has helped alot. I didn't want to stop my routine because I was seeing such significant gains but just couldn't take the pain anymore, I couldn't even roll down the window in my truck without losing my breath from the pain.
Hope you get better bro....it sucks.

Dave

That worked for me. It simply means that your connective tissue isn't able to keep up with muscle growth, and the pressure from weight training is just too high. Try lighter weight for more reps for anything that uses your arms, and slowly start increasing the weight, but only when it doesn't hurt anymore.
 
I prescribe REST!! I actually got tendinitis in my sholder and it kept me from really working out. Finally I got so sick and tired of the pain i went to the doc. He gave me some muscle relaxors and told me not to work out for 2-3 weeks. I was young when i had this problem (17-18 I think, full of pride) and didn't want to stop working out. I finally gave in and took the time off and it fixed itself. You really need to rest that is really the only thing that will get rid of this condition. Continuing to work out will only aggrevate it.
 
I have the same problem with my left elbow get to an Orthopedic Surgeon and have him take X-Rays or an MRI dont go to a Chiropractor. I had a injection of cortisone which helped but it still flairs up.
 
split endz said:
This tendonitis/tennis elbow is about to put me out of commision. Just bending my arm, once I go past 90 degrees, feels like sombody stuck a knife in my arm. It feels like it has a point at which the tendon rides over a bone in my elbow; when it does that, the pain makes me shudder. It's killing half of my workout exercises & is on my mind 24/7. Something bad has happened there & it's not getting any better. I am calling a Chiropractor today to see if they think they can help (never been to a chiro), if not I guess I'm off to see an orthopedic doctor. Anyone experienced tendonitis this bad ?

From most of the responses it sounds the best relief for you right now is to get that bitch shot up with cortisone......to the fuckin' bone!



DIV
 
I have heard that cortisone injections may have determental effects in the long run; that they only numb the pain. I will see what happens today at the chiro. If I don't think she is going be able to help this problem, I may have to see a doc. Has anyone tried any of these vet drugs like Equi-block, adequan, etc. ? Why are they not prescribed for humans ? Viper, you are probably right about the rest, but I tell you, that is the worst thing you could say to me. I am either working out or playing tennis every day. Those things are a big part of my life, and I feel like if I don't work out for even a week, I lose muscle ( fast metabolism, low fat %). Thanks everyone for input.
 
split endz said:
I have heard that cortisone injections may have determental effects in the long run

THEY DO!

They weaken the surrounding muscle system, tendons and ligaments. The tissues atrophy thereby adding to the problem over the longerm, but for the shorterm the cortisone provides relief if the pain is severe.

I wouldn't do cortisone myself, but the way you described the pain.....it seems that it's your only option right now.

Have you doctor prescibe you pain meds for the elbow, narcotics are possible......Percocet would work wonders for your pain.



DIV
 
treat the cause and not the symptom. Getting narcotic pain pills won't do crap for what's causing it. If youg et cortizone, you will have pain relief, but that should only serve the purpose of making the your rest period more comfortable.

Go to a specialist and if you get that cortizone shot don't go crazy just because you feel good. Remember that is only masking something that is still going on
 
I get tendon pain when I'm on and I'm dehydrated. Like if I go drinking the next morning my knees fucking kill, and once I get back to a good hydration level I'm feeling fine. I'm not saying that is your problem, but if your on and you are maintaining optimum hydration it will help keep the tendon pain down. I've always had knee and shoulder pain, though I have hyperextended my elbow playing ball a few times, and it is a shitty injury cuz it totally debilitates your ability to perform.
 
Well, here is a post that this newbie can actually answer! My wife is a sports therapist so alot of this comes from her. I have had problems with my right elbow for years and never really listened to her advice (stupid me) until about 1 year ago. DO NOT GET A CORT. SHOT. They are nothing but a mask for the pain. There are only 3 things to get rid of/help with tendi.

1) REST REST REST. Use alternating cold and heat packs for 20 minutes each 2 times a day ideally to help reduce inflamation and promote blood flow to that area with the heat to encourage repair and healing. I know you hate to hear that but how would you feel if you had been up for 48 hours and someone kept making you go and go and go when all you needed was rest? :D

2) Advil, Advil, Advil. No more than 800 milligrams in a 24 hour period.

3) Get a tennis elbow brace. It's the one that has the little air cast of sorts in it. Wear this 24-7 ESPECIALLY when you work out for about 2-3 weeks and your pain most likely will be gone. To find the best spot to wear it start wiggling your fingers around and press in the area that hurts. You will notice that it will stop hurting to move your hand and grab things when you press in one certtain spot. This is the spot to put the pressure from the brace on.

These braces never seemed like much sense to me until it was explained like this. "The tendon is like a rubber band. Imagine holding a rubber band in your right hand with your thumb and index finger. You have 2 little loops on either side of your fingers. Then grab the left side and pull. You will notice the right loop of the rubber band doesn't move hardly at all. Now imagine this is your tendon. What a tennis elbow brace does is allow your tendon to still be partially used so your hand can function but allows the inflammed portion of it to get some much needed rest. "

I followed this advice and I rarely have any elbow problems. If I do, I hit this routine and it is back to 100% within 2-3 days at the most. If this doesn't work I can only assume you have another sort of problem or your tennis elbow is so progressed that you will have to see a dr for some more aggressive treatment (which you are already doing it seems) Just my 15 cents worth. :D
 
Yeah I may not know my deca from my dbol(s) :D but I dealt with that problem for a long time and tried just about anything with no luck. I finally listened to my wife. huh....women..... go figure. ;)


split endz said:
Thanks wayne... newbie or not, good advice is good advice & you are no newbie to this problem it seems.
 
get some celebrex. Although most of these cox-2 inhibitor drugs are being taken off the market clebrex is still on the market and it has been concluded that 200mg a day is safe. If you don't have something seriously wrong with your elbow such as a tear then it should help out a lot. I usually take 200 mg of celebrex and 2 aleeves before lifting and have no problems. If I don;t take it I have trememendous pain. Make sure to ice your arm after lifting as well. If celebrex helps it means you have inflamation and like everyone else said the only way to get rid of it is to to a break for at least 2-3 weeks, if not more.
 
Yeah come to think of it I did try some celebrex and it did really help a lot. I think a 200 mg dose of celebrex felt like a 600-800 mg dose of advil. If you can get that stuff go for it. For some reason that aleve stuff never did anything for me. Even aspirin worked better than aleve did; but that may just be me. Icing after a workout is also a great idea. If anything it feels good.




dr0832 said:
get some celebrex. Although most of these cox-2 inhibitor drugs are being taken off the market clebrex is still on the market and it has been concluded that 200mg a day is safe. If you don't have something seriously wrong with your elbow such as a tear then it should help out a lot. I usually take 200 mg of celebrex and 2 aleeves before lifting and have no problems. If I don;t take it I have trememendous pain. Make sure to ice your arm after lifting as well. If celebrex helps it means you have inflamation and like everyone else said the only way to get rid of it is to to a break for at least 2-3 weeks, if not more.
 
cornfish said:
treat the cause and not the symptom. Getting narcotic pain pills won't do crap for what's causing it. If youg et cortizone, you will have pain relief, but that should only serve the purpose of making the your rest period more comfortable.

Go to a specialist and if you get that cortizone shot don't go crazy just because you feel good. Remember that is only masking something that is still going on

I agree with you about cortisone treating the symptom, not the cause.....however, he wants immediate relief.

He wants to be painfree, NOW.

That's why I mentioned the shots and/or narcotics.



DIV
 
wayneboard1 said:
Well, here is a post that this newbie can actually answer! My wife is a sports therapist so alot of this comes from her. I have had problems with my right elbow for years and never really listened to her advice (stupid me) until about 1 year ago. DO NOT GET A CORT. SHOT. They are nothing but a mask for the pain. There are only 3 things to get rid of/help with tendi.

1) REST REST REST. Use alternating cold and heat packs for 20 minutes each 2 times a day ideally to help reduce inflamation and promote blood flow to that area with the heat to encourage repair and healing. I know you hate to hear that but how would you feel if you had been up for 48 hours and someone kept making you go and go and go when all you needed was rest? :D

2) Advil, Advil, Advil. No more than 800 milligrams in a 24 hour period.

3) Get a tennis elbow brace. It's the one that has the little air cast of sorts in it. Wear this 24-7 ESPECIALLY when you work out for about 2-3 weeks and your pain most likely will be gone. To find the best spot to wear it start wiggling your fingers around and press in the area that hurts. You will notice that it will stop hurting to move your hand and grab things when you press in one certtain spot. This is the spot to put the pressure from the brace on.

These braces never seemed like much sense to me until it was explained like this. "The tendon is like a rubber band. Imagine holding a rubber band in your right hand with your thumb and index finger. You have 2 little loops on either side of your fingers. Then grab the left side and pull. You will notice the right loop of the rubber band doesn't move hardly at all. Now imagine this is your tendon. What a tennis elbow brace does is allow your tendon to still be partially used so your hand can function but allows the inflammed portion of it to get some much needed rest. "

I followed this advice and I rarely have any elbow problems. If I do, I hit this routine and it is back to 100% within 2-3 days at the most. If this doesn't work I can only assume you have another sort of problem or your tennis elbow is so progressed that you will have to see a dr for some more aggressive treatment (which you are already doing it seems) Just my 15 cents worth. :D
good post and great info
i had tennis elbow im my right arm and the pain was pretty intense like a burning stabbing pain when gripped something hard
i started using one of those tennis elbow braces and it worked very well.
i was able to train around this using ths brace and going alittle easier for alittle bit.
i also had very good results with deep ass massages on the tendon
yes it hurts,place your thumb on the thendon where it attaches to your elbow on the outside part of your arm and massaged from side to side and hard it will be sore alitle but it did seem to work
hope this helps ya bro
injurys suck especially when your an active individual,so if your having severe pains get it checked by a doc i never had mine check i pretty much self diagnosed myself with lots of research .i no olonger use the brace and havent felt the pain either in 8 -10 months
 
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