my first cylce, need help

[ryno9000]

wow im glad i asked you guys, everyone seems to have the same opinon on Fina on the first cylce.

How come is that, is it to strong?

I think the easiest analogy would be it is like someone who has never had a sip of alcohol before begin their drinking career with Everclear. Tren is very appealing, but you don't just jump into it. And, not flaming, but the fact that you thought Fina and Tren were seperate things that you were going to "stack" kinda shows you have some more reading to do anyway. Also, you will not gain 35lbs of keepable muscle, no way no how, so abondon that idea right away. You can maybe, maybe get 35lbs if you eat about 10 meals a day and take bloating orals like A-bombs or D-bol, but you won't "stay lean" as you say you want to. You kinda need to realize that there is some sacrifice that is going to be made in your goals. You can either go with slower, leaner and more "keepable" compounds but for an overall less size gain or you can balloon up fast and hard, not stay lean and lose some of that. It all depends on your dose, your diet and your level of knowledge in maintenence.

 

[anton28]

I think the easiest analogy would be it is like someone who has never had a sip of alcohol before begin their drinking career with Everclear. Tren is very appealing, but you don't just jump into it. And, not flaming, but the fact that you thought Fina and Tren were seperate things that you were going to "stack" kinda shows you have some more reading to do anyway. Also, you will not gain 35lbs of keepable muscle, no way no how, so abondon that idea right away. You can maybe, maybe get 35lbs if you eat about 10 meals a day and take bloating orals like A-bombs or D-bol, but you won't "stay lean" as you say you want to. You kinda need to realize that there is some sacrifice that is going to be made in your goals. You can either go with slower, leaner and more "keepable" compounds but for an overall less size gain or you can balloon up fast and hard, not stay lean and lose some of that. It all depends on your dose, your diet and your level of knowledge in maintenence.

Got it. I want my over all gain to be 35lbs i dont want to gain that in one cycle. I have taken forms of test and tren before. this what i have take

american cellular labs products
tren
vns-9
mass
estro