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A_TAYLOR_01

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Hello everyone,

I have been in the gym for about three years now and am wanting to start my first cycle and am not sure were to start. I have access to basically anything needed so if you can please let me know what cycle would give me the best results, any help would be appreciated.

My hieght:6'2"
weight:204
age:30
 
Bro, we realise you're excited about getting some quick results with gear, but you need to realise there is a lot involved when it comes to juicing. First of all, what is your goal? do u want to add size? shredd? simply lose some weight? wats ur BF%? wats ur diet like? what is your training like? (training routine / split)

My advice is always do some research on your own if it's your first cylce, and come back and post some carefully studied questions, so we can give you a more informative answer...

Please answer the above questions, do some research and we'll be more than happy to answer your questions and give you some advice :)

Good luck to you!
 
U came to the right place. Take alcatraz's advice.

Oh and upgrade to the plat membership. It will help immensely with research.
 
In your research you will find countless options. My avice is to use a long ester testosterone by itself for a first timer. Study up a lot on that.
 
First off my goal is to put on size.. My BF% is 18% and im on a diet that a buddy of mine who is a personal trainer recommended. As for training routing without going into detail 5 days a week 1-1 1/2 hrs. As for research were do I go to find out the info???? And thanks for the advice so far!!
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
First off my goal is to put on size.. My BF% is 18% and im on a diet that a buddy of mine who is a personal trainer recommended. As for training routing without going into detail 5 days a week 1-1 1/2 hrs. As for research were do I go to find out the info???? And thanks for the advice so far!!
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Google has a load of info.

Search steroid profiles and learn what each drug is, how to use it, and what potential side-effects you may be dealing with. Read up on threads in chat forums. The archives here are really good, but you need to be a platinum member to access them. Honestly, I don't know why as any other site allows you to access anything for free, but you get the E-books as well, which are loaded with information about steroids, cycles and everything in between and are worth the $$.
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
Thanks... I have already started researchin Dbol, test250, and deca which im told give good results. But I will continue..
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hopefully u will come across in your research that a test only cycle would be best the first time around.
 
Test only... Ive read that using only 1 thing isnt good. Ive read that you should use dbol to jump start for the first 4 weeks.(lol) This is why I came to this site for some real help. So if I were to do a test only cycle how long should i cycle it for?? And are we talking test 250??
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
Test only... Ive read that using only 1 thing isnt good. Ive read that you should use dbol to jump start for the first 4 weeks.(lol) This is why I came to this site for some real help. So if I were to do a test only cycle how long should i cycle it for?? And are we talking test 250??
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Not for a first cycle.

Dose 250-400mg 12weeks.

But, most guys will tell you to get bf down first. And, 3 yrs of traing is not enough. You can still make gains.
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
Test only... Ive read that using only 1 thing isnt good. Ive read that you should use dbol to jump start for the first 4 weeks.(lol) This is why I came to this site for some real help. So if I were to do a test only cycle how long should i cycle it for?? And are we talking test 250??
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where did u read that?
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
Test only... Ive read that using only 1 thing isnt good. Ive read that you should use dbol to jump start for the first 4 weeks.(lol) This is why I came to this site for some real help. So if I were to do a test only cycle how long should i cycle it for?? And are we talking test 250??
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I think you should also learn about ai's and pct bro. These will help you deal with any sides that may come up. Also help you recover after a cycle. They are very importent.
 
Also you came to the right place bro. You will find all the info you need on this site. Many of the mods,elite mentors and members are always willing to help. Often we tend to give the best answer for our (long term goals and health). We are always looking for people who are in it for the long hall. Not for the short gain.
 
all the whey said:
Not for a first cycle.

Dose 250-400mg 12weeks.

But, most guys will tell you to get bf down first. And, 3 yrs of traing is not enough. You can still make gains.
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realistically man, that is proly longer than the avg dude who starts joosing.
i'd peg the pre-cycle training at around 1 yr on avg
 
Bino said:
realistically man, that is proly longer than the avg dude who starts joosing.
i'd peg the pre-cycle training at around 1 yr on avg
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Maybe, but that is the main reason I stick around here.

3 yrs training is now where near reaching genetic limits. Dude could put on some more muscle and get bf down easily w/o juicing.
 
all the whey said:
Maybe, but that is the main reason I stick around here.

3 yrs training is now where near reaching genetic limits. Dude could put on some more muscle and get bf down easily w/o juicing.
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30 yrs old though...i'd say for the most part his gains have grinded down
i know mine have
 
I read that in a article while researching dbol. Like I said gentlemen I have never done a cycle in my life and really dont know where to start, thats why im here. So I know nothing at all..

Once again thank you for you help.
 
Here's my 2c if you want...

I would do AT MINIMUM 1-2 months of research before anything. Like the others have stated, you need to know which compounds do what, also different ai's and why you use them, PCT and other stuff.

I'm a noobie but I can honestly say that without the help of the members here and doing a ton of research I would have easily screwed myself up REAL good by now.

Find posts by some of the members here and find a mentor, needto and 8and20 are both good and will help you out a lot.

Welcome and let the homework begin.
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
I read that in a article while researching dbol. Like I said gentlemen I have never done a cycle in my life and really dont know where to start, thats why im here. So I know nothing at all..

Once again thank you for you help.
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Test only is GOOD. Anything else by itself for a first time NOT as good.


Remember all these steroids are all derivatives of testosterone. Testosterone (not a steroid technically) is what the body knows, and giving a higher dose of it without any synthetics will give awesome results. Reduced fat, more muscle and strength.
 
Bino said:
30 yrs old though...i'd say for the most part his gains have grinded down
i know mine have
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You can still make gains after 30. Especially, if you have only been training and eating right a few yrs.


You look like you have been training more than a few yrs.
 
take my advice and listen to the bros 1st cycle test only ! do more research on other compounds. check out AIs & anti-es.good luck bro
 
First Cycle.

250Mg Sustanon twice a week. Weeks 1 -10 Monday and thurs inject

250Mg Deca once a week. Weeks 1-10 Monday inject

Clomid PCT.

Simple and effective. Was my first i loved it.
 
Not a Ai but i beleive a pct is post cycle therapy correct??

So for a first cycle test would be good

Then
1 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
2 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
3 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
4 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
5 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
6 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
7 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
8 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
9 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca2300 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
10 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
11 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
12 Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
13 Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
14 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
15 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
16 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
 
There is to many compounds for first cycle its not needed , just test bro .

And im not a fan of nlova with decca or as a in cycle ai sub, and theres no mg on the clomid .50mg is all thats needed

But you have got the drive to learn mate what else you got .

brad.
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
Not a Ai but i beleive a pct is post cycle therapy correct??

So for a first cycle test would be good

Then
1 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
2 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
3 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
4 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg D-Bol/35 mg/day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
5 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
6 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
7 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
8 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
9 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca2300 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
10 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Deca/200 - 400 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
11 Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
12 Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
13 Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
14 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
15 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
16 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
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This pisses me off...seriously its like people dont fucking listen....here see if you can hear me now......ALL OF THESE GUYS GAVE YOU ADVICE, THE SAME ADVICE AND YET YOU STILL POST UP SOME SHIT YOU PROBABLY GOOGLED AND DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IT IS OR WHAT IT DOES TO YOU OR WHAT TO TAKE TO DEAL WITH THE SIDE EFFECTS.....you got it now? Read more before your first cycle...train more get diet in check....and dont use all those compounds for your first cycle its too much if u have a problem you wont know what is causing it....for fuck sake bro you asked for advice it was given to you but you have your heart set....dont ask for advice if your not going to take it
 
Welcome to the boards bro. You will find yourself right at home here.

You are the right age to start juicing assuming you have a solid knowledge of how to train and diet when bodybuilding.

Remember, once you get in this game you will not want to get out. Its one of the few positive addictions out there.

A nice newbie first cycle is:

Test-E 250mg EW 8 weeks (shoot mondays and thursdays or equivalent)
dbol 30mg ED weeks 1-4
nolvadex 30mg ED throughout

clomid 50mg ED for 3 weeks 2 weeks after your last shot.
dermacrine alpha 2 weeks after last shot until the bottle is gone

drink 1 gallon of water ED
consume 2g of protein per lb of body weight ED throughout
milk thistle or a liver detox supplement of your choice throughout
stay away from simple carbs
complex carbs are fine

Good luck!
 
Thank you to everybody giving me positive advice. And yes I googled alot of stuff and I will make mistakes but its nice to have people who understand that my knowledge of this stuff is nill.... As for ENACER420 if you can read the shit I cut and pasted would be my second cycle, strictly test for my first( but as I said before i know nothing) so those who understood that guided me in the right direction!! Its assholes like you ENACER420 that should just stay out of it!! Im a newbie and I will make mistakes.
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
Thank you to everybody giving me positive advice. And yes I googled alot of stuff and I will make mistakes but its nice to have people who understand that my knowledge of this stuff is nill.... As for ENACER420 if you can read the shit I cut and pasted would be my second cycle, strictly test for my first( but as I said before i know nothing) so those who understood that guided me in the right direction!! Its assholes like you ENACER420 that should just stay out of it!! Im a newbie and I will make mistakes.
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[/QUOTE] So if I were to do a test only cycle how long should i cycle it for?? And are we talking test 250??My First Cycle

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Hello everyone,

I have been in the gym for about three years now and am wanting to start my first cycle and am not sure were to start.

Assholes like me? Im trying to tell you to LISTEN to what people are telling you before you make a mistake and your just not hearing it...Im not going to argue with you because its retarded your post is "MY FIRST CYCLE" ....oh so the stuff you copy and pasted about test/deca/dbol is what your planning for your second cycle? Wow you dont even know everything you need to for your first test cycle and now your planning your second one? w/e
 
ENACER420 im not going to just do it... Im trying to figure out what I need to take on my first,second, third whatever cycle. Im not planning on anything yet!!! As for you trying to help... yelling and stating that i dont know what im doing is not helping... obviously I dont know and am trying to figure out with the help of experience individuals!! Im not stupid to just buy shit and stick it in me because Its posted on the net, that why im here. Soooo I'd appreciate if you(YES YOU) could stop commenting on this post as you do nothing to help me, and I will take the advice of people who understand that I dont know what im doing and am trying to figure out!!
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
ENACER420 im not going to just do it... Im trying to figure out what I need to take on my first,second, third whatever cycle. Im not planning on anything yet!!! As for you trying to help... yelling and stating that i dont know what im doing is not helping... obviously I dont know and am trying to figure out with the help of experience individuals!! Im not stupid to just buy shit and stick it in me because Its posted on the net, that why im here. Soooo I'd appreciate if you(YES YOU) could stop commenting on this post as you do nothing to help me, and I will take the advice of people who understand that I dont know what im doing and am trying to figure out!!
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You dont listen for shit...I know you dont know what your doing and thats why your here....im fine with that I was actually trying to help in the begining by telling you to get diet and training in check and read more....but YOU were given advice then you keep posting up shit for a second cycle before you know what your doing with your first one...this pisses me off I see newbies come and go just like you they ask for advice and dont listen because its not what they wanna hear, thats how you come off when your given advice....you dont make any acknowledgments to peoples advice, people told you things about your first cycle and your posting shit from google about a test/deca/dbol cycle....why would you be talking about your second cycle in your "my first cycle" post?
 
If you read i acknowledged using test alone for my first cycle... anyway this can go back and forth forever sooo.... Im taking the advice of others and taking test to start and will return later. Thank you
 
A_TAYLOR_01 said:
Hello everyone,

I have been in the gym for about three years now and am wanting to start my first cycle and am not sure were to start. I have access to basically anything needed so if you can please let me know what cycle would give me the best results, any help would be appreciated.

My hieght:6'2"
weight:204
age:30
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500 mg's test per week for 10 weeks, Aromasin throughout, PCT.
 
The reason everyone is advising to use one compound is because this being your first cycle your going to respond better than you ever will again, unless you stay off for along time. using one compound at a low dose will give you very good results and keeps the door open for future cycles working very well also because you can then add more compounds at higher doses until you reach a point where your not dosing higher but adding and/or switching up your compounds based on what works the best for you. also, as someone pointed out earlier, if your having issues you wont know which compound it is if you have 2 or more in your cycle and you wont know if one of the compounds is giving the better results. heres my opinion;
wk 1-8 250mg test enanthate shot 1 x per week.
wk 4-8 250 iu hcg shot 2x per wk, this will make pct easier
have arimidex on hand incase you develop gyno and use as needed but no more than 1 tab per day.
wk 9-14 arimidex at 1 tab per day
wk 10 - 14 sustain alpha as directed
toco-8 as directed
phosphatidylerine ( use P.P. brand)
Theres also other products like unleashed, post cycle, creatine to help with recovery. At the lose dose you will be using your pct should not be that dificult but why chance it. alot of people advise using clomid but i personaly hate the stuff. i tried it once and it actually made my gyno worse. youll get alot of conflicting opinions but the advise i have to give is to start out with a conservative dose as you have the rest of your life to figure this out and if you can get good gains on 250mg why use 500mg ? also, do your research on your diet. i know your getting advise form a friend whom is a nutritionist but it cant hurt to do your own research. AND, visit the training sections to make sure your getting the most out of your training.
 
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