My first cycle

[brahma_bull]

I'm planning this badboy months in advance to get as much feedback as possible. I've been researching for a long time, so here goes.

[12 Week Cycle]

Wk 1-2 800mg EQ
Wk 3-12 400mg EQ
Wk 1-12 500mg Test enth
Wk 10-12 50mg ed proviron

[PCT]

WK 12 3000IU HCG
WK 13 3000IU HCG
WK 14 3000IU HCG
WK 15 1500IU HCG/40mg ed Nolva
WK 16 1500IU HCG/40mg ed Nolva
WK 17 20mg ed Nolva
WK 18 20mg ed Nolva

Of course vitamins and tylers liver detox will be used throughout as well as other supps. I was also thinking about maybe dropping the proviron down to 25mg ed for weeks 6-12

What does everyone think?

 

[ElMatador]

Nolva 20-30mg wk 2-12
HCG 3000IU wk 14-16
it is my opinion...

 

[brahma_bull]

bump!!

 

[brahma_bull]

ttt!!!

 

[Baywatch69]

Well, as it's your first cycle and your only using moderate dosages I dont feel HCG will be needed.

Dont see any real advantage in running proviron for 2 weeks?

For nolva PCT i run it like this:

Day 1 - 60mg ED
Days 2-11 - 40mg ED
Days 12-21 - 20mg ED

Apart from that it looks good, keep protein high, plenty of rest and train hard and I'm sure you will be more than pleased.

 

[BOOEY]

When using Test Enth you need to wait 2 weeks after your last shot and then start PCT, not right after. Other than that, it looks good. Maybe run the proviron weeks 10-14, ending it right before you start pct.

 

[BOOEY]

Oh and follow baywatch's advice for pct - the nolva should be run all the way through

 

[shamrock11]

I would extend the EQ another two weeks, just a preference though. Other than that look fine. Also thyat much HCG is not needed. Two weeks maybe since this is a fairly moderate cycle

 

[brahma_bull]

When using Test Enth you need to wait 2 weeks after your last shot and then start PCT, not right after. Other than that, it looks good. Maybe run the proviron weeks 10-14, ending it right before you start pct.

HCG under PCT is a little misleading. I've read that starting HCG a day or 2 after your last shot will kickstart your nat testosterone production. So it would be HCG on week 12, then 5 days after that, 5 or 6 after that, and 5 or 6 after that being the last HCG shot, nothing else being taken. By the time i've taken the last HCG shot, it would be time for real PCT to begin with Nolva, about 3 weeks after my last shot. My chart might be a little confusing.

 

[brahma_bull]

I would extend the EQ another two weeks, just a preference though. Other than that look fine. Also thyat much HCG is not needed. Two weeks maybe since this is a fairly moderate cycle

Any specific reason? For some more vascularity/lean muscle?

 

[brahma_bull]

Oh and follow baywatch's advice for pct - the nolva should be run all the way through

I'm a newbie so to speak so every bit of advice helps, but i've never heard of nolva being run through an entire cycle. Anyone else care to comment on it? Not doubting you at all, just like to hear some others experience.

 

[ElMatador]

When you use lot of test. some estrogen appears in your body so,you should use some anti-e's during the cycle...that is reason...

 

[ruggermu]

Any specific reason? For some more vascularity/lean muscle?

I'm pretty sure his reason is that it takes forever for EQ to kick in

 

[brahma_bull]

I'm pretty sure his reason is that it takes forever for EQ to kick in

That's the reason i have it at 800mg in the first 2 weeks to frontload with a heavier dosage.

 

[BOOEY]

I'm a newbie so to speak so every bit of advice helps, but i've never heard of nolva being run through an entire cycle. Anyone else care to comment on it? Not doubting you at all, just like to hear some others experience.

You should run some sort of anti-e with your cycle. Some run a small dose of Nolva throughout, others use a-dex/l-dex.

 

[brahma_bull]

You should run some sort of anti-e with your cycle. Some run a small dose of Nolva throughout, others use a-dex/l-dex.

If i ran something through the entire cycle i would be tempted to go with nolva. From what i have read and researched over the past year or so armidex would be to strong and might interfere with my gains, as some estrogen during a cycle is actually a good thing, and shutting it down totally can be a bad thing and squash gains. ???