My First Cycle.finally!

[punisha]

hey everyone!
This is my first cycle i will be running

Test e week 1-10 @500mg/pw
Dbol week 1-4 @30mg/ed
Nolva Week 13-14 @40mg/ed
Nolva week 15-16 @20mg/ed
+B12 shots e4d

My stats
24 yrs
5'9"
200lbs
8% bf
Training exp 7yrs off/on

have all my gear.not sure if ill put dbol in or not/opinions?
i just have to get my bloodwork done then ill begin.
ill be getting these tests done.

-Total testosterone
-Sex hormone binding globulin
-oestradiol
-LH
-Prolactin

 

[Dogfox]

Less nolva in the PCT. HCG on cycle.
arimidex/aromasin on hand if needed.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Do the dbol I loved it. And if theres side effects right away you can drop it. Looks like u got a solid base, congrats bro youll love the cycle

 

[punisha]

Less nolva in the PCT. HCG on cycle.
arimidex/aromasin on hand if needed.

yea thats a point will wait till i have the Hcg aswell.will just be using nolva incase of gyno flares and pct tho.
what do you guys think regarding hcg dosage 500iu/wk?when to begin and finish it?

 

[punisha]

hows that?

wk 1-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily+
wk 2-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily+500iu HCG
wk 3-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily+500iu HCG
wk 4-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily+500iu HCG
wk 5-500mg test e+500iu HCG
wk 6-500mg test e+500iu HCG
wk 7-500mg test e+500iu HCG
wk 8-500mg test e+500iu HCG
wk 9-500mg test e+500iu HCG
wk 10-500mg test e+500iu HCG
wk 11-
wk 12-
wk 13-nolva 40mg daily
wk 14-nolva 40mg daily
wk 15-nolva 20mg daily
wk 16-nolva 20mg daily

might have to use hcg at a lower dose can only get my hands on 1500iu kits and a bit pricy round here.can i get away with a lower dosage?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Maybe run the HCG all the way until PCT, so run it till week 12/13.

doseage is fine, 250iu 2x a week is what im about to start in a couple days.

 

[punisha]

what are your views on doing the cycle without hcg?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Well i did my first one without HCG, i think it just made recovery harder. My balls stayed the same size tho. So im doing it so my PCT goes better.

 

[punisha]

yeah that will probly the route i take this time round.the price is ultra high here and its only 1500iu.
i sure as hell cant afford 3x 1500iu.
so how could i stretch 1500iu?save till last three weeks 500iu/wk?or 3 500iu shots in final wk?any ideas
wk 1-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily
wk 2-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily
wk 3-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily
wk 4-500mg test e+30mg dbol daily
wk 5-500mg test e
wk 6-500mg test e
wk 7-500mg test e
wk 8-500mg test e+500iu Hcg) >
wk 9-500mg test e+500iu Hcg) >
wk 10-500mg test e+500iu Hcg) > OR <+500iu/500iu/500iu Hcg
wk 11-
wk 12-
wk 13-nolva 40mg daily
wk 14-nolva 40mg daily
wk 15-nolva 20mg daily
wk 16-nolva 20mg daily

 

[mrplunkey]

500 mg/week is on the upper range of a first cycle dosage. Even 300-375 would be very beneficial.

I'd include Armidex EoD at 0.5mg beginning at week 3 and ending around week 12-13.

 

[Dogfox]

20 mgs nolva increases endogenous T by 150%. Theres no need for 40mgs...as stated earlier

 

[RADAR]

500 mg/week is on the upper range of a first cycle dosage. Even 300-375 would be very beneficial.

I'd include Armidex EoD at 0.5mg beginning at week 3 and ending around week 12-13.

Why? He may not even be prone to gyno ,using it will inhibit gains ,but it's better to have it and not need it,then to need it and not have it!


RADAR

 

[mrplunkey]

Why? He may not even be prone to gyno ,using it will inhibit gains ,but it's better to have it and not need it,then to need it and not have it!


RADAR

I'd do it just to keep aromatized estrogen in check. I've always been prescribed 0.5 mg adex EOD starting at week three, even with a whimpy 200 mg/week of cypionate.

That does bring-up an interesting theory I'd like to test. Guys always associate prop with less bloat and cyp with more bloat. I have to wonder if the bloat actually comes from the steady accumulation of the longer-lasting ester. It's clear that prop kicks-in faster, but it also dissipates faster. I wonder if guys doing slower esters should do anti-estrogens later and slowly ramp them up toward the end of their cycles.

 

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