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My First (Bulking) Cycle Test E

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FortyTillFive

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Whats up fellas? I am new to this particular board...but not to the game. I am 22 y/o..been lifting consistently for 6 years now. I have made the decision to hit the gas. I am 5'10 195 lbs. w/ around ~13% bodyfat. I consume roughly 3500 calories and keep my diet clean consisting of 6 meals a day. I have been plateauing over the last 6 months in my "core" lifts of Bench/Deadlift/Power Cleans/Squats. I have dropped 30 lbs. of fat since January.

I will be taking Test E 300 mg/ml for 12-14 weeks.

For Ancilaries I have Arimidex, Nolvadex, and HCG 500iu 2x/week

Week 1-12: Test Enth 300mg 2x/week = 600 mg of Test...(Injections every 1st and 4th Day)

Week 4-8: Dianabol 30mg/day

Week 14-15: Nolvadex 40 mg/day

Week 16-17: Nolvadex 20 mg/day


Any suggestions welcome.
 
Rage-Of-Sparta said:
kickstart the cycle with the dbol during weeks 1-4. this should give you some nice quick strength and size gains while the test is building up in your system
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I would, but unfortunately, I am pre-dispositoned to hair loss:mad:

I have 200 dbol. Maybe I can take 25-30 mg/day and avoid sides. I would like to take it, but If I start losing my hair, I won't know if its the test or the dbol.
 
you will have to wait 3 to 4 weeeks to knw if its the test making you lose the hair because that is how long it will take to kick in due to the long acting ester.
with the dbol you should knw in a couple days and u can stop using it and it will clear your system fast
at 22 u should have a full head of hair
is it really worth being bald at your age?
if so, just shave that shiot!!!
 
FortyTillFive said:
I would, but unfortunately, I am pre-dispositoned to hair loss:mad:

I have 200 dbol. Maybe I can take 25-30 mg/day and avoid sides. I would like to take it, but If I start losing my hair, I won't know if its the test or the dbol.
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Hey, bro. I would run Test only your first time out. Please be advised that test can do as much as Dbol regarding your hair abandoning ship. Save dbol for next time.

I would run a lower dose Test at your size / experience.
400mg/wk @ 200mg Monday/Thursday is plenty. 600 is too much and a waste of gear. You can run Nolvadex, but Adex or Aromasin are better produccts, IMO. Have it on hand. Run a very low dose and be mindful of your tits: itching, swelling. Nizrol shampoo work well to block DHT, but no guarantee's.

Also , you should be eatting more like 5000 calories a day. High protein, low carb, low fat. 6 meals /day.
 
halfcenturian said:
Hey, bro. I would run Test only your first time out. Please be advised that test can do as much as Dbol regarding your hair abandoning ship. Save dbol for next time.

I would run a lower dose Test at your size / experience.
400mg/wk @ 200mg Monday/Thursday is plenty. 600 is too much and a waste of gear. You can run Nolvadex, but Adex or Aromasin are better produccts, IMO. Have it on hand. Run a very low dose and be mindful of your tits: itching, swelling. Nizrol shampoo work well to block DHT, but no guarantee's.

Also , you should be eatting more like 5000 calories a day. High protein, low carb, low fat. 6 meals /day.
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Thanks for the help, Bro. The concentration is 300 mg/mL, so I don't want to inject variably every week, so I'll just pin 1 mL every 4 days. I have plenty of gear, not a problem.

I know everybody's different when it comes to Macros as far as my diet is concerned.

Would 60/20/20 be sustainable? Or should I be putting more carbs in?

I eat chicken breasts, lean red meat, and have plenty of protein sources.

I eat cans of tuna, nuts etc. for some healthy fats along with a Fish Oil supp.

Just wonder what my carb sources should be. Rice, potatoes, etc.
 
FortyTillFive said:
Thanks for the help, Bro. The concentration is 300 mg/mL, so I don't want to inject variably every week, so I'll just pin 1 mL every 4 days. I have plenty of gear, not a problem.

I know everybody's different when it comes to Macros as far as my diet is concerned.

Would 60/20/20 be sustainable? Or should I be putting more carbs in?

I eat chicken breasts, lean red meat, and have plenty of protein sources.

I eat cans of tuna, nuts etc. for some healthy fats along with a Fish Oil supp.

Just wonder what my carb sources should be. Rice, potatoes, etc.
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Its pretty easy to figure out doses. Just do 2/3 of a ml twice a week. You really don't need 600mgs of test you will be wasting it.

Listen to what Halfcenturan said, he knows whats up!
 
listen to halfcenturians advice,,, he said exactly what i woulda said perfect advice for you brother....
 
FortyTillFive said:
Whats up fellas? I am new to this particular board...but not to the game. I am 22 y/o..been lifting consistently for 6 years now. I have made the decision to hit the gas. I am 5'10 195 lbs. w/ around ~13% bodyfat. I consume roughly 3500 calories and keep my diet clean consisting of 6 meals a day. I have been plateauing over the last 6 months in my "core" lifts of Bench/Deadlift/Power Cleans/Squats. I have dropped 30 lbs. of fat since January.

I will be taking Test E 300 mg/ml for 12-14 weeks.

For Ancilaries I have Arimidex, Nolvadex, and HCG 500iu 2x/week

Week 1-12: Test Enth 300mg 2x/week = 600 mg of Test...(Injections every 1st and 4th Day)

Week 1-4: Dianabol 30mg/day
week 3-14 hcg 500iu 2x/week
Week 14-15: Nolvadex 40 mg/day

Week 16-17: Nolvadex 20 mg/day

Any suggestions welcome.
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adex only use if you start carrying to much water or nips get sensitive.... .25 is usually good eod

you seem to of done a good job researching! 1 of the best put together cycles ive seen posted froma newb in a while! :)
 
FortyTillFive said:
Do these actually work?

I have Nolva for PCT.
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nolva for pct is sufficient....
you can add on pp products(sustain alpha does work well!) to assist in recovery...but do not replace real medical drugs for otc...
 
well im planning the same cycle only im doing 500mg a week 250mg monday and 500 mg on saturdays and im not using d bol my cycle is 10 weeks I have my arimidex and my gonakor the only question is I was going to take clomid...i have clomid already...It will be better to get nolvadex?
 
peligroso said:
well im planning the same cycle only im doing 500mg a week 250mg monday and 500 mg on saturdays and im not using d bol my cycle is 10 weeks I have my arimidex and my gonakor the only question is I was going to take clomid...i have clomid already...It will be better to get nolvadex?
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why these doses like that? your doign 250 on mon then 500 on sat? should be shot mon / thurs and you should split your dose even between the shots...
get some nolva and use that for pct
 
Rage-Of-Sparta said:
wait on the adex and see what happens.
if you start getting itchy nips or worse a lump then start taking it. if your bloat gets really bad too take some.
take your AIs only if you need them.
.25ed to 1mg ed is the usual dosages
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I definatly agree. I wouldn't suggest taking any AI's unless you need to (or during PCT). I've tried taking .25mg Adex ED while on cycle in the past and I started to lose weight and my stregth stopped increasing.
 
fbodyguy02 said:
I definatly agree. I wouldn't suggest taking any AI's unless you need to (or during PCT). I've tried taking .25mg Adex ED while on cycle in the past and I started to lose weight and my stregth stopped increasing.
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I hear this a lot. Although i gained pure 15-18 lbs mass in my first cycle, I should have gained more because I am 6-4 and have very wide structure. I used 0.5 mg adex EOD so same as yours.

Can you tell me more about your experinces with anti-aromatese use??

thanks
 
well my this is my first cycle is 10 weeks 500 mg every week of test E and 25 mg dbol the first 4 weeks ...I have arimidex already pregnyl and clomid...but for this cycle is better to get tomoxifen? for post cycle?
 
nolva is better for pct...yes..
how do you plan to run it?
 
peligroso said:
4 weeks 40 mg every day
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sure it will be fine...i just did
10 days 60mged
11 days 40mged
worked well so i think!!gonna get soem bloodwork in a month see whats really up
 
Not to be rude and I realize you've been lifting for a while but at only 195 have you considered a basic barbell routine and 4500-5000k calories a day? 3500 cals per day won't put muscle on

The results might be similar to a Test E cycle without the injections.

-Bob
 
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