My final analysis: IP vs. BD tbol

[krishna]

I know some of you aren't gonna want to hear this, but I think the IP tbol I did was just as good as the BD tbol. I actually gained more off of the IP tbol, and was hornier too! Now granted I ran 25 mg of IP proviron with the IP tbol which may explain the libido issue, but I've been running 600mg of EQ with the BD tbol, and have had less weight gain. I was on a calorie deficit diet both times, which explains my minimal gains each time. I did get harder and veinier both times though. I just switched to IP winny with my EQ, and it is good shit too! So far, I've had no complaints about IP gear, and I've even tested myself and compared it to other brands. The only reason I bought IP was to compare it and try it for myself. I am not the least bit disappointed.

 

[asianlover]

good to know

 

[DieselGunz]

interesting, first time in a while something good was said about IP.

 

[Retabolil2]

I know some of you aren't gonna want to hear this, but I think the IP tbol I did was just as good as the BD tbol. I actually gained more off of the IP tbol, and was hornier too! Now granted I ran 25 mg of IP proviron with the IP tbol which may explain the libido issue, but I've been running 600mg of EQ with the BD tbol, and have had less weight gain. I was on a calorie deficit diet both times, which explains my minimal gains each time. I did get harder and veinier both times though. I just switched to IP winny with my EQ, and it is good shit too! So far, I've had no complaints about IP gear, and I've even tested myself and compared it to other brands. The only reason I bought IP was to compare it and try it for myself. I am not the least bit disappointed.

my friend IP is known as most shitty garbage out there. Yes its true all UG products suck compared to human grade stuff like Deca-Durabolin, Sustanon or Primo. UG orals are ok but out of all UG injectibles I only use tren, bold and masteron because there are no human grade analogues.
If you got good batch of IP tbol is doesnt make IP look good in general.
One more thing. I`ve been on low carb diet. YOU WONT WANT TO FUCK PAMELA ANDERSON ON LOW CARB DIET! Only test may help in that case and doesnt do magic either. So I explain your increased libido by increased amount of methyltest in IP orals. I was one of the first users of Tbol when it appeared on the market, its almost as good as Tren for your libido if you know what I mean. in other words it doesnt make you horny especially on low carb diet.

 

[bigtravis]

now Ret. you know that any company that sends you a complimentary suntan lotion bottle with every order can't be too bad. LOL LOL!

 

[krishna]

my friend IP is known as most shitty garbage out there. Yes its true all UG products suck compared to human grade stuff like Deca-Durabolin, Sustanon or Primo. UG orals are ok but out of all UG injectibles I only use tren, bold and masteron because there are no human grade analogues.
If you got good batch of IP tbol is doesnt make IP look good in general.
One more thing. I`ve been on low carb diet. YOU WONT WANT TO FUCK PAMELA ANDERSON ON LOW CARB DIET! Only test may help in that case and doesnt do magic either. So I explain your increased libido by increased amount of methyltest in IP orals. I was one of the first users of Tbol when it appeared on the market, its almost as good as Tren for your libido if you know what I mean. in other words it doesnt make you horny especially on low carb diet.

A lot of people have said that tbol makes them horny. So you think it was methyltest instead?

 

[trinidad]

The IP debate rages on.....It's been a few years since I've last used IP gear and it is still the best cycle results that I have had to date.

 

[boops]

The IP debate rages on.....It's been a few years since I've last used IP gear and it is still the best cycle results that I have had to date.

easy way to squash the debate is pick up some IP, which for the money isnt all that much to try, and give it a go yourself......you have heard the saying opinions are like assholes, everyones got one well out of all those opinions some come from people who just read this shit on here and never try IP or whatever for themselves....the same can be said for the test vs deca debate that raged on this very board for how long, dont knock it till you tired it......

 

[krishna]

easy way to squash the debate is pick up some IP, which for the money isnt all that much to try, and give it a go yourself......you have heard the saying opinions are like assholes, everyones got one well out of all those opinions some come from people who just read this shit on here and never try IP or whatever for themselves....the same can be said for the test vs deca debate that raged on this very board for how long, dont knock it till you tired it......

Yep that's what I did!

 

[jacked clown]

I have heard rumors that some IP products are combined with other products as well...

 

[UFC22]

Everyone has good and bad experienced w/ IP. IP orals are known to yield great results from most of the people I heard using them. It totally depends on the supplier for the most part!

 

[mendo]

I've never tried IP myself, but have talked to many who have and this is the first good thing I've heard about it. As for libido, AAS effects people differently, but there is no question Tbol increases my libido. At 50mg/day its almost as dramatic as test and it hits me in just a few days. Its definitely much less noticable when I'm on a cutting diet though.

 

[Anthony Starks]

I've never tried IP myself, but have talked to many who have and this is the first good thing I've heard about it. As for libido, AAS effects people differently, but there is no question Tbol increases my libido. At 50mg/day its almost as dramatic as test and it hits me in just a few days. Its definitely much less noticable when I'm on a cutting diet though.

If its really the first good thing you've heard about about IP, you should start paying better attention. Even on EF, which is much more anti-IP than most boards (probably because of who is on it and that they don't carry IP), you still hear good things about IP orals. I know I just finished a 10 week IP Var cycle with great results.

IP has been around the longest, has been tested the most, and gives the best prices around. Good for the consumer, bad for anyone else trying to make a living off other AAS products.

By the way, I'm on another board, get swole dot com, and we paid ourselves to have IP Var tested. Its listed at 14.4mg, and our tabs had 14.4mg in them, just like he lists on his website. Why would you pay much more for tabs with the exact same active ingredient in them (if you're lucky)?

 

[mendo]

If its really the first good thing you've heard about about IP, you should start paying better attention. Even on EF, which is much more anti-IP than most boards (probably because of who is on it and that they don't carry IP), you still hear good things about IP orals. I know I just finished a 10 week IP Var cycle with great results.

IP has been around the longest, has been tested the most, and gives the best prices around. Good for the consumer, bad for anyone else trying to make a living off other AAS products.

By the way, I'm on another board, get swole dot com, and we paid ourselves to have IP Var tested. Its listed at 14.4mg, and our tabs had 14.4mg in them, just like he lists on his website. Why would you pay much more for tabs with the exact same active ingredient in them (if you're lucky)?

Interesting. That makes 2 good things I've heard about it. The more feedback the better...

 

[krishna]

Plus two top notch suppliers I know carry and advocate his stuff. These are suppliers which also carry other known gear that we all agree is quality stuff--QV, GTP, BD, etc.
Maybe my success with IP is due to the fact that it comes from a good supplier.

 

[boops]

Plus two top notch suppliers I know carry and advocate his stuff. These are suppliers which also carry other known gear that we all agree is quality stuff--QV, GTP, BD, etc.
Maybe my success with IP is due to the fact that it comes from a good supplier.[/QUOTE]

or "maybe" your success was due to the fact you actually tried it yourself and didnt just listen to the "experts" with high post counts......

 

[Anthony Starks]

Plus two top notch suppliers I know carry and advocate his stuff. These are suppliers which also carry other known gear that we all agree is quality stuff--QV, GTP, BD, etc.
Maybe my success with IP is due to the fact that it comes from a good supplier.[/QUOTE]

or "maybe" your success was due to the fact you actually tried it yourself and didnt just listen to the "experts" with high post counts......

Well said.

 

[boops]

Well said.

thanks bro, i just wish people would take what they read here and not think it be the holy grial of all info..i am by no means always right but usually when i say things its based on what i have tried myself which FOR ME either worked or didnt, i dont want to answer someone based on something i know nothing about.....i mean i may ruffle a few feathers along the way but so be it as long as i change at least some persons view on the way they interpret
what they read here......

 

[doyouyahoo]

If its really the first good thing you've heard about about IP, you should start paying better attention. Even on EF, which is much more anti-IP than most boards (probably because of who is on it and that they don't carry IP), you still hear good things about IP orals. I know I just finished a 10 week IP Var cycle with great results.

IP has been around the longest, has been tested the most, and gives the best prices around. Good for the consumer, bad for anyone else trying to make a living off other AAS products.

By the way, I'm on another board, get swole dot com, and we paid ourselves to have IP Var tested. Its listed at 14.4mg, and our tabs had 14.4mg in them, just like he lists on his website. Why would you pay much more for tabs with the exact same active ingredient in them (if you're lucky)?

At least his HCG is affordable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[64Pilot]

I love IP orals...Lets break this down

I have personally bought 1K bags of tabs from IP back in the day. The tabs are made for him. They were in the original bags from one of the pharm companies in China. Unfortunately it is obvious that the oils are made by his little elves. The oils work, but IMO are not the cleanest out there...

Take this advice. Watch the people that trash IP's name. 98% they have a vested interest elsewhere. Look at Ret, he is an awesome guy, and always has been. However, do you think he wants you to buy IP? No, and if I were in his shoes, I wouldnt want you buying IP goods either.

 

[Retabolil2]

A lot of people have said that tbol makes them horny. So you think it was methyltest instead?

I`m sure most of these users were running something else along with tbol, right? I ran tbol alone and tbol with var. both times I had decreased libido. I had to add some test prop to get back to normal. yes I think it was methyltest.

 

[64Pilot]

I`m sure most of these users were running something else along with tbol, right? I ran tbol alone and tbol with var. both times I had decreased libido. I had to add some test prop to get back to normal. yes I think it was methyltest.

Ret what doses were you running the Tbol adn Var at? how were the results?

 

[Retabolil2]

Ret what doses were you running the Tbol adn Var at? how were the results?

150mg of each ed. Its best stack for cutting I ever tried Doesnt help me to build mass as I`m used to higher dosages of dbol which stronger.