My fina experience sucked!

[trinidad]

I don't get it.....7 weeks of eod inj. and all I got were sore nipples and bad night sweats!! No gains at all! It was homebrew, finafarm.com for the kit, online vet for the tabs......anybody have any ideas?? Also was running 500 mgs. test a wk. and 50 mgs. proviron ed. I actually started the test/prov 4 wks. before the tren and had gained 10 lbs. which is where I stayed. Then began running the tren along with it. First batch was a little weaker than the second....80 mgs. compared to upping it 100 mgs.

 

[envies]

Sorry to hear that, how could fina cause your gains to just stop, figured you would still be gaining off 500mg test even w/o the fina. looking forward to what the others say.

 

[trinidad]

My top weight is 250 lbs. I was down to 240 off cycle and knew that the test would put me right back up to the 250 mark but I expected so much from the fina and it just never happened.....

 

[Izzman]

I am also running fina @ 50mgs EOD with prop/M1T and am in week 4.5 and aside from some insomnia and mild night sweats, I really am not experiencing much, I mean this could be due to the fact that I am cutting and running a keto type diet, but where are the wicked strength gains I hear so much of? I can understand no LBM gain, especially when a cutting on a low cal diet, but no strength gain as well and even some strength loss? I was thinking that maybe the fina really works it magic at doses of 75mgs or higher, but your post dismissed that for me. I am highly dissapointed as well and don't think Ill be running it again in the future. If the fina is doing one thing right, it sure is breaking me out like a mofo! Hairloss is dandy too!

 

[majutsu]

don't sweat it bro -- I've had same reaction twice. I like it the first week or two, then the minimal gains quit and I get displaced crabbiness and wicked acne. Doesn't seem test-like as a gram of sust doesn't do this. I have a crazy theory that the yellow dye is toxic to me. I have seen dye reactions, usually in children but occasionally adults, ranging from psychosis to pure physiologic chaos, particularly red dye #5 (industrial) and yellow dyes. I do well with every other aas I've tried, primo/deca/eq/test/dbol/anavar (except winny from joint pain). Plus I like it at first . . . Anyway, I think some aspect of the homebrew process (same kits), either the dye in the pellets, the methylcellulose, the BA, whatever, screws something up, or that the kits really extract much less than the 80/ they advertise. I remember seeing a great thread where a chemist talked about the unfeasability, chemically, of extracting the trenbolone in the volumes of solvents used. Anyway, I think I will try laboratory trenbolone one time before I write it off. I just want you to know tren turned on me twice, and in general, was disappointing in the end.

 

[Izzman]

don't sweat it bro -- I've had same reaction twice. I like it the first week or two, then the minimal gains quit and I get displaced crabbiness and wicked acne. Doesn't seem test-like as a gram of sust doesn't do this. I have a crazy theory that the yellow dye is toxic to me. I have seen dye reactions, usually in children but occasionally adults, ranging from psychosis to pure physiologic chaos, particularly red dye #5 (industrial) and yellow dyes. I do well with every other aas I've tried, primo/deca/eq/test/dbol/anavar (except winny from joint pain). Plus I like it at first . . . Anyway, I think some aspect of the homebrew process (same kits), either the dye in the pellets, the methylcellulose, the BA, whatever, screws something up, or that the kits really extract much less than the 80/ they advertise. I remember seeing a great thread where a chemist talked about the unfeasability, chemically, of extracting the trenbolone in the volumes of solvents used. Anyway, I think I will try laboratory trenbolone one time before I write it off. I just want you to know tren turned on me twice, and in general, was disappointing in the end.

Maybe its damn useful for cutting as low doses to preserve muscle, but I think nothing beats the "tried and true" compounds; Test/EQ/Deca/Dbol for packing on the meat.

 

[CassiusDio]

If you want to get rid of the yellow dye just recrystallize your fina.

I hate extracting AS with methanol .... it just sucks. You get the AS and a fair amount of the binders too.

I use diethyl ether to extract, you get a minimal amount of methylcellulose with it, and most AS's are very soluble in ether.

 

[biogeared]

i don't get any fina sides at less then 100mg ED.

 

[envies]

just a guess, but did you possible bake it at a temp too high and possibly damage the hormone, rendering it useless?

 

[biogeared]

just a guess, but did you possible bake it at a temp too high and possibly damage the hormone, rendering it useless?

you would have to bake quite high for a very long time to do this.

this is why it makes sense to boil your gear. can't destory anything cause itll only go to boiling temp, but it makes it fall into solution.