My F@#KIN prostate ...Help!

[tonesofhome7578]

Hey all. 31 y/o, 6 feet 210 lbs, 10%BF. I started my cycle of 500mg TE/wk and 400mg Deca/wk as well as AIFM and 20mg Tamoxifen. I started 2 weeks ago. Before this i did 1 month of M1T and i think that may have buggered my prostate. I drink around 4-5 liters/day but i am pissing NON STOP!! I have no problem with pain or stopping my urine flow or ejaculation just the fountain. I should have realized it's my prostate before i started the gear but i think i might have been in denial. I have an appt with a urologist next week and i'm getting my PSA done tonight at work. Is there anything gear that can be used with safety if your prostate is enlarged? I'm assuming that the problem is from DHT conversion.....what about EQ? Does AVODART really work well? I'm only 31 years old so i don't want a TURP by the time i'm 40 and have some major limp dick....... BUT i just stocked up on a bunch of gear and i'm good to go........

 

[SwolK]

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bump for ya. just be careful bro

 

[tonesofhome7578]

Thanks Man!! I plan on being very careful. I want to be bigger/stronger but i also want to be HEALTHY. If there's no safe way to continue, i'm done no questions.

 

[SwolK]

once i ran winny at a high dose (DHT derivitive) and i think my prostate swole'd up b/c i had to piss really bad about every 30-40mins, i dropped the dose and was fine

 

[nydj66]

I am 40 and was told by the doctor on Tuesday that my prostate is about 30% larger than it should be for my age. No problems with flow but I haven't slept through the night without getting up to piss since I was 24. Didn't start gear until I was 37. Still awaiting PSA results.

Everything I've read so far indicates that AAS related prostate enlargement is temporary and it returns to previous size several weeks after AAS use is discontinued. Also, researchers have searched but found no link between BPH and increased risk of prostate cancer (whew!).

Avodart and Proscar can prevent testosterone from converting to DHT but both can cause major limp dick as a side effect. Also, several AAS can enlarge the prostate directly so 5HT inhibitors are no help with those compounds.

There's no sure answers in this area but my plan of action is to get the baseline data done now. Then avoid highly androgenic gear and monitor the situation to make sure that gear is not accelerating prostate growth.

 

[tonesofhome7578]

Thanks nydj66. I've been going through all me medical books and the chances of a 31 y/o with BPH is slim to none. From what i gather it probably is prostatitis. Which AAS enlarge the prostate directly and which ones are safe(r)?

 

[heavy_duty]

damn bro, you might have to sell all your gear to a fellow Canadian!

 

[SwolK]

damn bro, you might have to sell all your gear to a fellow Canadian!

or send it to an american for free!

 

[tonesofhome7578]

LOL....thanks for the advice guys . I'm going to wait till i see my urologist but it may have to go depending on what i hear........ but free....C'MON GUY's

 

[SwolK]

LOL....thanks for the advice guys . I'm going to wait till i see my urologist but it may have to go depending on what i hear........ but free....C'MON GUY's

let us know what the doc says. best of luck to ya

 

[tonesofhome7578]

No prob! Which are the AAS that direct convert?

 

[SwolK]

No prob! Which are the AAS that direct convert?

winny, and there are more, but cant remember which

 

[shoestring2]

What makes you think you have a prostate problem? Just cause you have to pee a lot? Aren't you drinking tons of water? I drink around 2 gallons a day & I have to pee all the time. If I drank a half a gallon like most people do I prolly would only go once in a while. Get it checked , but it may be ok. Good luck..

 

[tonesofhome7578]

i'm a little bit of a hypochondriac cause i work as a RN/RT but you do have a good point. I am drinking about 750cc per hour. I don't have any of the other symptoms either. Even if it's not i might take avodart anyways. Anyone have some sources for this stuff?

 

[solidspine]

I piss about 20-30 times a day, it drives me nuts, have had the prostate checked 5 times at least, checked for diabetes, but it just that I go a lot.


Always have, perfectly healthy, like you I drink a lot of water,

On gear pretty much all the time, but have been having to go to the bathroom since high school, did my first cycle at 47 and I am 56 now,

Time to go take leak.

 

[lanky]

i'm a little bit of a hypochondriac cause i work as a RN/RT but you do have a good point. I am drinking about 750cc per hour. I don't have any of the other symptoms either. Even if it's not i might take avodart anyways. Anyone have some sources for this stuff?

you stated you are a RN, although you cannot make a medical diagnosis you should be able understand the mechanism of urinary frequency in BPH because of incomplete emptying of the bladder. YOU stated you are drinking 750 CC per hour(a factor you might consider)..just think what happens when you run D5 1/2 with 20KCl at a high rate in one of your patients and on top of that they have an IVPB @ 200ml/hr ordered q12....on top of that they may have lasix or HCTZ ordered which makes the problem worse.lets pray they are not incontinent or have a foley..you have had to have some previous experience with patients with BPH or post TURP, suprapubic, or on CBI. frequent urination can have other factors as well: DM, polyphagia, polydipsia, polyuria? maybe a visit to the doctors office is needed. tell them to throw in a fasting glucose level..c/mon man think , you are an rn

you are also on multiple androgens and tamoxifen AIFM which can screw with circulating hormone levels even more and may act directly on the prostate but who knows, which have the ability to cause BPH...

you do not have a diagnosis of BPH yet and are asking for sources for dutasteride, chances are someone is going to send you an PM and scam you will get some fake dutasteride.

I understand the whole hypochondriac statment though....lol

 

[heavy_duty]

yah,,, what lanky said

 

[tonesofhome7578]

Dude, i've been there a THOUSAND times before ON OTHER PEOPLE but on myself i'm very paranoid. Believe it or not, i'm not a complete shit head and I had a physical and extensive bloodwork before I started and everything was excellent (although they didn't do a digital prostate exam). I do know that my fasting glucose was normal as was my renal function and lft's. Unfortunately I didn't do a PSA. It very well may just be that i'm drinking a shitload of water but I have worked with men having turp's and there can be major problems post surgery. I doubt it's BPH as the incidence in men less than 30 is very rare but the incidence of prostatitis in men 30 to 40 is very high. As for the avodart I never stated I was going to just recklessly begin taking it without seeing a urologist. If I did need to take it I might consider getting it from a reliable lab instead of a local pharmacy as my plan only covers generic meds and it's only a trade med.

 

[MR. BMJ]

I would be more worried if there was a decrease in urination. I really think the increase in urination is soley correlated to the increase in water consumption.

You are taking both AIFM and Nolvadex so estrous-induced prostate problems should be covered from this angle.

Now, and I know that some of the research is conflicting, but do yourself a favor and get some Saw Palmetto. I've been using it for years and i've never had any problems with my prostate ever. Standard dosing is 320mg per day, I take this dosage twice per day (320 mg/capsule in am when waking up and again before bed). Just make sure that it is statndardized to contain 85-95% fatty acids and sterols. I really could care less on what a lot of the bias studies showing it does not work state, because i've taken it since I was 18 years old off/on and I can tell a HUGE difference when it is not included. Saw Palmetto + an Anti-estrogen or AI has helped me tremendously. I've also had friends who have had prostate problems and once they started taking it along with an anti-estrogen, they stated almost immediate relief.

I mean really, the stuff is really worth a shot to try as it is only like $6-7.00 at your local Wal-Mart store, which is also where I get it from (Rexall brand).

The good sign is that your fasting Glucose and renal function tests were normal so it is likely that Polyuria is not a result of these conditions being out of whack.

There has been just as much research showing that AAS have no negative effect on the prostate than there are have been that it does.

I think you are fine my man. Lucky for you working as an ER RN, you have easy access to have the necessary tests performed. Reallythough, I think the increase in urination is due to an increase in water intake. I'd still get some Saw Palmetto though.

BMJ

 

[MR. BMJ]

For those wanting to know, 750cc's is roughly equivalent to 25 fluid oz.

25 x 10 hours would be 250oz/d....give or take and hour or two i'm sure.

252oz = 2 gallons.

If you were not drinking this amount prior, then all of a sudden bumped it up, this will be common to urinate a lot more frequently.

BMJ

 

[tonesofhome7578]

Thanks BMJ (and everyone else). I value everyones advice and experience. It's very hard to find any unbiased info on AAS and it's effects on the body in any medical journals. All the info out there is via questionable sources so real world experience from peers is all we got. Either way, I never want to take my health for granted so I will still see a urologist just in case. I appreciate any and all the info the forum can give.

 

[lanky]

TURPS can be a pain in the ass, have to keep them from getting bladder spasms, it sucks if they were on plavix and asprin before if INR was slightly high, they will be on CBI forever, then you have to worry about Hgb

 

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Hey all. 31 y/o, 6 feet 210 lbs, 10%BF. I started my cycle of 500mg TE/wk and 400mg Deca/wk as well as AIFM and 20mg Tamoxifen. I started 2 weeks ago. Before this i did 1 month of M1T and i think that may have buggered my prostate. I drink around 4-5 liters/day but i am pissing NON STOP!! I have no problem with pain or stopping my urine flow or ejaculation just the fountain. I should have realized it's my prostate before i started the gear but i think i might have been in denial. I have an appt with a urologist next week and i'm getting my PSA done tonight at work. Is there anything gear that can be used with safety if your prostate is enlarged? I'm assuming that the problem is from DHT conversion.....what about EQ? Does AVODART really work well? I'm only 31 years old so i don't want a TURP by the time i'm 40 and have some major limp dick....... BUT i just stocked up on a bunch of gear and i'm good to go........

Have you been taking any minerals supplements?? That could be your problem! I suggest that you get minerals with gluconate and citrate designations these are the best for you. Get some zinc gluconate now!!! Don't double the dosage! Don't want want to shock that little guy! Reduce your water intake to give the prostate some rest. Also eat easily disgestible foods. This will give more rest to the prostate gland. My prostate gland was so swollen it protrude out the back of my ass! The size of a golfball but only bigger, hurt like hell. To damn shameful to see my doctor because she insisted that I get a PSA test! But change in diet and supplements saved my prostate gland and me! You can continue the steriods as long as you take the mineral supplementation and change your diet. Give your prostate a rest for your own sake!!!

 

[nydj66]

Have you been taking any minerals supplements?? That could be your problem! I suggest that you get minerals with gluconate and citrate designations these are the best for you. Get some zinc gluconate now!!! Don't double the dosage! Don't want want to shock that little guy! Reduce your water intake to give the prostate some rest. Also eat easily disgestible foods. This will give more rest to the prostate gland. My prostate gland was so swollen it protrude out the back of my ass! The size of a golfball but only bigger, hurt like hell. To damn shameful to see my doctor because she insisted that I get a PSA test! But change in diet and supplements saved my prostate gland and me! You can continue the steriods as long as you take the mineral supplementation and change your diet. Give your prostate a rest for your own sake!!!

Jacks,

After my doctor visit I started taking 100mg/day of zinc gluconate along with 2g/day of vitamin C (both split into 2 daily dosages).

Can you give more details on your experience? What did you take in what amounts and how long did it take to see results?

Thanks!

 

[tonesofhome7578]

TURPS can be a pain in the ass, have to keep them from getting bladder spasms, it sucks if they were on plavix and asprin before if INR was slightly high, they will be on CBI forever, then you have to worry about Hgb

Yeah, it can be a nasty procedure. At least there are some other options for men who are on anticoags or have blood dyscrasia's such as laser or even micro-waving the prostate. I actually had a guy die post TURP from hypovolemia not to long ago. I have never really thought too much about my prostate in the past. I've always taken great care to monitor my liver, renal functions and my CV system but i realize that statistically the prostate will eventually cause some grief with 95% of all men. Lanky, being a fellow healthcare worker with no doubt more experience in AAS than myself do you think taking a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor would be beneficial? Again, i am still going to see a urologist but i don't think i'll let him in on my AAS use due to insurance implications.

 

[Huckster]

LYCOPENE

I have suffered on and off with BPH since I was in my late teens. Had an alternative med doc put me on lycopene in the middle of a flare-up a couple of years ago. Within 3-4 weeks it was gone. Used about 50mgs/day to get rid of initial swelling, then about 30-40mgs/day as maintenance from that point on, and have never had a problem since. Stuff is a super potent anti-oxidant, and it binds strongly to prostate tissue. And it's available OTC at most health stores. It's something I recommend to anyone concerned about prostate health.

 

[tonesofhome7578]

LYCOPENE

I have suffered on and off with BPH since I was in my late teens. Had an alternative med doc put me on lycopene in the middle of a flare-up a couple of years ago. Within 3-4 weeks it was gone. Used about 50mgs/day to get rid of initial swelling, then about 30-40mgs/day as maintenance from that point on, and have never had a problem since. Stuff is a super potent anti-oxidant, and it binds strongly to prostate tissue. And it's available OTC at most health stores. It's something I recommend to anyone concerned about prostate health.

Thanks Huckster. if you don't mind me asking:
1) how old are you
2) Have you used any AAS with your prostate? Any ones you found better results with
I actually picked up some Saw Palmetto as well as lycopene. Did you take the lycopene all at once or divided throughout the day?
Thanks again

 

[BigRupe]

If you are waking up and your urine putput is large say 300 to 500ML's then its NOT your prostate.

People who have prostate issues have to go often, but when they do it's only minimal urine output.

If you have a steady flow and large volume chances are it's just your large intake of fluids casuing you frequent urination.

Hey all. 31 y/o, 6 feet 210 lbs, 10%BF. I started my cycle of 500mg TE/wk and 400mg Deca/wk as well as AIFM and 20mg Tamoxifen. I started 2 weeks ago. Before this i did 1 month of M1T and i think that may have buggered my prostate. I drink around 4-5 liters/day but i am pissing NON STOP!! I have no problem with pain or stopping my urine flow or ejaculation just the fountain. I should have realized it's my prostate before i started the gear but i think i might have been in denial. I have an appt with a urologist next week and i'm getting my PSA done tonight at work. Is there anything gear that can be used with safety if your prostate is enlarged? I'm assuming that the problem is from DHT conversion.....what about EQ? Does AVODART really work well? I'm only 31 years old so i don't want a TURP by the time i'm 40 and have some major limp dick....... BUT i just stocked up on a bunch of gear and i'm good to go........

 

[get456]

seriously.... lots of water = lots of pissing

thats just kind of the way it works eh?

 

[tonesofhome7578]

I'm not sure of the volume i'm voiding but it seems that I have to go every half hour or so sometimes not much, sometimes lots

 

[lanky]

Yeah, it can be a nasty procedure. At least there are some other options for men who are on anticoags or have blood dyscrasia's such as laser or even micro-waving the prostate. I actually had a guy die post TURP from hypovolemia not to long ago. I have never really thought too much about my prostate in the past. I've always taken great care to monitor my liver, renal functions and my CV system but i realize that statistically the prostate will eventually cause some grief with 95% of all men. Lanky, being a fellow healthcare worker with no doubt more experience in AAS than myself do you think taking a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor would be beneficial? Again, i am still going to see a urologist but i don't think i'll let him in on my AAS use due to insurance implications.

5AR inhibitor will reduce the size of the prostate,,you stated you are a healthy 31 y/o male..we do not know if your symptoms are from BPH, more likely from high oral intake,AAS induced fluid and electrolyte imbalance, or DM..i dont know if there is evidence of prophylactic use of 5AR inhibitors for BPH, though finasteride is used in 1mg for male pattern baldness. from the patients i have had on finasteride i always question on their sexual functioning and general muscular strength and energy(an area of outside interest for me), most say finasteride 5mg makes them a little tired and they hint at a decreased libido, though it is noted that the patient population i work with is generally not 31 years old and have other medications and problems going on that may come into play. it sucks to hear that your patient passed away. hemorrhage always sucks,sometimes blood loss goes out faster than lactated ringers and blood products can go in . i never want a TURP, suprapubic, or any other prostate surgery for that matter..id rather straight cath myself.

I will need finasteride in the next 10 years, but for my hair..i will hold off as long as possible because by that time there may be better options,,i am not to keen on reducing the most potent androgen in the body by 70% or more, no matter what many people say. just my opinion

there is also evidence on administering a supraphysiological dose of DHT actually reduces the size of the prostate, during this administration of DHT there is a reduction of estrogen levels , therefore possibly estrogen playing a role in BPH,

 

[1968Charger]

this is a complex problem for sure .it could be an "std "or a prostate infection, or it could be your small intestines are inflamed and are pushing against your blader ,or bhp .i should know !they ran every stupid test on me ,even a catscan to see the proublem . and all they found was my small intestines looked larger than normal so now its the ass doctor !!!!!!!!! LOL it can even be caused by straning your self weight lifting!!! go to the doc and he will give you the figure in the ass "LOL" and i used this and it worked after a month http://www.prostate-miracle.com/ good luck

 

[shoestring2]

Is it possible that you may have some latent tendencies driving this compulsion to have a man stick his finger up your ass? . Just kidding man, thought you could use a laugh! Hope the doctor gives you a clean bill of health..

 

[tonesofhome7578]

5AR inhibitor will reduce the size of the prostate,,you stated you are a healthy 31 y/o male..we do not know if your symptoms are from BPH, more likely from high oral intake,AAS induced fluid and electrolyte imbalance, or DM..i dont know if there is evidence of prophylactic use of 5AR inhibitors for BPH, though finasteride is used in 1mg for male pattern baldness. from the patients i have had on finasteride i always question on their sexual functioning and general muscular strength and energy(an area of outside interest for me), most say finasteride 5mg makes them a little tired and they hint at a decreased libido, though it is noted that the patient population i work with is generally not 31 years old and have other medications and problems going on that may come into play. it sucks to hear that your patient passed away. hemorrhage always sucks,sometimes blood loss goes out faster than lactated ringers and blood products can go in . i never want a TURP, suprapubic, or any other prostate surgery for that matter..id rather straight cath myself.

I will need finasteride in the next 10 years, but for my hair..i will hold off as long as possible because by that time there may be better options,,i am not to keen on reducing the most potent androgen in the body by 70% or more, no matter what many people say. just my opinion

there is also evidence on administering a supraphysiological dose of DHT actually reduces the size of the prostate, during this administration of DHT there is a reduction of estrogen levels , therefore possibly estrogen playing a role in BPH,

Well, i do know that it's not DM or electrolyte imbalance as i did labs at work and they were all normal..... not fasting values but my K+ was 4.5, NA 139.6, glucose 88, Creat 1.1, Bun 17 blah blah blah.... I am going to reduce my fluid intake to 2000cc/day and see what happens. Other than this i feel amazing with great muscle and cardio endurance... I asked my wife and we think this has been going on for quite a while as she seems to remember me always being a slave to the lue!!

In regards to 5AR inhibitors, i think i also read that they may decrease DHT PERMANENTLY which is definately not cool. At this point my hair is like a 70's shag carpet with no signs of receeding (thank god!!). As for reducing estrogen levels, the AIFM should be of more benefit than nolvadex then? I really want to finish this cycle as it will be a big waste of $$$ plus i always train hard and make steady gains but in the past when i'm "on" i can't believe the quality muscle i put on. But, i also don't want to ruin my health. Thanks again for your valued input.

 

[tonesofhome7578]

Is it possible that you may have some latent tendencies driving this compulsion to have a man stick his finger up your ass? . Just kidding man, thought you could use a laugh! Hope the doctor gives you a clean bill of health..

AGGGH Gross man!!! (not that there's anything wrong with that)

 

[lanky]

Well, i do know that it's not DM or electrolyte imbalance as i did labs at work and they were all normal..... not fasting values but my K+ was 4.5, NA 139.6, glucose 88, Creat 1.1, Bun 17 blah blah blah.... I am going to reduce my fluid intake to 2000cc/day and see what happens. Other than this i feel amazing with great muscle and cardio endurance... I asked my wife and we think this has been going on for quite a while as she seems to remember me always being a slave to the lue!!

In regards to 5AR inhibitors, i think i also read that they may decrease DHT PERMANENTLY which is definately not cool. At this point my hair is like a 70's shag carpet with no signs of receeding (thank god!!). As for reducing estrogen levels, the AIFM should be of more benefit than nolvadex then? I really want to finish this cycle as it will be a big waste of $$$ plus i always train hard and make steady gains but in the past when i'm "on" i can't believe the quality muscle i put on. But, i also don't want to ruin my health. Thanks again for your valued input.

good to hear labs were OK. 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride do not permanently decrease DHT, after a few weeks of use even missing a dose or two does not have an effect on serum/and local tissue levels of DHT. after discontinuing finasteride serum DHT levels slowly rise over a few weeks up to a month or two to reach pre medication levels. not a permanent thing

 

[tonesofhome7578]

good to hear labs were OK. 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride do not permanently decrease DHT, after a few weeks of use even missing a dose or two does not have an effect on serum/and local tissue levels of DHT. after discontinuing finasteride serum DHT levels slowly rise over a few weeks up to a month or two to reach pre medication levels. not a permanent thing

Good to know..... but still not a drug to be taken lightly!

 

[lanky]

i am no expert on nolvadex and AIFM. i go the natural route for estrogen controll ie..keeping my bodyfat% low, and no ethanol

 

[tonesofhome7578]

I'm thinking i might just go "au naturale". It's only been 2 weeks would i need clomid and HCG if i did?

 

[MR. BMJ]

I'm thinking i might just go "au naturale". It's only been 2 weeks would i need clomid and HCG if i did?

No, don't do it

BMJ

 

[tonesofhome7578]

R U serious BMJ? Think it won't cause any permanent damage to finish? I also have A LOT of test Prop and EQ...... do you think i would be better off switching? I really want to finish but i got 10 weeks to go....... from the limited info i've read, what swelling AAS does to the prostate is only temporary....what do you think?

 

[MR. BMJ]

I really think there is nothing wrong, unless there is soemthing else you are not posting. All your tests came back positive, you feel positive, and you stated that the increase in urination was more than likely due to increased fluid intake...I really think you are being too hard on yourself.

You have to remember as well that with some of the AAS "horror stories" you hear in the media are often exaggerrated, as well as the user(s) participation in other drugs as well which are usually the cause of most of their problems.

I just do not understand why you would actually want to stop. I do not think that you will have any prostate problems at all with this cycle. You stated limited use per year as well, so I really think that limits you even more from having any problems, as say a guy who cycles non-stop. Even then though, you read guys who are on HRT and they almost never have problems, especially the one's who take supplements/drugs for prostate health. Take Ulter for example, he too uses saw palmetto, and he has never had any prostate problems at all, and he is like 85 years old . I think prostate problems may effect some, but before it ever gets to that point, you will find out. Most of these effects are reversible upon stoppage....but again, I just do not see this being a big problem for a lot of people who take care of themselves. Most people get more sides from taking fat burners and the likes, than they ever will with AAS. The sides can be limited with the proper care,

Man, i'm late to work and am probably doing a crappy job typing this...lol. I'll add more later.

Maybe Ulter and some of the guys who have been on for awhile can chime in?....or HRT guys? If anybody was gonna have a problem, it would be them.

BMJ

 

[tonesofhome7578]

I really think there is nothing wrong, unless there is soemthing else you are not posting. All your tests came back positive, you feel positive, and you stated that the increase in urination was more than likely due to increased fluid intake...I really think you are being too hard on yourself.

You have to remember as well that with some of the AAS "horror stories" you hear in the media are often exaggerated, as well as the user(s) participation in other drugs as well which are usually the cause of most of their problems.

I just do not understand why you would actually want to stop. I do not think that you will have any prostate problems at all with this cycle. You stated limited use per year as well, so I really think that limits you even more from having any problems, as say a guy who cycles non-stop. Even then though, you read guys who are on HRT and they almost never have problems, especially the one's who take supplements/drugs for prostate health. Take Ulter for example, he too uses saw palmetto, and he has never had any prostate problems at all, and he is like 85 years old . I think prostate problems may effect some, but before it ever gets to that point, you will find out. Most of these effects are reversible upon stoppage....but again, I just do not see this being a big problem for a lot of people who take care of themselves. Most people get more sides from taking fat burners and the likes, than they ever will with AAS. The sides can be limited with the proper care,

Man, i'm late to work and am probably doing a crappy job typing this...lol. I'll add more later.

Maybe Ulter and some of the guys who have been on for awhile can chime in?....or HRT guys? If anybody was gonna have a problem, it would be them.

BMJ

Thanks BMJ . I realize that i'm probably (very) paranoid. I think it's because all reference to ANY performance enhancing drugs/supplements in my line of work is met with very negative thoughts. Example.... I had a 33 year old guy who was an AAS user who had a large MI (heart attack). Even though he was a frequent cocaine/speed user it was of course due to "the juice"...... i mean cmon!!! So for 10 years all and any info i've read and asked fellow colleagues about AAS (which i have to be very careful about) is always negative. An endocrinologist actually told me that AAS was ineffective in building muscle...again CMON!!! This is why i value the knowledge-base from everyone here......... THANKS ALL!

 

[Huckster]

Thanks Huckster. if you don't mind me asking:
1) how old are you
2) Have you used any AAS with your prostate? Any ones you found better results with
I actually picked up some Saw Palmetto as well as lycopene. Did you take the lycopene all at once or divided throughout the day?
Thanks again

1)Late 30's(so I've been dealing with it for about 2 decades).

2)Experimented with literally every AAS out there at one time or another over the past 20 years. Best one I've used in terms of non-inflammatory response on prostate was anavar. Worst was probably high dosages of testosterone. Mild dosages didn't bother me too much, as long as I wasn't blowing loads 24/7(which can certainly be the case when libido is through the roof,lol).

3)I split my dosages of lycopene up, taking some in the a.m., and a healthy amount before I went to bed at night(which seemed to help me from getting up and pissing 20 times,hehheh).

 

[tonesofhome7578]

1)Late 30's(so I've been dealing with it for about 2 decades).

2)Experimented with literally every AAS out there at one time or another over the past 20 years. Best one I've used in terms of non-inflammatory response on prostate was anavar. Worst was probably high dosages of testosterone. Mild dosages didn't bother me too much, as long as I wasn't blowing loads 24/7(which can certainly be the case when libido is through the roof,lol).

3)I split my dosages of lycopene up, taking some in the a.m., and a healthy amount before I went to bed at night(which seemed to help me from getting up and pissing 20 times,hehheh).

Thanks Bud.... I am waiting for my PSA but i can't get in to a urologist till december!! Anyways, i started a prostate formula and added extra lycopene and saw palmetto just in case. I'm on Teste E at 500mg/wk with deca at 400mg/wk..... Do you think i should drop the TE to 400mg/wk as i've been off for over 2 years? Does increased sex make it worse? I've been averaging 3 times a day for a LONG TIME!! I thought i read that sex helped the prostate? Cheers http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

 

[tonesofhome7578]

1)Late 30's(so I've been dealing with it for about 2 decades).

2)Experimented with literally every AAS out there at one time or another over the past 20 years. Best one I've used in terms of non-inflammatory response on prostate was anavar. Worst was probably high dosages of testosterone. Mild dosages didn't bother me too much, as long as I wasn't blowing loads 24/7(which can certainly be the case when libido is through the roof,lol).

3)I split my dosages of lycopene up, taking some in the a.m., and a healthy amount before I went to bed at night(which seemed to help me from getting up and pissing 20 times,hehheh).

How exactly did they diagnose you...exam, labs, biopsy? All? Thanks again

 

[tonesofhome7578]

Well, got my psa back today.. the result was 0.9 (norm 0.0-4.0)....... whew!! I can't get in to a urologist till December but i may now even go now. My buddy who's an MD at my work wrote me a script for "oral prostate release" to give to my wife lol!!

 

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Jacks,

After my doctor visit I started taking 100mg/day of zinc gluconate along with 2g/day of vitamin C (both split into 2 daily dosages).

Can you give more details on your experience? What did you take in what amounts and how long did it take to see results?

Thanks!

When my prostate was the size of a nice size ripe plum and protruding from my backside, I thought I was going to die! The the swelling occurred over two days, almost unnoticeable until I felt a twitch of pain in the area. Damn!! What the Hell is that??! The pain shot from the gland down to my left foot because of the nerve connection. I had to limp for a month and I couldn't train because of the pain. I had taken Ibuprofen, Feldane, and Neurontin which help me get some rest. I began taking 50mg. of zinc gluconate, 3x a day, 1g. of Vit-C, 1,500mg. calcium, 750mg mag., Vit-D 400mgs, Flaxseed Oil 1g., Vit-E 800mg., Choline and Inositol combo, lecithin, kelp, B-6, and cider vinegar combo. My water intake was 1/2 gallon distilled water with a raw fruit juice. My prostate gland went back to normal in just over a month. I'm back in the gym now. Missed those deadlifts and squats!!!

 

[thelion2005]

Hey all. 31 y/o, 6 feet 210 lbs, 10%BF. I started my cycle of 500mg TE/wk and 400mg Deca/wk as well as AIFM and 20mg Tamoxifen. I started 2 weeks ago. Before this i did 1 month of M1T and i think that may have buggered my prostate. I drink around 4-5 liters/day but i am pissing NON STOP!! I have no problem with pain or stopping my urine flow or ejaculation just the fountain. I should have realized it's my prostate before i started the gear but i think i might have been in denial. I have an appt with a urologist next week and i'm getting my PSA done tonight at work. Is there anything gear that can be used with safety if your prostate is enlarged? I'm assuming that the problem is from DHT conversion.....what about EQ? Does AVODART really work well? I'm only 31 years old so i don't want a TURP by the time i'm 40 and have some major limp dick....... BUT i just stocked up on a bunch of gear and i'm good to go........

A swollen prostate would stop urination. Seems like you are dumping water as a side of the aas and the heavy consumption of water.

Don't be surprised if your PSA is above 8. Mine went from less than 1 to over 8 while I was on a cycle that was really working. I was also peeing a lot and having sexual relations better than ever.

4 weeks off the aas and I was back to normal.

 

[tonesofhome7578]

A swollen prostate would stop urination. Seems like you are dumping water as a side of the aas and the heavy consumption of water.

Don't be surprised if your PSA is above 8. Mine went from less than 1 to over 8 while I was on a cycle that was really working. I was also peeing a lot and having sexual relations better than ever.

4 weeks off the aas and I was back to normal.

Thanks Man....I got my PSA results today and they were 0.9 so i guess i'm all good!!

 

[lanky]

Well, got my psa back today.. the result was 0.9 (norm 0.0-4.0)....... whew!! I can't get in to a urologist till December but i may now even go now. My buddy who's an MD at my work wrote me a script for "oral prostate release" to give to my wife lol!!

"oral prostate release' lol , what was the frequency of "administration" , TID or greater i hope, lol ..good to hear about the PSA, i saw a PSA a few months ago that was 560 , poor guy is no longer alive

 

[tonesofhome7578]

"oral prostate release' lol , what was the frequency of "administration" , TID or greater i hope, lol ..good to hear about the PSA, i saw a PSA a few months ago that was 560 , poor guy is no longer alive

PRN at my discretion!!! Thanks for all your advice man!!