My Dermacrine experience

[needtogetaas]

good thread bro.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Got a question for Pp: I'll be switching over to Sustain (from original formula) in a few days. I've been applying the original formula on the vascular parts of my legs (inside of thighs, etc). Where should I apply Sustain? Keep in mind that is is for PCT purposes, that is, to recover my body's natural test levels, not merely to boost them.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Got a question for Pp: I'll be switching over to Sustain (from original formula) in a few days. I've been applying the original formula on the vascular parts of my legs (inside of thighs, etc). Where should I apply Sustain? Keep in mind that is is for PCT purposes, that is, to recover my body's natural test levels, not merely to boost them.

The application site does matter with Sustain. Just rotate your application sites from upper to lower body.

-Pp

 

[njmuscleguy]

Ok, I'll give another update either tomorrow or Thursday (that will be 2 full weeks of original formula Derma). I read this post from Dmac in another derma thread:
________
Depends on who you talk to, some guys have had such an increase in test from applying dermacrine to the shoulders (where the DHEA gets converted to test by enzymes as it passes through the skin) that its like taking low dose test during PCT. The idea was that you put it on your stomach and legs for PCT where it doesn't convert to test while passing the skin.
________

Here are my questions: if you're applying it to the shoulders, thereby boosting test levels by dhea conversion, will the body still attempt to recover its natural test levels?
This test "boost", when not used for PCT purposes... it's not permanent, right?

So by applying to the stomach and legs, you are largely bypassing this dhea conversion? When used for PCT purposes, its effects *are* more permanent?

I'm applying it on the insides / vascular pars of my upper legs and lower abs... SOMETHING is going with my hormone levels because my back and shoulders (only) are breaking out fiercely. The only time this ever happens to me is when taking HCG, and I've been done with that for some time now.

 

[gjohnson5]

I will have to check

Are your test levels lower than normal for your age range? For several years now, my levels have vascillated between just above normal to waaaay below normal... and I haven't been able to determine if it's because of continued AAS use along with botched-up PCT's, or if my natty levels are just declining. If Derma doesn't work (for longer than just a quick-fix), then I will have to look into HRT.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Ok, I'll give another update either tomorrow or Thursday (that will be 2 full weeks of original formula Derma). I read this post from Dmac in another derma thread:
________
Depends on who you talk to, some guys have had such an increase in test from applying dermacrine to the shoulders (where the DHEA gets converted to test by enzymes as it passes through the skin) that its like taking low dose test during PCT. The idea was that you put it on your stomach and legs for PCT where it doesn't convert to test while passing the skin.
________

Here are my questions: if you're applying it to the shoulders, thereby boosting test levels by dhea conversion, will the body still attempt to recover its natural test levels?
This test "boost", when not used for PCT purposes... it's not permanent, right?

So by applying to the stomach and legs, you are largely bypassing this dhea conversion? When used for PCT purposes, its effects *are* more permanent?

I'm applying it on the insides / vascular pars of my upper legs and lower abs... SOMETHING is going with my hormone levels because my back and shoulders (only) are breaking out fiercely. The only time this ever happens to me is when taking HCG, and I've been done with that for some time now.

Yes, if you apply it to the shoulders it would convert more DHEA to test, so that would temporarily lower your LH and FSH because of they hypothalamus sensing the higher test levels….

The idea is that you limit the conversion of DHEA to test, and allow the DHEA and preg to exert their positive effects on sTAR, GH, IGF-1, ect… all of which indirectly can help regain hormonal function.

The new Derma Sustain does not have any of the pro-hormones and potential suppressive effects on the hypothalamus, and it has a higher concentration of Phyto-AI complex… so it will cause a stronger release of LH an FSH which will increase the size and function of your testes… getting you back inline.

-Pp

 

[Knights2]

so the derma sustain will actually helps the tesites grow back after a test cycle?

 

[Primordial Performance]

so the derma sustain will actually helps the tesites grow back after a test cycle?

Yes.

IMO, Derma Sustain will work better than either nolvadex or clomid for restoring testicular size and virility.

However it cannot serve a substitute for HCG/HMG if the testis have been left to turn to raisins. – this sort of condition would require treatment from multiple angels.

-Pp

 

[njmuscleguy]

Thanks Pp - just making sure I understand the whole picture. I will post complete update tomorrow or Thursday.

 

[Knights2]

good shit i might have to actually give this a try