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Just the one experiment. I'm pretty much where I want to be for now. I may try again this summer for cutting but I really have no desire to get any bigger.
 
JavaGuru said:
Just the one experiment. I'm pretty much where I want to be for now. I may try again this summer for cutting but I really have no desire to get any bigger.

i think its more like he knows his placebo wont work a second time.
 
Being about twenty pounds past my natural genetic potential how does placebo effect give six pounds of LBM in two weeks? I can see psychological effects being placebo as well as strength gains but certainly not six pounds of LBM in two weeks. Let me clarify, I take inert compound X which I believe to be the most anabolic compound known to man, that it will pack on muscle and strength while making me feel like superman. It's still not gonna grow an ounce of muscle if my body is physiologically incapable of growing any more muscle without the use of real anabolics placebo effect or not.
 
JavaGuru said:
Being about twenty pounds past my natural genetic potential how does placebo effect give six pounds of LBM in two weeks? I can see psychological effects being placebo as well as strength gains but certainly not six pounds of LBM in two weeks. Let me clarify, I take inert compound X which I believe to be the most anabolic compound known to man, that it will pack on muscle and strength while making me feel like superman. It's still not gonna grow an ounce of muscle if my body is physiologically incapable of growing any more muscle without the use of real anabolics placebo effect or not.

Don't bother arguing with that guy. He is very stupid. He's been banned from Animal's board three times and is obsessed with 4ad and "mass gains". He's too scared t try it himself and anytime someone gives him results he dismisses it as "placebo" or "water" gains.

Also, just so you know what kind of person you're dealing with...over on Animal's board he called someone's 90lb gain (over a number of years) "newbie gains" :D
 
EngiCream said:


Don't bother arguing with that guy. He is very stupid. He's been banned from Animal's board three times and is obsessed with 4ad and "mass gains". He's too scared t try it himself and anytime someone gives him results he dismisses it as "placebo" or "water" gains.

Also, just so you know what kind of person you're dealing with...over on Animal's board he called someone's 90lb gain (over a number of years) "newbie gains" :D

Well excuse me for trying to see results .i dismiss people over at animals results because people at animals board either dont know how to post results all i hear is "feels like a real roid or something dumb like that" i want numbers or its simply put that no bone is gaining any mass on it.i wish some one could actually post results over there but doesnt matter that board is wacked anyway.
Now java did post results the way results should be posted ( take notes to bring over there)HoWEver its strange that he didnt gain the second week when while on test he gained allot the second week .

O and Engi even instynct agree's that there really is no solid proof on 4ad and gains as no one is gaining any real anabolic effect from it , read the magoo post and you will see.
 
MIKERAZ said:


Well excuse me for trying to see results .i dismiss people over at animals results because people at animals board either dont know how to post results all i hear is "feels like a real roid or something dumb like that" i want numbers or its simply put that no bone is gaining any mass on it.i wish some one could actually post results over there but doesnt matter that board is wacked anyway.
Now java did post results the way results should be posted ( take notes to bring over there)HoWEver its strange that he didnt gain the second week when while on test he gained allot the second week .

O and Engi even instynct agree's that there really is no solid proof on 4ad and gains as no one is gaining any real anabolic effect from it , read the magoo post and you will see.

Well ill tell you why java isnt placebo because he went in thinkign it wouldnt really work so he went in biased
 
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