My 4ad injectable log

[Enock]

Ok my 4ad game from BAC which as I understand is a crappy impure place to get it..

One thing I didn't take into account is how much 20grams of 4ad actually IS!.. I just dumped the bottle in then realized that if I'm going to get maybe a 50mg per cc suspension then I'm going to have a helluva lot of oil on my hands.. In the future I won't dump it all in good thing its cheap.

Ended up having to use 20cc BA w/ the oil and powder adding in to top off at 400ml.

I'm not sure how much is actually being suspended. So really the dose could be anywhere from 1mg per cc to 40mgcc or so.

There is alot of residue at the bottom, I shake before I draw I'm not sure how much or what is filler and what is the 4ad.

Did my fist injection of 2cc.. Going to use 2cc a day till I either feel it working and adjust from there down or up.. or if I get nothing I'll just throw the crap out. Basically I'm just going to judge its effect based on my sexdrive if that kicks in I'm happy with it.

The shot didn't hurt not yet at least I'lll prolly wake up with a bitch of an infection with my luck.. I'm thinking if it doesn't hurt I'll add more BA see if I can get it to suspend better plus it doesn't hurt to have more BA too keep things bacteria wise safer.

I'll keep you posted.

Anyone have anyidea when I should increase the sex drive pick up if infact I didn't produce my own bunk gear.

 

[Enock]

Holyfuck ow ow ow!

I guess BA pain takes a while to manifest itself i can barely move my leg this morning.. Its soo fucking sore and its causing my knee to ache like crazy on top of that.

The stuff sure works fast and I guess enough is in the solution being injected because. I was getting hardons for no reason lastnight. This morning it doesn't seem to be the case?? clears that damn fast? maybe its just the pain stopping me.

Well I sure as hell can't bear another injection. So unless I find away to lessen the BA pain this is the last post.

 

[javaguru]

The pain is most likely caused by crystallization out of the depot because one can get painless injection at a little under 10% BA content. Welcome to the world of suspensions, painful daily injections.

 

[MIKERAZ]

so is it workign yet? any muscle? i still have my doubts

 

[Enock]

The pain is most likely caused by crystallization out of the depot because one can get painless injection at a little under 10% BA content. Welcome to the world of suspensions, painful daily injections.

SOB, How the fuck do you deal? I can't even put weight on my leg unless I want to fall down.




QUOTE]Originally posted by MIKERAZ
so is it workign yet? any muscle? i still have my doubts [/QUOTE]

One day in umm NO not likely lol. Sex drive is up already.. But If its true its from the crystalization and not the BA that means I can't make the shots hurt anyless. With this pain I can't train so I won't be using it to find out. So sorry can't give you any more feedback.

Unless....

How little can I get away w/ injecting? Would 1cc be a fuck lot less painfull that 2cc java?


How long till this pain goes away? Will I be cool for friday or did I just blow my weekend? (I can't really even walk right now but theres no swelling)

 

[cockdezl]

Imagine rubbing tiny shards of glass on your skin. Now take those shards and inject them into a muscle.

This is what you have done.

 

[javaguru]

I've never used a 4-ad suspension. I experimented with a solution of 4-ad-ec, 50g for less than $100.00 at Kilosports. Relatively painless at 10% BA and 50mg/ml.

 

[Sigmund Roid]

What happens is that after the injection the BA, which is soluble to some extent in water, will be sucked out of your depot, which causes further crystallisation (i.e. needles) in your butt. You should have added benzyl benzoate to the mix.

And why don't you use 1-test for injection.

 

[javaguru]

I imagine 1-test would be just as painful to inject. I don't know of anyone that can tolerate the pain.

 

[jesus 2]

I imagine 1-test would be just as painful to inject. I don't know of anyone that can tolerate the pain.

have you tried injectable 4-ad-ec more than once?

 

[javaguru]

Just the one experiment. I'm pretty much where I want to be for now. I may try again this summer for cutting but I really have no desire to get any bigger.

 

[MIKERAZ]

Just the one experiment. I'm pretty much where I want to be for now. I may try again this summer for cutting but I really have no desire to get any bigger.

i think its more like he knows his placebo wont work a second time.

 

[javaguru]

Being about twenty pounds past my natural genetic potential how does placebo effect give six pounds of LBM in two weeks? I can see psychological effects being placebo as well as strength gains but certainly not six pounds of LBM in two weeks. Let me clarify, I take inert compound X which I believe to be the most anabolic compound known to man, that it will pack on muscle and strength while making me feel like superman. It's still not gonna grow an ounce of muscle if my body is physiologically incapable of growing any more muscle without the use of real anabolics placebo effect or not.

 

[EngiCream]

Being about twenty pounds past my natural genetic potential how does placebo effect give six pounds of LBM in two weeks? I can see psychological effects being placebo as well as strength gains but certainly not six pounds of LBM in two weeks. Let me clarify, I take inert compound X which I believe to be the most anabolic compound known to man, that it will pack on muscle and strength while making me feel like superman. It's still not gonna grow an ounce of muscle if my body is physiologically incapable of growing any more muscle without the use of real anabolics placebo effect or not.

Don't bother arguing with that guy. He is very stupid. He's been banned from Animal's board three times and is obsessed with 4ad and "mass gains". He's too scared t try it himself and anytime someone gives him results he dismisses it as "placebo" or "water" gains.

Also, just so you know what kind of person you're dealing with...over on Animal's board he called someone's 90lb gain (over a number of years) "newbie gains"

 

[javaguru]

I guess that I'm being overly idealistic by believing logic and reason should triumph over ignorance.

 

[MIKERAZ]

Don't bother arguing with that guy. He is very stupid. He's been banned from Animal's board three times and is obsessed with 4ad and "mass gains". He's too scared t try it himself and anytime someone gives him results he dismisses it as "placebo" or "water" gains.

Also, just so you know what kind of person you're dealing with...over on Animal's board he called someone's 90lb gain (over a number of years) "newbie gains"

Well excuse me for trying to see results .i dismiss people over at animals results because people at animals board either dont know how to post results all i hear is "feels like a real roid or something dumb like that" i want numbers or its simply put that no bone is gaining any mass on it.i wish some one could actually post results over there but doesnt matter that board is wacked anyway.
Now java did post results the way results should be posted ( take notes to bring over there)HoWEver its strange that he didnt gain the second week when while on test he gained allot the second week .

O and Engi even instynct agree's that there really is no solid proof on 4ad and gains as no one is gaining any real anabolic effect from it , read the magoo post and you will see.

 

[notpuff]

Well excuse me for trying to see results .i dismiss people over at animals results because people at animals board either dont know how to post results all i hear is "feels like a real roid or something dumb like that" i want numbers or its simply put that no bone is gaining any mass on it.i wish some one could actually post results over there but doesnt matter that board is wacked anyway.
Now java did post results the way results should be posted ( take notes to bring over there)HoWEver its strange that he didnt gain the second week when while on test he gained allot the second week .

O and Engi even instynct agree's that there really is no solid proof on 4ad and gains as no one is gaining any real anabolic effect from it , read the magoo post and you will see.

Well ill tell you why java isnt placebo because he went in thinkign it wouldnt really work so he went in biased