muscle fatigue on high rep routine...

[kiosk]

After a few months on the SF 5x5 I decided to switch to a 3x10 routine since the 5x5 seems to be making me stronger but not bigger, plus I wanted to change the training a bit.
When doing upper body I can never finish the last 2-3 reps of the last 2 sets, fatigue sets in real quick, this doesnt happen when doing lower body (squats or DL) or when I was on the 5x5.
Now I have always had very wimpy shoulders, much smaller than my arms and chest/back relatively speaking, so I am wondering wether the higher rep routine is bringing up my shoulder weakness, since they are involved in all upper body movements. So should I focus on the 3x10 routine or go back to 5x5?
I dont do any isolated stuff, just compound movements (bench press, rows, etc)

 

[silver_shadow]

i'm sorry, i really don't get this whole notion that strength & hypertrophy are not at all related. so you made SOME strength gain with 5x5 but didn't gain appreciable mass. how about you eat some more on 5x5 and become bigger and then you will surely lift bigger too... no 2 ways about that.

 

[carlsuen]

eat big + lift big = getting big..

 

[kiosk]

sorry guys I forgot to mention am trying to shed some fat, I am not necesarily trying to add muscle but keep whay I have while losing fat...but none of this really explains why my upper body is showing increase fatigue with higher reps...

 

[silver_shadow]

what does your diet look like?

 

[eat big]

eat big + lift big = getting big..

What's my name.



This happens to me for no more than a few weeks. Once I make the transition, (make sure to do lower weight than what I think because I always overshoot it on high reps), it usually improves in a few weeks.

 

[Xet]

there was a post about if ur unable to finish ur last few, before becoming totally fatigued, stop and rest half the time u do for a full set and finish off that set

 

[elitft_bouncer]

i'm sorry, i really don't get this whole notion that strength & hypertrophy are not at all related. so you made SOME strength gain with 5x5 but didn't gain appreciable mass. how about you eat some more on 5x5 and become bigger and then you will surely lift bigger too... no 2 ways about that.

Wierd though. Westside does a conjugate of strength=1rm, speed=60%explosive, size=higher reps. Traditional periodisation also does the same breaking its training into phases of hypertrohpy, speed, strength, power.

I guess speed/power and strength would need to be trained accordingly but why have a hypertrohpy phase at all if u can grow with just strength or lower rep training.

p.s i just call my high rep training 'condition training' to condition your tendons and muscles. yet they call it hypertrophy phase which is weird

 

[silver_shadow]

Wierd though. Westside does a conjugate of strength=1rm, speed=60%explosive, size=higher reps. Traditional periodisation also does the same breaking its training into phases of hypertrohpy, speed, strength, power.

I guess speed/power and strength would need to be trained accordingly but why have a hypertrohpy phase at all if u can grow with just strength or lower rep training.

p.s i just call my high rep training 'condition training' to condition your tendons and muscles. yet they call it hypertrophy phase which is weird

i hear ya bro