Mumbo Jumbo

[PittBull666]

I read so many posts that are nothing but technical mumbo jumbo. The focus has shifted from good old hard training and diet, with moderate gear usage, to exotic drugs, super stacks and supplements that affect one specific hormone level or another. The craziest part is that there are so many differing opinions that it's impossible to figure it all out. I don't think Arnold worried about SHBG levels or took R-ALA with every meal or even took exotic mega stacks of gear to attain his physique. I think that the gear is just an extension of hard work and not the other way around. Unless you want to be a bloated pin cusion like alot of the new pros. My .02 Let's hear yours.


Later
666

 

[GodOfThunder]

I agree todays pro's look like shit...not near as good as the classics like Arnold, Lou, and Serge. I'm not again't exotic drugs though, as you call them. I think body building is being exacted as a science and thats how people are getting so freakishly big these days. Now to decide if thats really the look i would want- NO.

 

[Skullfucked]

I read so many posts that are nothing but technical mumbo jumbo. The focus has shifted from good old hard training and diet, with moderate gear usage, to exotic drugs, super stacks and supplements that affect one specific hormone level or another. The craziest part is that there are so many differing opinions that it's impossible to figure it all out. I don't think Arnold worried about SHBG levels or took R-ALA with every meal or even took exotic mega stacks of gear to attain his physique. I think that the gear is just an extension of hard work and not the other way around. Unless you want to be a bloated pin cusion like alot of the new pros. My .02 Let's hear yours.


Later
666

Maybe you dont like using your brain or understand it's called PROGRESS. Learning about how shit works and using state of the art supps (especially for those who are natural or clean) is ESSENTIAL. Fact is most people training like Arnold did (overtraining) will never come remotely close to achieving what he did.
I know a guy who's achieved a hell of alot more than me in bodybuilding and he still thinks Nolvadex will help provent Anadrol induced gyno, has no idea what Arimadex is, and doesnt use clomid, hcg,ect. and uses a pyramid cycle pattern.
Fuck the 'old days'. Except for dirt cheap US juice that could be easily scooted out the back door of the local Walgreen's!

 

[Enock]

Re: Re: Mumbo Jumbo

Maybe you dont like using your brain or understand it's called PROGRESS. Learning about how shit works and using state of the art supps (especially for those who are natural or clean) is ESSENTIAL. Fact is most people training like Arnold did (overtraining) will never come remotely close to achieving what he did.
I know a guy who's achieved a hell of alot more than me in bodybuilding and he still thinks Nolvadex will help provent Anadrol induced gyno, has no idea what Arimadex is, and doesnt use clomid, hcg,ect. and uses a pyramid cycle pattern.
Fuck the 'old days'. Except for dirt cheap US juice that could be easily scooted out the back door of the local Walgreen's!

Plus alot of us are bored.. and when we can't be in the gym we like to keep our head there.

Since training and diet really can't have much new or thearative info added all thats left thats left to really explore is drugs

 

[PittBull666]

Wow! You have a bad day SkullFucked? Strong language and you don't even know me. Should I shove my dick in your eye socket or your mouth?

666

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

Arnold probably didn't have to bother with any of that...but he has awesome genetics probably.

For those of use with less than great genetics, you have to do whatever you can...hard training AND all the extras.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You have a point. At the same time, this is a place to discuss and debate theories. If we all sat around talking about concentration curls things would get pretty boring -- fast!

Drugs are an area that is most open to conjecture and unlimited possibilities , therefore it's going to dominate the conversation.

I've been criticized on both sides of the issue. To some newbies, I'm a little too presumptuous in my use of technical terms. To the "research heads" I'm too much into imperical evidence and not scientific enough (I hardly state studies and references). I guess what I've tried to do is present advanced information in a reader friendly, easily assimable style. Maybe out of curtosy to fellow members, we should all be a little more aware of keeping things simple and not living and dying by the arcane medical reports and the convoluted chemistry calculations which more often than not, have nothing to do with the real world world and is just an opportunity for a handful of geeks to discuss minutea. If that's what you want, go to MFW.

 

[T2O]

LOL Pitbull666 I have to agree with you to a certain extent. I do like to know what I am shooting into my bod though. If I just wanted a good bod it would be ok but I want health or as good of health as I can get. The part that sucks for me is I have to get out my little book that translates greek into english. A lot of tech shit on here which is good, but I like to spend more time in the gym than in the books. For the pros it goes with out saying they need to be focused 24-7. I think these days it is more about how much, what kind, when, and how. The pros these days are hideous imo. I think sometimes the winner is the one whom takes the biggest risk of what his bod will allow him to shoot in. I think Priest is amazing but damn lets see if he is still here at the age of 45-50. MO