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MRI on shoulder results
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just my .02 but,i think you gotta look at your condition & whats in the big picture.for example i had a severe laberal(laberum)tear.doc said would not get worse & would not get any better.i was no longer able to benefit from weight training b/c my shoulder would only allow so much abuse.i opted for the surgery & the recovery was hell but, i was in a no win situation.if i were not in physical fitness i would not have done it.i had the option for cort. shot but denied b/c it just prolongs the inevitable.as for docs go, i trusted mine & had good therapist. i know people who have & have-not had the surgery & both still complain about pains.good luck in your decision.
The tunrover rate for tendons/ligaments is 300-500 days under normal circumstances. That can be greatly reduced if inflamation is allowed to happen and even speed up further if inflamation is forced. The only tendon/ligament damage that wont heal on its own is if it is totally cut through the whole thing. Doesnt sound like yours was totally seperated and if thats the case your doc telling you it wont heal was an incorrect at best. Actually though, under his normal treatment of ice and anti0inflamatories the injury likely would never heal. He is a surgeon though so he cuts, thats what he does and thats what he knows so of course that is going to be his recommended approach. Had you undergone prolo you would not have had the expense of surgery OR the hellish recovery, the injury would have improved over time and as time passed you would gain more and more use of your shoulder. As you mentioned you know people who have had the surgery and they still complain, that because surgery can not fix the underlying problem of a lose joint, it can reattache tendons/ligaments but it can not force them to heal, tighten up and make a joint function properly. As I mentioned above many prolo docs started out like the average doc and after realizing scoping, cutting and cortisone did not work they sought a better treatment and are now trating injuries with prolo. Often times post surgery patients also seek prolo once they realize that the time, money, energy on rehabilitation did not fix the problem.dootyd3 said:
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I had it done because I also had a tear & some arthritic bone removed as well. After you deal with the pain for a certain amount of time you just want to have the thing fixed & be done with it. That's where I was at. Zyg, I'm not saying the alternative methods (Prolo/ART, etc) won't work, I'm just giving DG another option, especially if there aren't any practicing docs in his area, that's all.
Zyglamail said:
I had it done because I also had a tear & some arthritic bone removed as well. After you deal with the pain for a certain amount of time you just want to have the thing fixed & be done with it. That's where I was at. Zyg, I'm not saying the alternative methods (Prolo/ART, etc) won't work, I'm just giving DG another option, especially if there aren't any practicing docs in his area, that's all.
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Having said that, you had your shoulder scoped and bone removed, guess what, your shoulder is now sloppy again and I can bet over the years to come you will likely run into the same problem because the real problem was never addressed. Once again the medical community is so used to treating symptoms (ie pain, and bone removal) that they dont even know how to fix the actual problem any more.
As for being fixed and done with it if you address the issue and inflamation at the initial time of injury you would likely never be in a position to have to have bone removed in the first place. Hopefully DG will not keep masking the problem and prolonging healing so that arthritis occurs for him.
Ok, lets back up a step here. Do you know why arthritic bone is created by the body? Its created to take up the slack in a joint. That slack in the joint comes from stretched tendons/ligaments. When they gets stretched they no longer hold the joint in place and it wears away the joint. In the bodies effort to make things right the tendons get inflamed and the healing process begins. Then you see a doc, use ice and jump on anti0inflamatorieshalting the healing process so the sloppy joint cant get repaired and then the bodies resorts to a last ditch effort and builds up arthritic bone.daveyboy said:
Having said that, you had your shoulder scoped and bone removed, guess what, your shoulder is now sloppy again and I can bet over the years to come you will likely run into the same problem because the real problem was never addressed. Once again the medical community is so used to treating symptoms (ie pain, and bone removal) that they dont even know how to fix the actual problem any more.
As for being fixed and done with it if you address the issue and inflamation at the initial time of injury you would likely never be in a position to have to have bone removed in the first place. Hopefully DG will not keep masking the problem and prolonging healing so that arthritis occurs for him.
Obviously with a complete tear you have no option but to go under the knif to have it reattached, but in your case, especially since you had bone removed you could greatly benefit from prolo in strengthening and restabalizing the joint after the sugery.dootyd3 said:
Hey, I would have loved to have given something like Prolo therapy a try but when there's only 1 listed doc in the whole state who's licensed to practice it (at least in mine) you accept it & move on to plan B (surgery). Believe me, I did look into it. According to the Prolo website, if you don't live in Cali, Florida or Texas, you're shit outta luck. Most states have either only one physican listed or none at all. That's been my point all along.
There are instances when inflamation can have a negative impact such as respitory infections or allergic reactions however in the case of tendon/ligament injury inflamation is the key to recovery. The location of the tendon/ligament has no bearing at all(Prolo, as an example) is used from head to toe. Im currently getting my foot treated but its also used for toes, fingers and even TMJ (ie in the jaw). Cart injuries are generally the result of slopy joints and often times will heal themselves once the joint is brought back into proper alignment. Many docs in the past and present will tell you cart cant be regenerated but I dont believe it. The reason being is that often times when scoped the tissue gets sent to the lab and is found to be in a proliferative state. What this means is that its in a state of healing. Why doesnt it get better if its in a state of healing? Thats because, as mentioned, if the tendons/ligaments supporting the joint are sloppy there is continuous were and tear on the cart preventing it from healing. Hopefully with what you have gone through you can start to see what I have said actually may have some validity.dootyd3 said:
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