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I'm glad Jay won, I am glad I did not have to pick.
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You know, I guess I have to restart this old flame war for the people that still have this on their minds.... I don't really get all the posts all over the net where I've seen people stating how clearly Ronnie beat Jay. I could possibly live with the "You got to KNOCKOUT the Champ!" argument, but all things being equal...
I've looked at tons of pics and I think Ron's fans are closing their eyes to some obvious things. I mean, Ronnie has developed a bad symetry problem with his triceps in the front double bi. His calves look like they came from two different people. I mean, just horrid, and that's something a judge and many impartial spectators will see, but few Ronnie fans glancing at pics, often not even showing the full lower legs will notice. His calves were never great, and now whatever the hell he did to make them large enough to compete on the bigstage (and win the title vacated by a man with possibly the greatest calves of any Mr. O ever) is starting to come back to haunt him IMO.
The knock on Jay was always his blockiness. Well, Jay is so friggin wide at this point- I mean LOOK at the side by sides- he has got to be literally 5 inches wider than Ronnie at the shoulders. When you throw in a little blurriness in Coleman's midsection and that unbelievable X-frame of Jay's, I mean the blockiness just is no issue at this point. If his midsection is blocky, well there's no better way to get past that than supernaturally wide shoulders.
I've looked at tons of pics and I think Ron's fans are closing their eyes to some obvious things. I mean, Ronnie has developed a bad symetry problem with his triceps in the front double bi. His calves look like they came from two different people. I mean, just horrid, and that's something a judge and many impartial spectators will see, but few Ronnie fans glancing at pics, often not even showing the full lower legs will notice. His calves were never great, and now whatever the hell he did to make them large enough to compete on the bigstage (and win the title vacated by a man with possibly the greatest calves of any Mr. O ever) is starting to come back to haunt him IMO.
The knock on Jay was always his blockiness. Well, Jay is so friggin wide at this point- I mean LOOK at the side by sides- he has got to be literally 5 inches wider than Ronnie at the shoulders. When you throw in a little blurriness in Coleman's midsection and that unbelievable X-frame of Jay's, I mean the blockiness just is no issue at this point. If his midsection is blocky, well there's no better way to get past that than supernaturally wide shoulders.
No way Jay was bigger OR wider than Ronnie for that matter...BUT, Jay looked better...I will probably get flamed, but I didn't think it was a fair call back in 1995...Jay should've won then too...
Ronnie was bigger, vascular...hardly....Jay looked better...
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norsemuscle said:
Are you saying Jay was dry as fuck this year?? He was holding more water than the Hoover Dam.
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Oh oops, I just noticed that was an old post.
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