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And as for the Ghandi clip - his highly reprehensible racist propoganda was clearly documented by his own hand.

As I said, "Let the one without sin be the first to cast a stone."

I think that people with a certain level of intelligence should be able to realize that focusing on the negative is not helping anyone. Do I immediately discredit any of Ghandi's good because he did many things that I would question? NO... and further I stated, I think it REMARKABLE that a black man was able to discard Ghandi's hatred of ALL BLACK PEOPLE and actually use his ideals to HELP HIS PEOPLE... thus helpin us all.

As for the catholic church's need to proliferate all this "saint nonsense"... that is on them.

Hell, Istvan Kiraly (the first king of Magyar Orszag) was sainted by the catholic church. He was well noted as one of the Magyar people's MOST RUTHLESS BARBARIANS. But hey, he murdered in the name of the church so I guess that made it ok.
 
Gambino said:
you didn't watch the clip obivously

Learn to spell Captain Dipshit. :) .... I've got my high heels on for ya baby!
 
BIKINIMOM said:
And as for the Ghandi clip - his highly reprehensible racist propoganda was clearly documented in his own hand.

As I said, "Let the one without sin be the first to cast a stone."

I think that people with a certain level of intelligence should be able to realize that focusing on the negative is not helping anyone. Do I immediately discredit any of Ghandi's good because he did many things that I would question? NO... and further I stated, I think it REMARKABLE that a black man was able to discard Ghandi's hatred of ALL BLACK PEOPLE and actually use his ideals to HELP HIS PEOPLE... thus helpin us all.

As for the catholic church's need to proliferate all this "saint nonsense"... that is on them.

Hell, Istvan Kiraly (the first king of Magyar Orszag) was sainted by the catholic church. He was well noted as one of the Magyar people's MOST RUTHLESS BARBARIANS. But hey, he murdered in the name of the church so I guess that made it ok.


EXACTLY. I dont understand the whole saint thing; but I dont really believe in miracles so I dont think any of them are saints.
 
cindylou said:
EXACTLY. I dont understand the whole saint thing; but I dont really believe in miracles so I dont think any of them are saints.

See now this was one of the problems the peeps that started the reformation had, why no protestants believe in saints.

It isn't that we don't necessarily believe in miracles. I, for one, do believe in them wholeheartedly. I just question bestowing some sort of *magical power* on someone because they will be able to *talk to God on my behalf*. God is everywhere that I am and he hears me always. He just doesn't necessarily respond in the way that I would like it at the time, the way any good parent does when a child asks for that parent's help and/or guidance.

Just my humble .02
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I will be honest - all I know about this topic is what I have heard (in the past - went to Catholic high school) and what I saw in the Penn & Teller clip. Here is what I found questionable:

1. That the catholic church *magically* did away with TWO of the conditions necessary for someone to become a saint. And ONE of those two (the requirment that TWO miracles be attributed to her after her death) the husband of the wife admitted THAT THE ONE MIRACLE WAS A HOAX.

2. That though Mother Teresa may not have acquired any *expensive stuff* (It's not like we are talking Imelda with her shoes) she did continue to build lots and lots of buildings THAT BORE HER NAME. So now, don't you think that this is a bit suspect?

Just because the woman never gained any *stuff* that does not automatically absolve her of wrong-doing. Even her supporter said that SHE WANTED TO KEEP THE POOR LIVING IN POVERTY? What was that about?... so the poor would remain in not-so-nice conditions while more and more buildings were built that bore her name?

Just being honest about my opinion.
The person who spoke on her behalf was just a terrible spokesperson. If she really is so mean and nasty and doing these nefarious deeds, what was it all for? Buildings in her name? What enjoyment did she get from them?

some people just want to be salacious about everyone. Slinging mud at Mother Theresa is a new low, though.

She did NOTHING besides being a nun. She had NOTHING. She gave all her time to charity and the church.

Is she perfect? I doubt it. Did she have a thing about suffering? Hell if I know. If she did, at least she truly went out there and did what she thought was bringing people to God, etc. That is far more than 99.999999% of people ever do.

Seriously, if you guys want to bash people in the church, stick with the ones who deserve it -- some of the televangelists and child molesters. Leave Mother Theresa out of it.

I'm not Catholic. I don't get the whole saint thing, anyway. If they want to honor her by calling her a saint, I don't care. lol. None of my business. However, I don't like to see a very good person trashed for shits and giggles.
 
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