Mother T....

[biteme]

All anyone has to do is start a rumor and many people automatically believe it. It's happened here many times.

Jack Schitt is such a moron bombing me every other day just because I called him a pencil necked geek.

 

[puddlemonkey]

I think its against the law to quote yourself bro.

 

[Stefka]

I think its against the law to quote yourself bro.

Is that a deadly sin?

 

[javaguru]

The Mother's own words.....
"I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

 

[Bikini Mod]

The Mother's own words.....
"I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

I gotta say this quote is fairly damning. What would have possessed her to say something like that?

I've been poor and homeless but nothing like the lot of these people. Hell, I had it easy. And I can tell you there is NOTHING christly, holy or wonderful about being poor or suffering. Anyone who thinks that is mentally ill.

 

[heatherrae]

The Mother's own words.....
"I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

I don't find that quote damning at all. I have been both very rich in my life and very poor. I've been so poor that hunger was an issue and we had to stay up in shifts at night to watch for rats. Mother Theresa can't cure all of world hunger and all the suffering in the world. She does what she can. Then she has FAITH. That is something that you aren't grasping, JG. She has faith in god that the suffering will be short lived compared to eternal life and that it will bring them closer to god. Is she correct? I'm not arrogant enough to think that I know all the answers to the mysteries of the universe. However, it doesn't matter if she is right or not. She did the most she could to assuage the suffering of those who she could help.

I guess because she didn't cure all of world hunger, she is a crook now?



Seriously, give up the tirade on Mother Theresa. You look like one of the crazy fanatics that you so desperately dislike, only on the other side of the fence.

 

[javaguru]

I don't find that quote damning at all. I have been both very rich in my life and very poor. I've been so poor that hunger was an issue and we had to stay up in shifts at night to watch for rats. Mother Theresa can't cure all of world hunger and all the suffering in the world. She does what she can. Then she has FAITH. That is something that you aren't grasping, JG. She has faith in god that the suffering will be short lived compared to eternal life and that it will bring them closer to god. Is she correct? I'm not arrogant enough to think that I know all the answers to the mysteries of the universe. However, it doesn't matter if she is right or not. She did the most she could to assuage the suffering of those who she could help.

I guess because she didn't cure all of world hunger, she is a crook now?



Seriously, give up the tirade on Mother Theresa. You look like one of the crazy fanatics that you so desperately dislike, only on the other side of the fence.

HR, her missionaries didn't use pain killers and she disagreed with birth control, because of her faith.She had a suffering kink that she felt everyone else she "helped" should feel. I can have an objective opinion about how you should treat dying people...pain killers are one of the things I agree with....

 

[redsamurai]

I think she could have fed some people with 50 million......no? Ah well.........I'm willing to admit that hitchens and P&T may not have the full story either........she could have been a vatican puppet...........but what does appear to me to be obvious now, is that she was a very simple minded person who probably really beleived that what she was doing was somehow spiritually beneficial to these people. My father had lived in calcutta for a short period of time and he did describe to me what that place was like..........at about 6am people would walk through the streets and jostle all the bodies with a stick to see who was really dead and who wasn't, then they would pack up all the dead in wagons. So yes, things weren't any better outside of mother theresa's hospices...........and the woman would personally wash and bathe these people with her bare hands.....and these people according to my father were just living in their own exrement. So I do respect her work.......but I can't wrap my head around the matter of all the money she raised. Heather, in a prior post you stated that people who gave her money knew that they were giving to the catholic church and all it's works around the globe.........I'm not so sure. I'm sure we all remember the late night infomercials that show starving Indian children and imploring us to give money to help MT and her ministry...............and I'm sure that people who then wrote a check pretty much had the notion that their money would predominantly go to what they were seeing on their television screens. I'm sure that if you broke them down a pie chart showing what percentage of their dollar actually went to Indian people and their respective hunger........they might not have given, cause it seems like the majority of each dollar went to ministries around the globe that yes, ministered to poor, but were mostly recruiting outposts. I mean look at the one in new york........not that there's not poor in new york............but c'mon, that was a recruiting job. If I give money to a charity, I expect at least half of every one of my dollars to actually go to charitable work. I understand that people have to get payed, that's why I'm flexible..........but if you knew the facts about 501c3's.........and that with most non profits it comes down to a couple pennies that are actually going to the poor..........you might not be apt to give money. I've been exposed to some obscene 501's here in america...........you wouldnt' beleive how much money those people took for themselves.........it's government sponsored theft!! So if you told me that 2-3 cents out of my dollars were going to the poor and the rest to vatican coffers..........I'd say fuck no eh? It really seems like that woman could have had a budget of a couple million a year............you can't imagine what that would have done for the poor of calcutta................but politics are politics, even in religion.

 

[heatherrae]

HR, her missionaries didn't use pain killers and she disagreed with birth control, because of her faith.She had a suffering kink that she felt everyone else she "helped" should feel. I can have an objective opinion about how you should treat dying people...pain killers are one of the things I agree with....

Really are you getting all your information from that crackpot journalist? You really don't know fuckall about her life. A suffering "kink." Yeah, okay. According to a crackpot journalist and an ex-nun who was so obviously gay. I don't have anything against gay people, but my guess is our little disgruntled nun finally came out and quit the nunnery and has a chip on her shoulder now.

Of course she didn't hand out birth control. She was a nun! Pain killers? I'm not sure nuns are qualified to administer narcotics.

I know you are so far morally superior to her and know exactly how everyone should be helped when they are suffering and dying. So, why aren't you in India picking those people up off the streets and doing anything with them? Oh, but you are so quick to cast dispersions.


When it comes right down to it, she spent her entire life trying to help people. You seem to be spending yours trying to tear others down.

Mother Theresa always said "if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem."

JG, you are part of the problem.

 

[heatherrae]

I think she could have fed some people with 50 million......no? Ah well.........I'm willing to admit that hitchens and P&T may not have the full story either........she could have been a vatican puppet...........but what does appear to me to be obvious now, is that she was a very simple minded person who probably really beleived that what she was doing was somehow spiritually beneficial to these people. My father had lived in calcutta for a short period of time and he did describe to me what that place was like..........at about 6am people would walk through the streets and jostle all the bodies with a stick to see who was really dead and who wasn't, then they would pack up all the dead in wagons. So yes, things weren't any better outside of mother theresa's hospices...........and the woman would personally wash and bathe these people with her bare hands.....and these people according to my father were just living in their own exrement. So I do respect her work.......but I can't wrap my head around the matter of all the money she raised. Heather, in a prior post you stated that people who gave her money knew that they were giving to the catholic church and all it's works around the globe.........I'm not so sure. I'm sure we all remember the late night infomercials that show starving Indian children and imploring us to give money to help MT and her ministry...............and I'm sure that people who then wrote a check pretty much had the notion that their money would predominantly go to what they were seeing on their television screens. I'm sure that if you broke them down a pie chart showing what percentage of their dollar actually went to Indian people and their respective hunger........they might not have given, cause it seems like the majority of each dollar went to ministries around the globe that yes, ministered to poor, but were mostly recruiting outposts. I mean look at the one in new york........not that there's not poor in new york............but c'mon, that was a recruiting job. If I give money to a charity, I expect at least half of every one of my dollars to actually go to charitable work. I understand that people have to get payed, that's why I'm flexible..........but if you knew the facts about 501c3's.........and that with most non profits it comes down to a couple pennies that are actually going to the poor..........you might not be apt to give money. I've been exposed to some obscene 501's here in america...........you wouldnt' beleive how much money those people took for themselves.........it's government sponsored theft!! So if you told me that 2-3 cents out of my dollars were going to the poor and the rest to vatican coffers..........I'd say fuck no eh? It really seems like that woman could have had a budget of a couple million a year............you can't imagine what that would have done for the poor of calcutta................but politics are politics, even in religion.

I never saw an infomercial with Mother Theresa in it. If you did, we must not be watching the same programs. For God's sake, her very name is "MOTHER THERESA" DUH!!!! CATHOLIC OBVIOUSLY!

And, all this speculation about money being spent on this and that is merely speculation and nasty rumor based on some loser journalist trying to make a name for himself by saying things so completely sensational and outrageous. He makes me sick.

When my mother was dying of cancer. I had her in a hospital bed in my living room. She went from a beautiful woman to a skeleton in a matter of weeks. I could not feed her or give her water for a week before she died. When you are dying, the ability to eat and drink shuts down. She had bedsores b/c we couldn't move her without her screaming in agonizing pain. The guilt was overwhelming. DEATH ISN'T PRETTY! I'm sure her friends criticized me plenty that I could have done more or done things differently. Truth is, at least I fucking did SOMETHING all the time. I did what I thought she wanted and what was best. In the end, I probably killed her with all the morphine I gave her for the pain. So, I'm more monstrous than Mother Theresa. I'm a murderer.