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Mindwraith
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Yeah good question, I've been told it just helps to tone the muscle and works endurance fibers?
FunkieMonkeyMan
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I think the whole idea of "toning" a muscle is misunderstood in the same way that people think that doing abs might reduce the Fat on their stomachs.
Now, maybe i dont know what Tone means, but when i think of it, i think of refining the shape of the muscle, and bringing out definition. Now, definition, i believe has very little to do with the muscle and a lOT more to do with the fat covering it. I would say that weight lifting in general does not have anything to do with fat burning since it is an anerobic workout which can't burn fat [at the time of the exercise]. However, if you do rather light weight and you never raise your oxygen intake above its threshold, then you will be doing more of an aerobic workout, which will indeed reduce fat and bring out muscle definition and sepperation.
As far as shape go, i think this is largely genetic, but perhaps can be somewhat modifies by using various angles and range of motion in the exercise.
So personally, when someone says they do high reps for muscle toning, i think its a load of crap. I would say, Lift to get big, and then eat clean to get lean.
-Fatty
Now, maybe i dont know what Tone means, but when i think of it, i think of refining the shape of the muscle, and bringing out definition. Now, definition, i believe has very little to do with the muscle and a lOT more to do with the fat covering it. I would say that weight lifting in general does not have anything to do with fat burning since it is an anerobic workout which can't burn fat [at the time of the exercise]. However, if you do rather light weight and you never raise your oxygen intake above its threshold, then you will be doing more of an aerobic workout, which will indeed reduce fat and bring out muscle definition and sepperation.
As far as shape go, i think this is largely genetic, but perhaps can be somewhat modifies by using various angles and range of motion in the exercise.
So personally, when someone says they do high reps for muscle toning, i think its a load of crap. I would say, Lift to get big, and then eat clean to get lean.
-Fatty
Fatty4You
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Yeah, doing abs just makes your abs bigger. If you want to have more definition, that is ONLY to do with fat. I mean, sure, the bigger the muscle, the more chance it has of been seen under fat, but as far as real definition goes, its all about fat.
And you can't lose fat in specific areas either. Your body has genetic predispositions to put fat in certain places. So, when you burn energy to try and lose fat, your body controls where that happens and at what rate in which areas.
Basically, if you want definition in some place, you have to have an overall body reduction in fat.
-Fatty
And you can't lose fat in specific areas either. Your body has genetic predispositions to put fat in certain places. So, when you burn energy to try and lose fat, your body controls where that happens and at what rate in which areas.
Basically, if you want definition in some place, you have to have an overall body reduction in fat.
-Fatty
collegiateLifter
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i laugh when people describe someone whos pretty skinny, often chicks, who has lots of "lean muscle." i then tell then well what else is she gonna have the fatty kind of muscle? as for harder muscles, all else being equal, lower reps are better than higher reps.
Mindwraith
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Ok, if you're an overweight female, and you want to lose weight and get some muscle "tone", what would the best route be? Would she lift weights and diet? What about cardio?
Fatty4You
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Mindwraith said:
I would lift weights and do cardio, BUT from what i know about overweight people [and there are several in my family] the main problem is with diet! My dad used to do a lot of treadmill work, but the problem was that he ate a ton of crap every day so he ended up obese! Same with my mom. She used to play a lot of tennis, and treadmill, and walking outdoors, but she pretty much lived in the kitchen and ate junk all day long! And she kept packing it on!
-Fatty
Fatty4You
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There are three energy systems in the body that are Always running to suppy energy: THe Phosphagen, glycotic, and oxydative systems all run with vary degrees of productivity depending on the exercise.
The ONLY one of the systems that can produce energy from buring fat is the Oxydative system. This can only use fat when there is enough oxygen in the body - hence you are doing aerobic exercise. But even if you train in an aerobic style, but you do not have enough oxygen, your body will not be able to burn fat for energy.
I am not sure how accurate this is, but i read in a book somewhere that said if you can carry on a SMALL conversation while doing something aerobic, then you have enough oxygen and WILL burn fat. However if you are out of breath, then you probably passed your anerobic threshold and are no longer using fat for energy due to lack of oxygen.
-Fatty
The ONLY one of the systems that can produce energy from buring fat is the Oxydative system. This can only use fat when there is enough oxygen in the body - hence you are doing aerobic exercise. But even if you train in an aerobic style, but you do not have enough oxygen, your body will not be able to burn fat for energy.
I am not sure how accurate this is, but i read in a book somewhere that said if you can carry on a SMALL conversation while doing something aerobic, then you have enough oxygen and WILL burn fat. However if you are out of breath, then you probably passed your anerobic threshold and are no longer using fat for energy due to lack of oxygen.
-Fatty
Mindwraith
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Fatty4You said:
Would a tank of oxygen help? heh
