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8:00 - 4 eggs, 2 Apples, cup oatmeal, Banana

10:00 - oatmeal, whey w/ milk, 2 banana's

12:00 - chicken breast, cup rice, brocolli

3:00 - 1/2 cup sunflower seeds

6:30 - chicken breast, cup rice, brocolli

7:45 - Workout
8:45 - Whey w/ 20 oz's grape juice

9:45 - Cup cottage cheese

That's around 3500 calories, I think.....

I'm 165, and my goal weight is 185 so shouldnt i be eating more around 4500? What things could I add?

What should I change when I cut?
 
In my opinion, since u are only 165 pound, 2500-2800 cal daily intake should be enuf. U are gonna get fat doing 3500 and let alont 4K+ cal.

That's just my humble opinion.
 
you don't take enough good fats (EFAs like fish or flax seed oils)
 
Hmm, where else could I get those 'good fats'?

TheBigDog, so is this diet fine or should I cut some food out?

Thanks
 
You can get your good fats from a variety of sources. Try nuts, nut butters, mackeral, salmon, halibut, snapper, tuna. Try canola oil and olive oil on salads and veggies. Flax oil and flax seeds in protein shakes and yogurt. Things like that should help. Good luck

Ryan
 
your complex carb intakes is also way to low. your body can not be in a constant anabolic state with out sufficient energy. with each meal you should be eating some low GI complex carbs such as whole oats, chickpeas, lentils, kidney beans etc.

you only need to go 300-500 cals over maintenance to gain weight...
 
So what foods would you specifically add, take out, or change around? Complex and low GI carbs are all the same to me... lol

Thanks guys
 
Just try increasing the carb components (rice, etc) you already have planned. Maybe as much as double. As for calories for gaining good mass, I think for a 165#'er, 165x20=3300 Calories is good.
 
Okay, I think my last post was kind of self-contradicting...

I think 3300 Calories would be good. 3500-4000 is stretching it a bit. More than that and you might gain a lot of fat unless you're also doing a lot of cardio.

I would eat just one piece of fruit each at 8 and 10am rather than the 3 and 2 you have. Add some flax oil at breakfast and in your last meal. Add more protein and some more oatmeal for breakfast. And if you really want to increase Calories, increase your portion of oatmeal and rice at other meals.
 
I'm alredy eating oatmeal for breakfast so just cut back ont he fruit basically? I dont have flax, anything else i could eat instead?
 
Looks good, but try to eat more complex carbs; pasta, wheat bread, potatoe, lay offf the banana's a little, there high in sugar, but throw one in your post workout shake. Eat a high protien meal about 1 or so after you train; fish, chicken, meat. eat bigger meals, instead of sunflower seeds, a big ass fuckin bowl of pasta and chicken. flax oil with your shakes will help too. Good luck
 
8:00 - 4 eggs, 1 Apple, cup oatmeal, Banana

10:00 - oatmeal, whey w/ milk, 1 banana

12:00 - chicken breast, cup rice, brocolli

3:00 - 1/2 cup sunflower seeds

6:30 - chicken breast, cup rice, brocolli

7:45 - Workout
8:45 - Whey w/ 20 oz's grape juice

9:45 - Chicken Breast, Rice (Eating 3 chicken breats/day might be expensive... so something cheaper Ic ould eat?)

How's that.....
 
To save on money, try replacing one of the Chicken breast with a can of tuna. Also, begals are a good source of carbs so for one meal you could have a whole wheat begal instead of oatmeal.
 
you'd better take nuts/almonds instead of sunflower seeds
 
Aight.. sO if I eat nuts instead of sunflower seeds is that good?

OR should I not eat rice that late? Isn't it bad to eat carbs that late?
 
Eat more protein...that is what's considered the legal anabolic.

So far I figure in what you've posted your getting around 185g of Protein. You way 165 so you need to eat 330g of protein. Base your meals around protein not carbs! Sure have some carbs but make protein the priority.

Breakfast
4 eggs, 1/2 cup oatmeal, scoop of Protein Powder
2. same or ditch eggs and have a 50g Protein drink w/ some oatmeal
3. Chicken breast( large 6-7oz) 1/2 cup rice, 1/2 cup brocoli
4. Tuna and 2 hardboiled eggs mix together like you would tuna but now you just increased the protein by 12g. make a sandwhich on wheat bread.
Fuck sunflower seeds!!! If you want to eat them then eat them in between meals.
5. 1/2 tub cottage cheese, scoop of protein powder, 1/2 cup fiber one cereal, 1 Tbsp of Udo's oil blend or Flax oil. * this is one of my favorite meals btw.
6. Postworkout shake 100-132g Dextrose/Maltodextrin 50g Whey
7. Sweet potatoe, chicken breast, brocoli.
8. before bed drink a protein shake add 1 tbsp of Flax

learn to eat calorie dense clean foods. Stuff that has alot of calories but is not mounds of food so you can eat again in 2.5 hrs. This is where flax comes into play. It adds alot of cals- fats that you need. so you can eat a smaller meal. That is the trick eating smaller meals so you feel like eating again in 2-3 hrs. Buy some Muscle Milk and drink the shit outta of it. I think that shit would be perfect for someone trying to put on weight and easy too cause it taste so damn good. Try diferent foods, find out what you like then you can figure out a daily meal plan- I eat the same shit day after day- and I look forward to eating what I eat. You will learn - you want to grow...do as I say bitch...J/K:D

SOLID
 
Isnt 300+ g's of protein a little much? I've always heard if you don't need it, it just turns to fat anyway.....

I work from 1-6, so I need something i can get fast--that's why i was eating sunflower seeds---i can't take tuna and eggs to work..

Where's a cheap place to get flax oil?
 
If he's 165 and he wants to weigh 185 he needs to eat like a 185lber - 1.5-2g of protein p/lb of bodyweight.

nuff said.

SOLID
 
Kid Dynamite said:
Solid-
I agree on eating big, but most people can't use all that protein, especially if natural.

WRONG!! Weight trained athletes need 1.5g-2g's of protein per lb. of bodyweight PER DAY! This silly 1g per thing is rediculous. Eat about 40-60 grams 9 times a day an watch what happens.
 
Primal X said:


WRONG!! Weight trained athletes need 1.5g-2g's of protein per lb. of bodyweight PER DAY! This silly 1g per thing is rediculous. Eat about 40-60 grams 9 times a day an watch what happens.

I'm watching it right now my brutha :p :beer:

I weigh 196-
*Calories Eaten Today
source grams cals %total
Total: 3885
Fat: 108 969 25%
Sat: 21 193 5%
Poly: 41 366 10%
Mono: 24 213 6%
Carbs: 221 779 20%
Fiber: 27 0 0%
Protein: 514 2057 54%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

a little excessive but, protein is the legal anabolic, I wont trade it for anything. I just started eating this much 450-500g a day awile ago. Cutting out a lot of carbs- only postworkout- my body compostion has changed dramatically. Abs are starting to shine again. I was only eating around 300g of protein ED.
 
So when should I eat carbs? And what kinds?

I like fast cheap carbs like oatmeal.... grape juice... wheat bread..... Rice...

When should i eat those?
 
Primal X said:


WRONG!! Weight trained athletes need 1.5g-2g's of protein per lb. of bodyweight PER DAY! This silly 1g per thing is rediculous. Eat about 40-60 grams 9 times a day an watch what happens.

I didn't say anything about 1g/lb. a day.
 
Needhelp said:
So when should I eat carbs? And what kinds?

I like fast cheap carbs like oatmeal.... grape juice... wheat bread..... Rice...

When should i eat those?

Or was how i had it good?
 
Bro you may want to eat some red meat also everyday cause it has a lot more of the fats and cals that you need to bulk. Also I agree that some fish everyday would be good.

8 eggwhites cup of oatmeal tbsp. flax
5 oz. red meat 2cups brown rice
protein drink /w banana
2 cans tuna mayo 2cups of pasta
protein drink
1 cup cottage cheese 2cups rice
chicken breast 1cup of pasta and tbsp. flax

This is basically what I aim for when bulking and it seems to work for me bro. Good luck.
 
What should I do when school starts? We can't eat at school, they wont even let us take water bottles or anything (SO couldnt take whey even) and we can't take bags so i cant sneak anything..

I'll only be eating lunch, which is shitty school food. It looks like i'm fucked thanks to a gay school.....
 
Eat more when you're away from school and take nuts and/or protein bars in your pockets. If you have to you can eat em in the bathroom. Don't freak out if you can only eat once at school. It won't make a big difference.
 
So would this be good?

7:00 - 5 eggs, cup oatmeal, banana

9:30 - some nuts (Maybe)

12:00 - Chicken nuggets (School food)

2:00 - nuts (maybe)

3:45 - Chicken breast, rice, brocolli
4:45 - WO
5:45 - Whey w/ grape juice
6-10 @ work - maybe some more nuts, lol

11:00 - whey w/ milk

I think i need more food..... there arent many times when i'm not @ school or work though.
 
Look at the meal plans oneandthesame and iwan2bsolid posted.....those are very good. The one you just posted is lame....follow the ones that they posted. I hope this helps....

Ryan
 
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