Mogwai/Slint/Tortoise et al...

[Red Bull]

Just curious if anyone ellse listens to the Chicago/Scottish 'scene'...saw these guys live lots of times in Camden, London.

 

[Flah]

You're lucky. I wanted to catch Slint on their reunion run but I don't think it'd be the same.

What else are you into when it comes to instrumental math rock/post rock?

 

[Red Bull]

You're lucky. I wanted to catch Slint on their reunion run but I don't think it'd be the same.

What else are you into when it comes to instrumental math rock/post rock?

heh, 'math rock', good man...

im really out of touch with anything new - can't hear new sounds where i am - but suffice to say, saw tortoise's first ever gig in the UK. I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT AS LONG AS I LIVE. I think Ganger were supporting them - like them too. Also saw Ariel M - Dave Paho's spin-off. Amazing...

Erm, Don Caballero, all Steve Albini stuff, Trans AM (when they supported Tortoise another time). Oh Arab Strap too...

My mate saw the SLINT reunion...he said it was something ellse...

Hey bro, any recommendations, updates would be appreciated...

Cheers!

 

[Flah]

*crack knuckles*

Let's do this!

...Of Sinking Ships - ex. Hopesfall. Hard to find but some pretty and spacey moments.
1 Mile North - Near ambient guitar sections. Some of it's drone but worth looking into for the soundscapes they can create.
35007 - Known in the stoner circles and not really anywhere else. Shame, great jammy prog feel to them.
65 Days Of Static - Quality instrumental rock. Can get to be quite anthemic.
The Album Leaf - I know a lot of people that love these guys. Nice electronic influence.
The Advantage - Member of Hella is in this. If you're the age where 8-bit Nintendo played a significant role in your life, you need this.
Ativin - They have those movements that you can only find in math rock. You know what I'm talking about.
Battles - Quirky mathy stuff. Think Don Cab with electronics.
The Cancer Conspiracy - Really good spaced out instrumental rock with the focus being on the rock.
The Dead Texan - A little more involved than 1 Mile North but another soundscape band. Great mood pieces.
Do Make Say Think - Comparable to The Mercury Program, etc.
Explosions in the Sky - The "it" band in the genre right now. Beautiful delayed guitar lead to Slint like loudness.
Fly Pan Am - Don't call me on it but I'm pretty sure this is another GSYBE offshoot with shorter more focused songs.
Foxhole - Solid post rock with horns.
Ghosts And Vodka - Instrumental rock that's more straightfoward.
Grails - They can get a bit on the experimental side, but some of the best stuff out there right now. Can be both beautiful and painful.
Gregor Samsa - Some light vocal touches accent fantastic scapes.
Hella - The other "it" band. Off the wall stuff. One of the best drummers in music right now. Takes a few listens for it all to sink in.
Kayo Dot - Okay, so I cheated. They have vocals but you're in for a wild ride through some truly amazing music. Ex Mauldin of the Well.
Lightning Bolt - Loud and obnoxious with more than a handful of catchy riffs. They're just fun.
Maserati - Did a split with Mercury Program, don't know what happened after that. Wish I could find more.
The Mercury Program - If you remember stuff like Inlantic, this is where that sound went. My favorite active band right now in the genre. Just gorgeous arrangements.
Mono - Amazing post rock from Japan. The loudest and quietest band you'll ever hear.
Oxes - Math rock with an emphasis on rock.
Pelican - More on the metal side of things. They write some killer riffs though. Same kind of deal as 5ive, etc but less drone and more melody.
Red Sparowes - At one time featured members of Isis and Neurosis. Interesting use of slide guitar and their best work has a sort of shimmering beauty to it.
Rumah Sakit - Math rock without the flourishes. Great basslines.
Russian Circles - Gravitates more towards the traditional screamo look at loud/soft structures. Really good stuff.
Sequencepulse - Reminds me a bit of early Mogwai. They did a split with Gauge Means Nothing. No idea after that.
The Six Parts Seven - Kind of like The Mercury Program with a great focus on the guitars.
SubArachnoid Space - Stoner/psychedelic stuff. Has a good jam quality to it. Just like the name, it's spacey.
Supermachiner - Converge side project. All over the place musically but has some top notch moments.
Tides - Similar to Pelican with a greater focus on low end riffing.
Tristeza - Guitar rock with a real spaced out vibe to it.
Una Corda - More on the metal side of things but they have some great moments. Young band. I expect them to be huge.
Unwed Sailor - Reminds me of the jazzy attitude of old math rock stuff with a focus on melody.

Tell me how some of that stuff hits you and I can do recommendations from there.

 

[Red Bull]

*crack knuckles*

Let's do this!

...Of Sinking Ships - ex. Hopesfall. Hard to find but some pretty and spacey moments.
1 Mile North - Near ambient guitar sections. Some of it's drone but worth looking into for the soundscapes they can create.
35007 - Known in the stoner circles and not really anywhere else. Shame, great jammy prog feel to them.
65 Days Of Static - Quality instrumental rock. Can get to be quite anthemic.
The Album Leaf - I know a lot of people that love these guys. Nice electronic influence.
The Advantage - Member of Hella is in this. If you're the age where 8-bit Nintendo played a significant role in your life, you need this.
Ativin - They have those movements that you can only find in math rock. You know what I'm talking about.
Battles - Quirky mathy stuff. Think Don Cab with electronics.
The Cancer Conspiracy - Really good spaced out instrumental rock with the focus being on the rock.
The Dead Texan - A little more involved than 1 Mile North but another soundscape band. Great mood pieces.
Do Make Say Think - Comparable to The Mercury Program, etc.
Explosions in the Sky - The "it" band in the genre right now. Beautiful delayed guitar lead to Slint like loudness.
Fly Pan Am - Don't call me on it but I'm pretty sure this is another GSYBE offshoot with shorter more focused songs.
Foxhole - Solid post rock with horns.
Ghosts And Vodka - Instrumental rock that's more straightfoward.
Grails - They can get a bit on the experimental side, but some of the best stuff out there right now. Can be both beautiful and painful.
Gregor Samsa - Some light vocal touches accent fantastic scapes.
Hella - The other "it" band. Off the wall stuff. One of the best drummers in music right now. Takes a few listens for it all to sink in.
Kayo Dot - Okay, so I cheated. They have vocals but you're in for a wild ride through some truly amazing music. Ex Mauldin of the Well.
Lightning Bolt - Loud and obnoxious with more than a handful of catchy riffs. They're just fun.
Maserati - Did a split with Mercury Program, don't know what happened after that. Wish I could find more.
The Mercury Program - If you remember stuff like Inlantic, this is where that sound went. My favorite active band right now in the genre. Just gorgeous arrangements.
Mono - Amazing post rock from Japan. The loudest and quietest band you'll ever hear.
Oxes - Math rock with an emphasis on rock.
Pelican - More on the metal side of things. They write some killer riffs though. Same kind of deal as 5ive, etc but less drone and more melody.
Red Sparowes - At one time featured members of Isis and Neurosis. Interesting use of slide guitar and their best work has a sort of shimmering beauty to it.
Rumah Sakit - Math rock without the flourishes. Great basslines.
Russian Circles - Gravitates more towards the traditional screamo look at loud/soft structures. Really good stuff.
Sequencepulse - Reminds me a bit of early Mogwai. They did a split with Gauge Means Nothing. No idea after that.
The Six Parts Seven - Kind of like The Mercury Program with a great focus on the guitars.
SubArachnoid Space - Stoner/psychedelic stuff. Has a good jam quality to it. Just like the name, it's spacey.
Supermachiner - Converge side project. All over the place musically but has some top notch moments.
Tides - Similar to Pelican with a greater focus on low end riffing.
Tristeza - Guitar rock with a real spaced out vibe to it.
Una Corda - More on the metal side of things but they have some great moments. Young band. I expect them to be huge.
Unwed Sailor - Reminds me of the jazzy attitude of old math rock stuff with a focus on melody.

Tell me how some of that stuff hits you and I can do recommendations from there.

Heh, thanks a lot mate. Some of the names are familiar, many are not.

I should really re-state that i have literally been out of the loop for 8 years. The last band of this genre (kind of) which i listened to - when it came out - was The Beta Band.

I have no idea how im gonna get to listen to this stuff. I'm in the middle east, this stuff just does not exist. But I'll see, I just don't really want to download kazaa/limewire again...

Thanks mate.

P.s. you seen any of these guys live?

 

[Flah]

I don't really go to shows anymore and none of this stuff comes within driving distance. Sigh. Sucks.

How about I do a giant YSI of a song from each of these bands?

I was going to hunt down MP3s but this makes more sense.

 

[Red Bull]

I don't really go to shows anymore and none of this stuff comes within driving distance. Sigh. Sucks.

How about I do a giant YSI of a song from each of these bands?

I was going to hunt down MP3s but this makes more sense.

Bro

If you got the time, that would be great - but don't sweat it otherwise. Not sure what I can offer you in return...

Gotta go to bed, 2:00 am here.

Laters, mate

 

[Flah]

YSI #1 - # - C

http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1OYB6EMO2DFLS2DL6LA1JXNNLL

The rest when I can get to it.

 

[Red Bull]

YSI #1 - # - C

http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1OYB6EMO2DFLS2DL6LA1JXNNLL

The rest when I can get to it.

Mate.

I don't know what to say. You have no idea what you've just done to a bloke in the middle of the desert...

It was all brilliant, all of it. But there will always be the ones which instantly seize you and don't let go. They are Battles and Ativin (both right on the spot), and of course, Of Sinking Ships...

On that last note, I am playing The Last Signal over and over again, my heart feels like it's going to explode, like when I saw Aerial M. My gf thinks I have gone mad. She has NEVER seen me like this. I think she's right.

Someone reading this might think you've hooked me up with a cache of class A drugs or a woman of wicked sins. Fuck them. If you can't feel this passionate about music, what ellse is there?

I have PMed you.

Cheers.

 

[Flah]

Awesome! I'm glad you dig some of this stuff!

YSI #2: D - G

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=03FIG5H05AR0030FCHY5NSGYF7

 

[majutsu]

dude -- this guy's cool

such a love of music

flah, real nice to hook a brother up

 

[from zero]

Yeah really. I like this red bull dude. Bout time we got another music lover in here.

 

[from zero]

flah, remember Ellen? Throw "in the Spring" or "movinginmysteriousways" in there. I bet red bull would dig them.

 

[Flah]

You know, I totally forgot about Ellen and a few other things. That'll be in the next round of stuff.

http://www.myspace.com/ellen

Ellen has a new song up.

 

[Red Bull]

Hey guys.

Flah, what's up mate? Majutsu, Zero - thanks for the warm welcome and the additional input. It is indeed good to be hooked up with this stuff. Actually good is an understatement as I shall explain.

Got your second drop Flah and I got a lot to say - not because I like the sound of my own words but because in all honestly, I need you guys to know what is doing it for me, where I am at so you can drop some more stuff!

Before I go on, can I just ask is this stuff - instrumental/post rock/chicago scene/loud-quiet call it whatever you want - but is this stuff 'primarily' what you guys are into. You know what I mean...

 

[from zero]

red bull, I'm mainly into metal. I also can appreciate a lot of other things though. Progressive rock, classic rock, various sub-genres of metal, etc ...

If it rocks, I'll give it a listen.

 

[majutsu]

Before I go on, can I just ask is this stuff - instrumental/post rock/chicago scene/loud-quiet call it whatever you want - but is this stuff 'primarily' what you guys are into?

Not one bit.

I like metal (slayer or mayhem would be prototype bands for my sound) first and foremost. I also love and play jazz, particularly bebop, bop and post-bop (miles davis, art blakey's jazz messengers and wes montgomery would be prototype bands for my preferred sound in that genre). Those are my two favorite genres.

I personally play saxophone, piano, drums and guitar. But guitar has been the mainstay for the past 23 years.

I did very much enjoy the "rave" movement of the early 90's, not so much on a music level as on a hedonistic level. My eldest son was born to Future Sounds of London, for example. My favorites were union jack, orb, orbital, aphex twin, autechre, omicron . . . . I also did a lot of sequencer stuff with rolands, moogs, drum machines etc, and of course, two technics turntables. That's when I would hear tortoise, etc, was in the ambient circles at the mid to end of that decade. I wouldn't call it math rock so much as progressive ambient from my point of view, just look how many times flah used words like "ambient" or "spacey" in his descriptions.

So, no, we don't like your music. We like that you talk about music like a true music lover, in terms of the chills going up and down your spine. In terms of saying your "heart feels like it's going to explode." That's some moving shit; I'm feelin' ya man. No one who dances on sound and thought in this way can be evil; your heart must be dense and radiant. And that's cool. And we like cool, because we like the charade of pretending we're cool, and guys like you really improve the credibility of our act.

As for Flah, he cannot be said to like or dislike anything. He sits like a recessed spider god at the center of a musical pantheon of his own construction. He knows all and sees all, and dispenses hidden drops of musical booty to further the apocalyptic state of the future wherein all the musical chosen are locked in suspended catoplexy of headphone cacoons. But don't worry about that yet, just enjoy the tunes.

Nice to meet ya bro.

 

[Red Bull]

Not one bit.

I like metal (slayer or mayhem would be prototype bands for my sound) first and foremost. I also love and play jazz, particularly bebop, bop and post-bop (miles davis, art blakey's jazz messengers and wes montgomery would be prototype bands for my preferred sound in that genre). Those are my two favorite genres.

I personally play saxophone, piano, drums and guitar. But guitar has been the mainstay for the past 23 years.

I did very much enjoy the "rave" movement of the early 90's, not so much on a music level as on a hedonistic level. My eldest son was born to Future Sounds of London, for example. My favorites were union jack, orb, orbital, aphex twin, autechre, omicron . . . . I also did a lot of sequencer stuff with rolands, moogs, drum machines etc, and of course, two technics turntables. That's when I would hear tortoise, etc, was in the ambient circles at the mid to end of that decade. I wouldn't call it math rock so much as progressive ambient from my point of view, just look how many times flah used words like "ambient" or "spacey" in his descriptions.

So, no, we don't like your music. We like that you talk about music like a true music lover, in terms of the chills going up and down your spine. In terms of saying your "heart feels like it's going to explode." That's some moving shit; I'm feelin' ya man. No one who dances on sound and thought in this way can be evil; your heart must be dense and radiant. And that's cool. And we like cool, because we like the charade of pretending we're cool, and guys like you really improve the credibility of our act.

As for Flah, he cannot be said to like or dislike anything. He sits like a recessed spider god at the center of a musical pantheon of his own construction. He knows all and sees all, and dispenses hidden drops of musical booty to further the apocalyptic state of the future wherein all the musical chosen are locked in suspended catoplexy of headphone cacoons. But don't worry about that yet, just enjoy the tunes.

Nice to meet ya bro.

heh, no way i can add anything to that...

...nice to meet you too, mate!

 

[Red Bull]

Good to know you guys got love for metal. I used to be into metal and while i am not anymore - it would be a lie to say otherwise - it definitely 100% got me to where i am now. In the sense of appreciating plain, old fashioned noise.

But yeah, one day i just suddenly realised that actually, i hated words...and the rest is history. I would say that the only words i like are those that come out of Steve Albini's mouth. Which should probablly be a cause for worry...

 

[Red Bull]

It's 5:00 am here in Dubai so I think I should call it quits but before I do, Flah, here is the word on that second drop:

In essence, my favorites are:

Do Make Say Think - OMG, The bass, the effects, the whole feel. Could be Tortoise's early 'Onions wrapped in Rubber'. Which is a good thing. A very good thing!

Grails - Beautiful, especially the (yeah yeah) but discordant stuff towards the end

Fly Pan Am - loved it! I know this is gonna sound lame cuz half the genre is influenced by them but yeah, very CAN-ish...

Ghosts & Vodka - lovely! (i'm running out of words) No really, little bit UI-ish but more so TRANS-AM, just makes you smile...

Like i said, the favs out of the bunch. The rest was great but perhaps a little too 'nice' or melodic in places/or just felt that the old Tortoise soundscapes were better.

I say a little too melodic because I prefer the Slinty/Mogwai stuff. But I am still listening to The Last Signal and how more melodic can you get? That's my last point - I've realised that I have the two extremes. Yes, the spooky stuff but at the other end, when it just so plain PRETTY (your word) it doesn't matter how 'clean' it sounds.

Will download 'Ellen' soon...

Cheers.



p.s. Zero said i could not possibly be evil. he is right, i am a hater of evil...

 

[Flah]

As for Flah, he cannot be said to like or dislike anything. He sits like a recessed spider god at the center of a musical pantheon of his own construction. He knows all and sees all, and dispenses hidden drops of musical booty to further the apocalyptic state of the future wherein all the musical chosen are locked in suspended catoplexy of headphone cacoons. But don't worry about that yet, just enjoy the tunes.

Hahaha, I need to have this printed up on buisness cards.

K all around when I recharge, this has been a super thread.

 

[Red Bull]

Hahaha, I need to have this printed up on buisness cards.

K all around when I recharge, this has been a super thread.

Heh, you still there bro? Goodnight.


'musical booty', lol...!

 

[Red Bull]

I hope this works. Just thought I should try and contribute something.

Aerial M VIVEA Tour Single: Safeless, Napoleon and Vol de Nuit...

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=04UFWOLVZYHD231DH5HU88SWKF

 

[Flah]

YSI #3: H - P

http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0DODBDT2PL1BX2FX41C4PMB1D1

 

[from zero]

I really like this song from Gregor Samsa.

 

[Nathan]

Do Make Say Think are awesome. Saw them live about a year ago in Guelph. Mogwai are also awesome. Check out Mr. Beast which comes out in 2006. You can find if you download. Some otehr good bands:

Controller Controller - Seen them a few times. Really damn good bass player.

Broken Social Scene - You will NOT regret this download. DOWNLOAD THIS ONE.

Stars - Do a lot of collaborations with BSS.

Apostle of Hustle - Members of BSS

Metric - Getting a lot of recognition right now but damn good canadian band.

Sun Kil Moon - Sort of like an acoustic version of The Album Leaf.

The Mars Volta - I can't get enough of these guys, personally. Sort of a chaotic feel that breaks down into awesome build-ups.

Sparta - Broke up to form The Mars Volta.
At the Drive-In - Broke up to form The MArs Volta with Sparta.

Wintersleep - TRUST ME AND DOWNLOAD THIS ONE.

A Northern Chorus - Not one of my favorites but still very good.

And You Will KNow Us By the Trail of Dead... - DOWNLOAD THESE GUYS. Start with Source Tags & Cods, a song called How Near, How Far.

Bloc Part - AWESOME

Death Cab for Cutie - This stuff is a little more emo-ish but I always find these guys rather relaxing to listen to.

 

[Lumberg]

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