Mods Locking Your Threads

[George Spellwin]

Members,

This idea came to me via digger and SublimeZM. What are your thoughts on changing the forums so that a Mod cannot lock a thread he is participating in?

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[Cutiebaby]

i think it is a good idea..if a mod or admin are in the thread they shouldnt be able to lock it....btw where are my thongs and t shirt?

 

[SoreArms]

Too many times mods get hotheaded about a discussion/argument and lock the thread after geting the last word in.

However, how hard is it going to be for them to simply not post on a thread and lock it, or get a buddy mod to lock it for them?

Maybe you should consider having a more stringent process/guidelines for locking/deleting threads.

 

[chefbone]

Hello, George.
If that were to happen, I think there would be more mod feuds and I'm not entirely sure you want that. If a mod is participating in a thread, a heated one, and other doesn't like it, that mod can shut it down. They'd be steppin' on each others toes.

Sincerely,

 

[wtlftr]

Yes, I agree GS. Locking power should be left to those mods who are only observing and not participating in the thread. That way, if a mods feelings get hurt he/she cannot lock a thread.

 

[Gambino]

Maybe you should consider having a more stringent process/guidelines for locking/deleting threads.

That's the key right here GS...only racist or source post threads should be locked, that really pisses people off, locking their threads...

 

[Cutiebaby]

Too many times mods get hotheaded about a discussion/argument and lock the thread after geting the last word in.

However, how hard is it going to be for them to simply not post on a thread and lock it, or get a buddy mod to lock it for them?

Maybe you should consider having a more stringent process/guidelines for locking/deleting threads.

i agree about the locking proceedure needing to change

 

[Dunk]

locking threads is for pussies.

think about what your actually doing when u lock a thread.

your saying. i dont like what im reading. im gonna lock this thread.

im a pussy.

 

[Spanky11]

if this were to happen, how would mts get the last arrogant word in?

 

[George Spellwin]

i agree about the locking proceedure needing to change

Ok, please let me know how to make it better?

 

[CENTURION44]

sounds like a great Idea...but now you will only get mods locking without any explanation..

Maybe Mods should be limited to the amount of threads they can lock a day....They would be a little more cautious as to what they locked..and let the Plat members take some more resposibility....

 

[SoreArms]

Ok, please let me know how to make it better?

only racist or source post threads should be locked

also, threads that physically threaten people or give out personal info about some one. Everything else should be game.


Don't let them take the controversy out of the most controversial site on the internet.

 

[chefbone]

Karma threads, post whore threads(subjective) and source threads should all be locked. The person who starts the thread should be redded. Anything else should be left to the Mods discretion.

 

[Dunk]

also George. While i have you. anyway you can get rid of a couple of heartbeats around here??

























Angelwound, Foreigngash, and exoticbeefcurtain?

Thanks, Dunk

 

[chefbone]

also George. While i have you. anyway you can get rid of a couple of heartbeats around here??

























Angelwound, Foreigngash, and exoticbeefcurtain?

Thanks, Dunk

Don't forget about fatty turdstick and goldencackmonger!!!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

What about moving threads? I deleted a recent thread cause I posted it in C & C and then it got moved to clubbing and going out. I think plats should be able to post threads with in reason in which ever forum they chose with out a mod moving it.

 

[dahamn]

Ok, please let me know how to make it better?

Maybe you can create some sort of bomb that bombs the thread. If enough people disapprove of the thread or are offended by it the mods can lock it.

 

[SoreArms]

Maybe you can create some sort of bomb that bombs the thread. If enough people disapprove of the thread or are offended by it the mods can lock it.

no way

imagine a pro or anti bush thread, the other side could simply gang up and have it locked. Same for religious threads or anything else of controversy.

 

[Dunk]

What about moving threads? I deleted a recent thread cause I posted it in C & C and then it got moved to clubbing and going out. I think plats should be able to post threads with in reason in which ever forum they chose with out a mod moving it.

or at least let it live in C&C for a while then move it to the said forum like an archive after the topic is dead.

 

[Spartacus]

Ok, please let me know how to make it better?

spend karma hits to unlock
would be mostly david vs goliath
but hammy could give a mod a good run

this karma shit reminds me of my D&D days back in the 70s
amassing large quantities of fantasy gold pieces

 

[spongebob]

Ok, please let me know how to make it better?

your just not going to take the human element out of this by passing legislation like this. so why bother.

what i propose is to eliminate mods altogether in C&C, this place will be a fucking madhouse. excuse my french.

no seriously. let the mods stay but also give plat vets like myself unlocking powers. talk about fooking AWESOME!!@!

or why not have mods fill out a questionaire everytime they wanna lock or deleted or move a thread. something simple that pertains to the individual act of mod nazism.

 

[spongebob]

Maybe you can create some sort of bomb that bombs the thread. If enough people disapprove of the thread or are offended by it the mods can lock it.

george,

i actually think this might be an excellent idea. workable.

maybe not a bomb but a poll on top of the thread put there by a mod. enough people vote and the thread is gone. we the people will have more say in the locking of threads.

nope i take that back maybe the thread lock bombs would be the best. i think it could be worked out. enough bombs and the thread is automautically locked. if it looks as if the feature was abussed a mod can wipe the bombs clean and unlock it. that would be empowering.

 

[dahamn]

no way

imagine a pro or anti bush thread, the other side could simply gang up and have it locked. Same for religious threads or anything else of controversy.

Good point, just a thought. Maybe they could green or red the thread(not an individual) and the majority would decide, maybe just move it.

 

[Gambino]

george,

i actually think this might be an excellent idea. workable.

maybe not a bomb but a poll on top of the thread put there by a mod. enough people vote and the thread is gone. we the people will have more say in the locking of threads.

nope i take that back maybe the thread lock bombs would be the best. i think it could be worked out. enough bombs and the thread is automautically locked. if it looks as if the feature was abussed a mod can wipe the bombs clean and unlock it. that would be empowering.

fuck that then all the whinny-ass liberals will just bomb the shit out of good ol' American threads, so much for controversy...make the rules simple and equal, take out the human element...only lock racist or source threads, everything else goes (minus extreme personal flaming)...plus their is way too many mods, delete a few of them

 

[Whiskey]

I don't think that threads should be delted at all. Locking it is more than sufficient. Even if something hatefull or spitefull is said, leaving it around and locked will just show that persons retardedness and allow others to see what kind of an arse that person has been

Whiskey

 

[spongebob]

fuck that then all the whinny-ass liberals will just bomb the shit out of good ol' American threads, so much for controversy...make the rules simple and equal, take out the human element...only lock racist or source threads, everything else goes (minus extreme personal flaming)...plus their is way too many mods, delete a few of them

no it would take a lot of lock bombs, so that helps eliminate that and makes it where only the worst threads would get locked.

mind you, mods will still have locking powers and also they could unlock a thread they felt was strickly locked unfairly.

it be fun!!!!!

 

[WODIN]

Call it the FONZ rule cuz that lil bitch was locking everything that got him owned.

3.

 

[musclemuscle]

do it

 

[superqt4u2nv]

George I don't really like the idea of them not being able to lock a thread they participate in. The whole point of being a Moderator is making sure things run smooth. If shit gets out of hand what are they to do? Nothing? Or should they not participate? The idea has some serious flaws some member may like it cause they think they will get there way but watch them come crying when it is an all out flame war and they are being attacked. What about late night when only 1 or 2 mods are around?

 

[tuc biscuit]

they just need to learn to separate their personal agendas and emotions from that which is in the best interest of the board, also a lot of locks are totally unecassary, just cos two people are arguing, adds to the spice

 

[gotmilk]

Thread locking is fine the way it is. You get the clowns like Chase152 who should have been locked permanently.

If anything, it's sometimes hard to find a mod to lock source threads fast enough.

 

[jackangel]

that idea is no good. more details to follow on a need-to-know basis.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

they just need to learn to separate their personal agendas and emotions from that which is in the best interest of the board, also a lot of locks are totally unecassary, just cos two people are arguing, adds to the spice

werd....

 

[Spartacus]

thread locking isn't too much abused
moving threads before they have had time "marinate" in C&C kills more good discussion
the latest 1000 view "religion" thread just got moved to the mind,body,spirit forum
where it will die

 

[HumorMe]

Someone lock this thread. It isn't going anywhere.

 

[Raptorex]

the mods remind me of my Boss...he's a control freak.

 

[Spartacus]

if I were a mod and a thread had garnered a thousand views
I'd leave it right the fuck where it is
it's a discussion forum

 

[Spartacus]

right there at the top
"discussion boards"
not put the white sox in the white sox drawer
the black sox in the black sox drawer

btw fuck the red sox

 

[Spartacus]

hey hammy what level mage are you now?
curling's cleric character continues to disappoint

 

[StickFigure]

I think that's a good idea. If a mod has been activley participating in a thread he can't lock it, but if he isn't and he locks it he should be required to post one time as to why he is locking it.

 

[exotic_island_girl]

thread should be only lock only if it pertains Racism, harrasment about another member, posting the same thread over and over again and people should take their personal drama on pms.

 

[Spartacus]

I know what would cure a lot of crap
make mods electable every two years

we can have discussions about discussion boards
when "election day" approaches it would be great fun

index the voting according to karmic power or some shit
fuck yeah let's get started

 

[Spartacus]

yeah lets do away with this "supreme court" noise
make the mods accountable to the constituents

I'm sure an angle can be figured out that would further the "platinum" membership cause

 

[SoreArms]

I'm down with re-electing mods every year or so.

 

[Spartacus]

the thought is in it's infancy
to have an "election" you need options
every couple of years have a group of mods up for reelection
with the low candidate losing mod powers

it doesn't have to be harsh
just accountablity to members

I think there are too many mods anyhow
cull the herd

 

[Sub-Zero]

basically, i think the only way around not letting emotions getting in the wya of locks and arguements, is to have a rule for mods stating that if they are ingaged in an arguement with a member, they are not allowed to lock the thread the arguement takes place in - but rather must post in the mod forum, and have an unbiased co-worker of theirs read it over an ddecide if its lock worthy.

thats my opinion.

thats awsome im finally being recognized for my awsome ideas...do i get something for it?

 

[Sub-Zero]

locking threads is for pussies.

think about what your actually doing when u lock a thread.

your saying. i dont like what im reading. im gonna lock this thread.

im a pussy.

it depends... some things go waaay out of hand.

but IMO, if someone keeps making a fuckload of threads or carrying feuds into other threads, then those extra ones should be locked because it makes things difficult to read, but if an arguement is fixed into one specific topic, i think it should be left alone.

also, as for deleting posts, the only things i feel should be deleted are offensive images, and even so they should be edit away the IMG tags, and a warning placed, so people who want to see it can still click a link and view it.

and as for locking threads taht are SUPER offensive.... (i really hate to bring up radar in this, cause he and i have since worked things out, and hes a really good bro)...

but i think that for example if a mod finds something specifically offensive to themselves and is tempted to lock or delete it, they should post a topic in the mod forum, and have at least 2-3 other mods agree that it is a generally offensive group of words that should be delt with.

in summary, no person is perfect, and assuming one is able to fairly moderate by themselves is essentially taking a position of god. it takes more than 1 man to make a fair decision (example is our government system) - but with that, stuff that george doesnt like should and obviouslly will be deleted, because he is in essence, the god of this site...

 

[Spartacus]

thats my opinion.

thats awsome im finally being recognized for my awsome ideas...do i get something for it?

"elections" would cure much of this
and elections would add to the entertainment value of the forums
I can forecast all manner of shenanigans around such a gala
like "real" politics eh?

 

[Sub-Zero]

"elections" would cure much of this
and elections would add to the entertainment value of the forums
I can forecast all manner of shenanigans around such a gala
like "real" politics eh?

i agree.

vote sublimezm in next weeks election

 

[Spartacus]

i agree.

vote sublimezm in next weeks election

who'se your campaign chairman?
dude has a lot of work ahead of him
or her

we could have mod candidate "party rallys"

 

[George Spellwin]

I know what would cure a lot of crap
make mods electable every two years

we can have discussions about discussion boards
when "election day" approaches it would be great fun

index the voting according to karmic power or some shit
fuck yeah let's get started

That is an interesting idea.

 

[Spartacus]

That is an interesting idea.

I actaully bought a T-shirt long ago
it is a decent design
I want a mug
I sort of collect coffee mugs

 

[Sub-Zero]

I actaully bought a T-shirt long ago
it is a decent design
I want a mug
I sort of collect coffee mugs

i want a coffee mug with george's face on it.

sort of like yoda head mugs, i want a spellwinhead mug!

or u can sell those inflatable bobo dolls u inflate and beat up, but instead it will look like the various mods.

so if im mad at bran, or if i just feel like hitting him, i can inflate him and beat him up..

it should come with a pump that looks like killahbee, since hes had alot of practice withblowing mods

 

[Buddy_Christ]

Mods here lock too many threads and then say "it was a waste of bandwidth" or "it was a pointless thread that was going nowhere." WTF is up with that? Are we on a set agenda around here? Are there certain things we are and are not allowed to discuss? Seriously, let's talk about that. What subjects do you, as the owner Mr. Seek-N-Spell, do NOT want to see us making threads about or doing in threads?

Here's an idea, since YOU own this site. You can make a list of rules of what you deem inappropriate in a thread, such as posting of personal information, source posts, trolling, whatever. Make a list of those rules and post them somewhere on this site. Then there is NO DISPUTE whatsoever about what is allowed to be posted in C&C and what isn't. If someone makes a thread that violates those rules, it gets locked, they get reprimanded. If a moderator continues to lock threads that do not violate those rules, well, they aren't really a good moderator, are they?

There really shouldn't be much that's off limits on a chat board. So YOU, Mr. Hide-and-go-Seek, need to set the rules for what can/can't be done in C&C and we'll all have to stick to it. It's a matter of what you do not want us doing here, end of story.

As far as mods locking a thread and "getting in the last word," that's a crock of BS. It shouldn't happen, period.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Mods here lock too many threads and then say "it was a waste of bandwidth" or "it was a pointless thread that was going nowhere." WTF is up with that? Are we on a set agenda around here? Are there certain things we are and are not allowed to discuss? Seriously, let's talk about that. What subjects do you, as the owner Mr. Seek-N-Spell, do NOT want to see us making threads about or doing in threads?

Here's an idea, since YOU own this site. You can make a list of rules of what you deem inappropriate in a thread, such as posting of personal information, source posts, trolling, whatever. Make a list of those rules and post them somewhere on this site. Then there is NO DISPUTE whatsoever about what is allowed to be posted in C&C and what isn't. If someone makes a thread that violates those rules, it gets locked, they get reprimanded. If a moderator continues to lock threads that do not violate those rules, well, they aren't really a good moderator, are they?

There really shouldn't be much that's off limits on a chat board. So YOU, Mr. Hide-and-go-Seek, need to set the rules for what can/can't be done in C&C and we'll all have to stick to it. It's a matter of what you do not want us doing here, end of story.

As far as mods locking a thread and "getting in the last word," that's a crock of BS. It shouldn't happen, period.

good post.

 

[Spartacus]

Mods here lock too many threads and then say "it was a waste of bandwidth" or "it was a pointless thread that was going nowhere." WTF is up with that? Are we on a set agenda around here? Are there certain things we are and are not allowed to discuss? Seriously, let's talk about that. What subjects do you, as the owner Mr. Seek-N-Spell, do NOT want to see us making threads about or doing in threads?

Here's an idea, since YOU own this site. You can make a list of rules of what you deem inappropriate in a thread, such as posting of personal information, source posts, trolling, whatever. Make a list of those rules and post them somewhere on this site. Then there is NO DISPUTE whatsoever about what is allowed to be posted in C&C and what isn't. If someone makes a thread that violates those rules, it gets locked, they get reprimanded. If a moderator continues to lock threads that do not violate those rules, well, they aren't really a good moderator, are they?

There really shouldn't be much that's off limits on a chat board. So YOU, Mr. Hide-and-go-Seek, need to set the rules for what can/can't be done in C&C and we'll all have to stick to it. It's a matter of what you do not want us doing here, end of story.

As far as mods locking a thread and "getting in the last word," that's a crock of BS. It shouldn't happen, period.

I realize there are "terms of such and such" you agree with before registering with a board
but generally save for the most salient breaches the rules are much like the
speed limit
we know what we can legally do
but the majority always go a little beyond

 

[Buddy_Christ]

Tier 1 Violation
These violations will definitely get you banned without any warnings.
Mods will always be on the lookout for these.


1. Excessive bashing based on race/sex/gender/sexual preferences.
2. Excessive/repeated trolling. Failure to maintain overall good fellowship/camaraderie, AND/OR if you are consistently unpleasant to other members, AND/OR constant negativity.
3. Stickys in respective forums - They may state other temporary or forum specific Tier 1 violations.
4. Registration of more than 1 username without prior permission.
5. Unsolicited Advertisements/Spam
6. Posting naked, partially naked image or videos of any kind of any human being engaged in any form of sexual conduct. This rule was enacted due to the usc18whatever regulations. I hope it never applies to EF.

Tier 2 Violation
These violations will not always get you banned, warnings will be issued publicly the first time, banned thereafter. Multiple instances will definitely get you banned.

1. Postwhoring - Postwhoring is defined as posting short/unnecessary replies multiple times in the same thread AND/OR creating multiple useless threads with multiple useless replies, AND/OR replying to random threads with same/useless replies.
2. Noob bashing
3. Posting not-work-safe content in a thread without warning. Not work safe content is defined as absolutely anything that you may not want your boss or co-worker to see on your monitor. This includes large bold fonts, excessive gore, and other related content. Always put *NWS* before the content, so people at work know not to click on it, regardless of the thread title. Please note that posting naked, partially naked image or videos of any kind of any human being engaged in any form of sexual conduct is a Tier 1 Violation, as stated above. This needs to be enforced here at EF. No shit on that.

4. Avatar and Signatures - Need to be work friendly. Sigs cant be too long. I am not going to limit the number of lines or images, just make sure we dont have to scroll down a lot. Please note that naked, or partially naked images or videos of any human being engaged in any form of sexual conduct is a Tier 1 violation, as stated above.

5. Posting personal information in the forums, even if they are publicly available.
6. Using the board to harass someone or attack other sites, or make prank phone calls.

7. Posting copyrighted content without permisson, or using the site to obtain illegal software/product keys and other warez related content.

Tier 3 Violation
These violations are something that mods generally dont look for, but you will be warned and/or banned if you keep on doing it. Multiple instances will definitely get you banned.


3. Bandwagon threads/replies/posts

This is something that is posted on another site I visit frequently. It's their list of rules and there's no arguing the rules. Violate the rules, recieve a ban. It's also the rules that mods are forced to stick to when it comes to locking and deleting threads.

Maybe EF needs a listing of rules like that. That'd be sufficient.

 

[Spartacus]

This is something that is posted on another site I visit frequently. It's their list of rules and there's no arguing the rules. Violate the rules, recieve a ban. It's also the rules that mods are forced to stick to when it comes to locking and deleting threads.

Maybe EF needs a listing of rules like that. That'd be sufficient.

tier one areas of contention
"excessive"
and "partially naked"
wtf?
no more contest photos eh?

 

[Spartacus]

tier one areas of contention
"excessive"
and "partially naked"
wtf?
no more contest photos eh?

oops "partially naked" involved in any form of "sexual conduct"
lots of latitude there

 

[Buddy_Christ]

tier one areas of contention
"excessive"
and "partially naked"
wtf?
no more contest photos eh?

All I was doing was showing how well laid out the rules are over on OT. Their servers are located stateside, so the USC18-whatever regulations are being sweated over there and we're not allowed to post nudes anymore. It really fucking sucks, beacuse there was one section of the board that was LOADED with pRon. It was awesome.

Avatars are also regulated, they HAVE to be "worksafe" or you'll be told to change it. Failure to change it = ban.

But yeah, that's just an idea for admin of this site to consider - laying out the rules specifically and telling the mods that if it doesn't violate the site rules, then let it go. Last time I checked, I could not find a TOS or site rules anywhere here on EF. If there is a listing, it's hard to fnid and that needs to be changed.

 

[gonelifting]

Well.... as a well known and respected mod here at EF, I work tirelessly to make sure things are running smoothly. I must say that Digger and Sublegal have come up with a good idea. There are flaws in it, so I'm not sure if it will ultimatley work out. Whether it does or not, I am certainly glad the topic has been adressed and it has created an interest in the discussion of this and other topics that need to be dealt with.

I think the fair and resonable discussion we are having outways the actual topic at hand and will create more pathways to further consolidate our efforts into making this place the home we all know and love.

Goerge Spellwin, I thank you kind sir for bringing this to our attention and allowing it to flourish, hopefully into something we all can be happy with, to live in harmony, side by side, as brothers and sisters, in this Iron game of life we love so much.

I need to get back to modding now, please keep up the good work. God bless us all.

 

[perkele]

When life in the internet gets too hard to handle.

 

[Spartacus]

All I was doing was showing how well laid out the rules are over on OT. Their servers are located stateside, so the USC18-whatever regulations are being sweated over there and we're not allowed to post nudes anymore. It really fucking sucks, beacuse there was one section of the board that was LOADED with pRon. It was awesome.

Avatars are also regulated, they HAVE to be "worksafe" or you'll be told to change it. Failure to change it = ban.

But yeah, that's just an idea for admin of this site to consider - laying out the rules specifically and telling the mods that if it doesn't violate the site rules, then let it go. Last time I checked, I could not find a TOS or site rules anywhere here on EF. If there is a listing, it's hard to fnid and that needs to be changed.

here I thought that was EFs terms
how do you find the terms after you have completed the initial registration?
btw I used to go to OT some and recognized you(acute observation powers eh?)
those are weak terms for a couple of the reasons I mentioned
what is "partially naked" and what is "sexual conduct"?

a picture of a guy/girl in a swimsuit kissing fits that
perhaps a pic of a guy in a suit kissing his grandma also in a suit at the beach wouldn't

 

[Buddy_Christ]

here I thought that was EFs terms
how do you find the terms after you have completed the initial registration?
btw I used to go to OT some and recognized you(acute observation powers eh?)
those are weak terms for a couple of the reasons I mentioned
what is "partially naked" and what is "sexual conduct"?

a picture of a guy/girl in a swimsuit kissing fits that
perhaps a pic of a guy in a suit kissing his grandma also in a suit at the beach wouldn't

Yeah, I wanted to know how you knew I was over at OT. You still go over there at all?

You can't find EF's terms unless it's changed in the past few months. OT's terms are posted in a perma-sticky in the "Front Desk."

The naked shit, I dunno, I don't care. All my Masuimi Max avatars are clothed so they can kiss my ass. Some fag hats cried until the mods forced one of our gay members to change his avatar...he had 2 pretty ripped guys standing on the beach, one behind the other, kissing.

But anyway..all it was was a suggestion that EF lay out their rules in a similar fashion, or at least lay them out somewhere.

 

[needtogetaas]

That is an interesting idea.

its the best thing I have ever herd I love it.

 

[Spartacus]

I think the fair and resonable discussion we are having outways the actual topic at hand and will create more pathways to further consolidate our efforts into making this place the home we all know and love.

already speaking as a politician
heh
you sound Hillary

 

[Spartacus]

The naked shit, I dunno, I don't care. All my Masuimi Max avatars are clothed so they can kiss my ass. Some fag hats cried until the mods forced one of our gay members to change his avatar...he had 2 pretty ripped guys standing on the beach, one behind the other, kissing.

excellent e.g.
doubtful the same avatar would have caused a ruckus if it had been guy/girl

 

[Spartacus]

Yeah, I wanted to know how you knew I was over at OT. You still go over there at all?

You can't find EF's terms unless it's changed in the past few months. OT's terms are posted in a perma-sticky in the "Front Desk."

The naked shit, I dunno, I don't care. All my Masuimi Max avatars are clothed so they can kiss my ass. Some fag hats cried until the mods forced one of our gay members to change his avatar...he had 2 pretty ripped guys standing on the beach, one behind the other, kissing.

But anyway..all it was was a suggestion that EF lay out their rules in a similar fashion, or at least lay them out somewhere.

btw I "left" OT because it moved too fast
too many posters and thus everyone may as well just be a number

I learned some stuff over there and there are many intelligent types
but I would log in and site a topic that interested me and see how it had gone 20+ pages that day alone
and much of it crap

so I stick with EF's limited crap and the 2-3 other military history boards that interest me
less crap

 

[Sub-Zero]

When life in the internet gets too hard to handle.

the funniest part, is you probably WOULD cry if you got your thread locked (just judging by your character)


and perk, iv reached my 24hour limit, sorry bor

 

[Spartacus]

the funniest part, is you probably WOULD cry if you got your thread locked (just judging by your character)

not to mention it's kind of obvious he didn't read through the thread before he posted such
hell we are all guilty of that at times

this isn't a "gripe" session
this is a suggestion box

 

[jenscats5]

Mods here lock too many threads and then say "it was a waste of bandwidth" or "it was a pointless thread that was going nowhere." WTF is up with that? Are we on a set agenda around here? Are there certain things we are and are not allowed to discuss? Seriously, let's talk about that. What subjects do you, as the owner Mr. Seek-N-Spell, do NOT want to see us making threads about or doing in threads?

Here's an idea, since YOU own this site. You can make a list of rules of what you deem inappropriate in a thread, such as posting of personal information, source posts, trolling, whatever. Make a list of those rules and post them somewhere on this site. Then there is NO DISPUTE whatsoever about what is allowed to be posted in C&C and what isn't. If someone makes a thread that violates those rules, it gets locked, they get reprimanded. If a moderator continues to lock threads that do not violate those rules, well, they aren't really a good moderator, are they?

There really shouldn't be much that's off limits on a chat board. So YOU, Mr. Hide-and-go-Seek, need to set the rules for what can/can't be done in C&C and we'll all have to stick to it. It's a matter of what you do not want us doing here, end of story.

As far as mods locking a thread and "getting in the last word," that's a crock of BS. It shouldn't happen, period.

A very good suggestion IMO....

And I think the "last word" post on a thread should be by the mod who locked it with the reason why....

 

[Raina]

A very good suggestion IMO....

And I think the "last word" post on a thread should be by the mod who locked it with the reason why....

Agreed.

 

[Spartacus]

A very good suggestion IMO....

And I think the "last word" post on a thread should be by the mod who locked it with the reason why....

"elections" would solve this
a mod doing a decent job that was held accountable would be advised to offer an explanation for thier actions
as I find most mods doing to a great extent now
and I've managed to raise another issue
let's do away with "ghost" mod actions
if a thread is locked,moved,deleted etc. it should be indentified as to who was responsible

 

[Spartacus]

I'm not aiming for "the cows have left the barn" situation in which there are no controls and accepted behaviors in place.
lets try and make it more democratic and less totalitarian

 

[Spartacus]

checks and balances
checks and balances

 

[perkele]

the funniest part, is you probably WOULD cry if you got your thread locked (just judging by your character)

My threads have been locked and moved soooooo many times in the past and I've never whined about it.

 

[Spartacus]

My threads have been locked and moved soooooo many times in the past and I've never whined about it.

I am particularily questioning the moving of a 1000 view thread about the argument concerning creationism vs evolution.
I know well how religious and/or political threads can devolve into flame fests,but this thread was developing well.After the initial "vacous" posts had been made the thread was settling down into decent debate.
Only to be moved to the trailer park "mind,body,spirit" forum whose existence I wasn't even aware of.
That's where threads get moved to die.

 

[perkele]

not to mention it's kind of obvious he didn't read through the thread before he posted such
hell we are all guilty of that at times

this isn't a "gripe" session
this is a suggestion box

lol @ not reading a post about me not reading the whole thread. Well you were right about that one. Anyway, there would not even be this thread if it there weren't a certain members who always cry about their threads being locked or moved. So the pic was dedicated to them.

 

[musclemuscle]

lol @ not reading a post about me not reading the whole thread. Well you were right about that one. Anyway, there would not even be this thread if it there weren't a certain members who always cry about their threads being locked or moved. So the pic was dedicated to them.

it sounds like you are crying about people crying...

just an observation bro

 

[musclemuscle]

it sounds like you are crying about people crying...

just an observation bro

or maybe i am crying about you crying about other people crying

or we could just be having a friendly conversation

 

[perkele]

it sounds like you are crying about people crying...

just an observation bro

Not crying but it sure makes me sad.

 

[musclemuscle]

Not crying but it sure makes me sad.

lol

 

[Spartacus]

lol @ not reading a post about me not reading the whole thread. Well you were right about that one. Anyway, there would not even be this thread if it there weren't a certain members who always cry about their threads being locked or moved. So the pic was dedicated to them.

yes i know about bill and wendy whiner
or is it Doug?

george himself authored the thread and has commented on it as well
he doesn't come around here often

IMO this site "losses" 2-3 dozen established characters a year for trivial reasons
as a business iritating "word-of-mouth" and/or in this case "word -of spread" isn't good for casting a wider net of new business

I wonder if mod behaviors would be the same if they each owned the business
that's not possible to implement,but elections would go a long way towards mimicking such

 

[spongebob]

decisions made in this thread may very well shape the future of EF. choose wisely people. vote sponge for mod!!@!$$$$$$

 

[seizer]

I think a mod should have to write out a statement as to why the want a thread locked or deleted. This way, they wouldnt aimlessly lock and delete threads because they would have to do actual work and a procedure everytime they wanted to do it. This wont put an end to any of it, but it will make mods want to avoid locking shit because of all the hassel. They can pick the right ones to lock.

 

[Spartacus]

I think a mod should have to write out a statement as to why the want a thread locked or deleted. This way, they wouldnt aimlessly lock and delete threads because they would have to do actual work and a procedure everytime they wanted to do it. This wont put an end to any of it, but it will make mods want to avoid locking shit because of all the hassel. They can pick the right ones to lock.

reminds me when I was a child and i questioned my father's decisions
"because I said so"

 

[Spartacus]

reminds me when I was a child and i questioned my father's decisions
"because I said so"

never mind he was usually right
that's not my point

 

[Buddy_Christ]

lol @ not reading a post about me not reading the whole thread. Well you were right about that one. Anyway, there would not even be this thread if it there weren't a certain members who always cry about their threads being locked or moved. So the pic was dedicated to them.

Well let's see for a second here....when threads are getting locked for no reason, what good is that doing for this site? It's not doing one damn good thing, that's for certain. A good debate thread gets locked, well gee, I guess that topic is now taboo, what's next? Oh look, we can have another good debate in here...nope, locked because someone got sand in their pussy.

There's plenty of threads I see that I don't want to get involved in, so I leave the debate in the thread to the people arguing it.

So let's go over this again....sure Perkele, you're a moderator, but if you get into senseless thread locking and deleting, you are only hurting the site you're moderating. Yes, GS needs to get some good solid established rules about what is and what isn't allowed on EF. It doesn't hurt to have an announcement at the top of each forum depicting the general rules for each forum, does it? No, I don't think it does at all, because that lets everyone know right off the bat what is going to get their pee-pee slapped and what they can't get their pee-pee slapped for. It's actually a BONUS to mods, because they can't get shit from members for locking a thread when that thread clearly violated the rules, and they have set guidelines for what is and isn't allowed.

Win/win for everyone, with the exception of a few that are going to bitch about it anyway.

 

[jestros]

Can we get a mod in here?

 

[Spartacus]

Well let's see for a second here....when threads are getting locked for no reason, what good is that doing for this site? It's not doing one damn good thing, that's for certain. A good debate thread gets locked, well gee, I guess that topic is now taboo, what's next? Oh look, we can have another good debate in here...nope, locked because someone got sand in their pussy.

There's plenty of threads I see that I don't want to get involved in, so I leave the debate in the thread to the people arguing it.

So let's go over this again....sure Perkele, you're a moderator, but if you get into senseless thread locking and deleting, you are only hurting the site you're moderating. Yes, GS needs to get some good solid established rules about what is and what isn't allowed on EF. It doesn't hurt to have an announcement at the top of each forum depicting the general rules for each forum, does it? No, I don't think it does at all, because that lets everyone know right off the bat what is going to get their pee-pee slapped and what they can't get their pee-pee slapped for. It's actually a BONUS to mods, because they can't get shit from members for locking a thread when that thread clearly violated the rules, and they have set guidelines for what is and isn't allowed.

Win/win for everyone, with the exception of a few that are going to bitch about it anyway.

too harsh and concrete crak
I vote for a set of rules
policed much like the speed limit
the typical offense goes unnoticed and enforcement only comes into play when egregious and continued breaches occur
hell I believe the EF terms probably outlaw "cursive" language
porn?
well if you notice when signing in that popularity of the anabolic board is closely matched with the "pictures of women" board
anyhow this is largely how it is
but the site is losing established characters and it's the personalities which make the site
I think a 2yr review/election system of the mods would address these issues as well as making the site more entertaining
voting for mod-ship has always been popular
make them serve terms

 

[Buddy_Christ]

too harsh and concrete crak
I vote for a set of rules
policed much like the speed limit
the typical offense goes unnoticed and enforcement only comes into play when egregious and continued breaches occur
hell I believe the EF terms probably outlaw "cursive" language
porn?
well if you notice when signing in that popularity of the anabolic board is closely matched with the "pictures of women" board
anyhow this is largely how it is
but the site is losing established characters and it's the personalities which make the site
I think a 2yr review/election system of the mods would address these issues as well as making the site more entertaining
voting for mod-ship has always been popular
make them serve terms

It's pretty basic stuff, that's all we need.

Or maybe we stay with no rules and really be "the most controversial site on the net." One or the other needs to win in this situation.

 

[Spartacus]

Can we get a mod in here?

interesting that "johnnny on the spot"
move a thread
lock a thread mod
has'nt commented in favor of an election system

 

[big4life]

George, there is a reason why I quit as a mod., and that is the board wasn't fun to me anymore. There are people who post threads just for the sake of getting them locked or seeing if they can push another member's buttons. Then they post a thread asking why it was locked, even if you post the reason in the original thread before locking it. If you were to try to come up with a list of rules for locking threads it would have to be as long as the TOS for it to cover everything.

The one piece of advice I would give is don't limit your mods. ability to do their job, and be active in debates on the board. If you say they can't lock a thread that they're involved in, then why have them as mods? Yes, you have a lot of people complaining about locked threads, but you have a good group of mods., you need to trust them.

Just my .02.

 

[Spartacus]

George, there is a reason why I quit as a mod., and that is the board wasn't fun to me anymore. There are people who post threads just for the sake of getting them locked or seeing if they can push another member's buttons. Then they post a thread asking why it was locked, even if you post the reason in the original thread before locking it. If you were to try to come up with a list of rules for locking threads it would have to be as long as the TOS for it to cover everything.

The one piece of advice I would give is don't limit your mods. ability to do their job, and be active in debates on the board. If you say they can't lock a thread that they're involved in, then why have them as mods? Yes, you have a lot of people complaining about locked threads, but you have a good group of mods., you need to trust them.

Just my .02.

nice to see a counterargument
but asking george to trust his mods once they are elected for life as it currently stands
is weak
and as you did,a mod can resign if the workload is too much
try posting a dozen events or so daily in the bookie forum

 

[big4life]

nice to see a counterargument
but asking george to trust his mods once they are elected for life as it currently stands
is weak
and as you did,a mod can resign if the workload is too much
try posting a dozen events or so daily in the bookie forum

First, you need to understand something, I didn't resign because of the workload, I resigned because some of the member's only reason for being here is to create drama, and I got tired of beating my head against a brick wall in trying to deal with them.

To be completely honest, before George starts to limit his moderators, he needs to get rid of some of these drama makers, whether they are regular members or platinum. The biggest problem right now is that there are some platinum members who think that they are untouchable, and as long as that attitude is in place there will be issues.

 

[Spartacus]

First, you need to understand something, I didn't resign because of the workload, I resigned because some of the member's only reason for being here is to create drama, and I got tired of beating my head against a brick wall in trying to deal with them.

To be completely honest, before George starts to limit his moderators, he needs to get rid of some of these drama makers, whether they are regular members or platinum. The biggest problem right now is that there are some platinum members who think that they are untouchable, and as long as that attitude is in place there will be issues.

yeah you are correct
I didn't wish to single you out and/or have you serve as a "punching bag"
I'll calm the mob
"One thing I learned from my father, I have never forgotten - The mob IS Rome." J. Caesar

 

[Spartacus]

"One thing I learned from my father, I have never forgotten - The mob IS Rome." J. Caesar

 

[Mr. dB]

The one piece of advice I would give is don't limit your mods. ability to do their job, and be active in debates on the board. If you say they can't lock a thread that they're involved in, then why have them as mods?

It could appear to be a conflict of interests to have a moderator lock a thread that he or she is involved in. In the past, moderators who interfered with their own arguments by locking the thread, or editing or deleting the posts of their opponents, were eventually de-modded for abuse of their power (...cough...2thick...cough...fonz...cough).

 

[Sub-Zero]

George, there is a reason why I quit as a mod., and that is the board wasn't fun to me anymore. There are people who post threads just for the sake of getting them locked or seeing if they can push another member's buttons. Then they post a thread asking why it was locked, even if you post the reason in the original thread before locking it. If you were to try to come up with a list of rules for locking threads it would have to be as long as the TOS for it to cover everything.

The one piece of advice I would give is don't limit your mods. ability to do their job, and be active in debates on the board. If you say they can't lock a thread that they're involved in, then why have them as mods? Yes, you have a lot of people complaining about locked threads, but you have a good group of mods., you need to trust them.

Just my .02.

if alot of mods are invovled in a discussion, then they should have a vote and require at least 5 mods wanting to lock it. you cant fire a nuke by urself, many people have to turn the key

ur a good bro, so dont take this the wrong way, but ur speaking from a biased perspective right now. can guarantee you, too, that there is a good chance if u were a mod and found offense to this, u would say something to me, wed end up arguing, and ud lock the thread.

but if we do something different, george would have it so jennscats would have to lock the thread, instead of u, because she doesnt like anybody since shes old and grumpy (lolol jk i love u jens)

 

[Sub-Zero]

First, you need to understand something, I didn't resign because of the workload, I resigned because some of the member's only reason for being here is to create drama, and I got tired of beating my head against a brick wall in trying to deal with them.

To be completely honest, before George starts to limit his moderators, he needs to get rid of some of these drama makers, whether they are regular members or platinum. The biggest problem right now is that there are some platinum members who think that they are untouchable, and as long as that attitude is in place there will be issues.

you let your emotions get in the way, something we are trying to fix.